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ICT / Re: Johnny and Daniel vs The Warriors
« on: April 25, 2019, 11:48:22 PM »
Daniel was only ever badass in part 2.  Parts 1 and 3 have him whining about a bully, only to eek out a technical win at a karate championship at the end.  Johnny was just a bully who picked on smaller prey.  The Warriors cave their skulls in with baseball bats.

No idea about their adult selves.

I think the tam wins somewhere between Strange shoving her into another dimension and Mantis putting her to sleep.

ICT / Re: MCU Captain Marvel vs DCCU Superman
« on: April 25, 2019, 11:41:56 PM »
The weird thing is, he grabbed her and tossed her before the headbutt no-sell.  I kinda wondered if she amped herself before the second go-around.

Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Avengers Endgame - Spoilers
« on: April 25, 2019, 11:33:16 PM »
Damn, why the hate?


I actually teared up twice in this movie and I have never done that for a comicbook movie before.  I kinda expected Tony or Cap to die.  I didn't expect Black Widow's death, though.  That shit hit me.  Tony's death did too, but when Hawkeye and Widow went to Vormir, I was like "Ah man, one of them has to die now".

The opening is probably one of the strongest in the MCU.  I like that when Tony came back, there were no warm hugs for Steve.  He was hurting and we got to see RDJ really pour on the acting.  It was also powerful seeing Thor decapitate Thanos.  He just turns and walks away.  It was a hollow victory and it showed.  It was all very powerful.

Paul Rudd can act!  Obviously, he's good at playing funny characters but the scene where he confronts Tony is probably the first time I've ever seen Paul Rudd in anything close to a serious role (I don't really count the Halloween movie he was in).  He's really good.

Speaking of Hawkeye, he was a beast this time around.  I'm glad they have gradually made him more relevant over the course of the movies.

The cameos!  I heard rumors Ancient One and Crossbones return but I didn't expect Robert Redford, Michelle Pfiefer, Rene Russo, etc.  I always liked Thor's mom so it was nice seeing her.  Also, this is the first time we get to see a TV character appear in a movie, so that's kinda cool.  It's also nice that Tony finally got to reconcile with his father.

Also, there were a ton of easter eggs.  not just to previous movies, but to the comics as well.  There was even a nice nod to Secret Wars.

That final battle was one of the most epic things I have ever seen.  There are a few asterisks below but otherwise, this was amazing.  You got Thor dual-welding Mjolnir and Stormbreaker, Cap with Mjolnir, Giant Man assisting Hulk, all the heroes showing up as the cavalry, etc.

It was a great send off for most of the heroes.  Cap finally got his dance!  Tony finally made the ultimate sacrifice!  I kinda like Thor being in the GOTG.  Hemsworth also apparently wants to do future Thor movies so it might be fun to just see him wandering the cosmos, kicking ass.


Prof. Hulk was wasted.  They seemed to be building up to something big for him but we got short changed.  Hulk apparently stayed gone, Banner decided to just zap himself with gamma rays to keep his strength, and he never got a shot at Thanos.  It seemed every other main character got at least one good hit in at Thanos but Banner never got any payback.  I was expecting a proper merging of Banner and Hulk and at least one good punch to Thanos' ballsack chin.

And yeah, the "Women of Marvel suddenly teleport to the same location in the battle" part was heavy handed.  They could have done that a bit more organically with maybe a montage of the women all doing something at different part of the battle instead of stopping everything so they can all pose together.

All in all, it was one of the greatest comicbook movies ever and a great end to the past decade's worth of Marvel movies.

ICT / Re: movie Fantastic Four vs mcu Hulk
« on: April 25, 2019, 04:39:10 PM »
Yeah, but it was marginal. Because he only looked on enough better to display a shrink that manage but Thor skill easily kept them in the fight. Hulk raged out, and then Thor unlocked his hidden power which > Hulk and there it is. And yeah he overpowered fenris, but he still didn't really beat him down.

Hulk has never been a skilled fighter in any medium.  Thor being more skilled should be expected.  Hulk was still winning and, as far as I’m concerned, appeared to be solidly twice as strong and seemed to get stronger.

You have set a precedent before this of not knowing what this thread is for. It's honestly pretty easy.

When a movie question is bugging me 2 am in the morning, I seriously don't have the inclination to set a precedent.

Ask a question. Get an answer. Pretty simple concept right there.
Bran just has a hard time grasping the concept of this thread for some reason.

I know this is the 2nd time you've gone all petty on me for "not understanding the concept of this thread."

But like I said, I have no intentions of starting a thread just to ask one or two questions.


It’s not petty to expect people to stay on topic. You continually go off topic.  Like if you started a thread about Batman or whatever, and someone keeps coming in to talk about their favorite sandwiches, that would be annoying.  Especially if they reply with “I don’t care if this topic is about Batman, I wanna use this thread to talk about sandwiches”.

ICT / Re: movie Fantastic Four vs mcu Hulk
« on: April 25, 2019, 02:40:18 PM »
Yeah, he looked marginally better in HTH than a Mjolnir-less Thor.

He was blatantly stronger than Thor and his attacks were doing far more damage.  There is nothing marginal about it.  This is in keeping with their first fight in Avengers.

Right, but Fenris was still in the fight. It was a ring-out.

Hulk had to over power him in order to get that win.  Considering Fenris shrugged off attacks from a spaceship and had an entire crowd if Asgardians shitting themselves, that makes it one of Hulk’s more impressive feats.

As it stands, Hulk has had only one solid defeat with no extenuating circumstances.

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Nominations
« on: April 25, 2019, 12:52:23 PM »
Zealot (WildC.A.T.S.) vs. Deathstroke The Terminator

Thing vs. Savage Dragon

Youngblood (90's version) vs. X-Force (90's version)

Batman Beyond vs. Spider-Man 2099

We did Batman Beyond vs Spidey 2099.  I like Thing vs Dragon

ICT / Re: movie Fantastic Four vs mcu Hulk
« on: April 25, 2019, 08:54:47 AM »
After Ultron had been nearly destroy by a tri-blast from Vision, Thor and Iron Man.
Fair enough.

He did alright against a Mjolnir-less Thor.
He was beating Thor into the ground.  Thor was able to unlock his full potential and nail him with a punch.  If that didn't happen, he would have clearly won.

[quote[Fenris fell off a waterfall.[/quote]
After Hulk threw him, yes.

ICT / Re: movie Fantastic Four vs mcu Hulk
« on: April 24, 2019, 11:49:34 PM »
MCU Hulk is a buster who got in a lucky shot on a space worm and has done nothing but lose since.


He beat up Ultron and was winning against Thor in Ragnarok.  He also beat Fenris.

You have set a precedent before this of not knowing what this thread is for. It's honestly pretty easy.

Yeah, I forgot about the last time.  Bran just has a hard time grasping the concept of this thread for some reason.

ICT / Re: Batman vs Wolverine
« on: April 24, 2019, 09:26:38 AM »
But Ennis hates him.

Ennis hates all superheroes except Superman for some reason.


That's not really the function of this thread, though.

Dude, I wasn't gonna make a separate thread juz to ask 2 questions about 1 movie.

Plus the "forgotten & etc" in the title kinda makes this the most apt thread to post in...

Actually I'd really like to see a fixed thread on Movie Trivia, to share & ask...that'd be cool.

This isn't a thread about forgetting certain aspects of media.  It's about media that's been forgotten entirely.

And you are free to make a movie trivia thread.

Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Will Endgame break 3 billion?
« on: April 24, 2019, 08:56:54 AM »
Ready Player One seemed to tick all the right boxes but didn't really leave a significant lasting effect on the overall live action/video game to movie franchise.

And it wasn't actually based on a video game.

Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Will Endgame break 3 billion?
« on: April 23, 2019, 11:03:44 PM »
Detective Pikachu was designed to be a springboard into a multi-film franchise for the Pokemon universe.

Unlike DC/WB, Nintendo chose to learn from Marvel and is approaching this from multiple angles to have a big crossover thread. It's already predicted based on global buzz that it's going to have a bigger opener than Aquaman. If it sucks, it will tank, but the opening is going to be pretty substantial worldwide.

Maybe it's because live action cartoon and video game movies rarely do well but I don't see it being a massive hit.  I don't think it will flop or anything but I don't see it breaking any records or anything.
I can't think of any times it was done this way.

Can't think of any times it was done what way?  Making live action movies based on games or cartoons?  Outside of doing the universe-building thing, is there anything else that makes it more unique?
I can't think of any live action video game movies that were anything like this combination of talent, technology, and brand.

Since you seem to have something in mind, what live action adaptation has you convinced this won't be a big hit?

Video game movies like Mario Bros, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider, etc.  Keep in mind, they made three Tomb Raider movies, a ton of RE movies, and three MK movies.  They can make enough for sequels but that video game curse is alive and well even when the movies have top notch actors and effects.

As for cartoon based movies, there’s GI Joe, Flinstones, etc.  Again, movies that have earned sequels but aren’t exactly considered classics.  I admit, Transformers was based on a cartoon and the franchise made a shit ton of movies even if they were shitty.

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