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ICT / Re: Who is the most skilled person a powerless Thor could beat hth?
« on: September 09, 2017, 11:45:53 PM »
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Captain-America-1968/Issue-449b?id=9731

Is this it? I've never seen the scan of them fighting tbh.

The arc crossed over three comics and there was always a mention/running theme that despite Thor being depowered he was still an A-level hero with his skill which is impressive but not on the same level as stalemating Captain America. Tbh, based on the above issue, if they had fought, I wouldn't be surprised if it was very competitive as he matched Captain America's speed and stamina and was definitely as strong (He deflected a crashing Quinjet from a falling bridge with a single Mjolnir throw somehow in the same arc for example) but that's speculation.

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ICT / Re: Black Sky Elektra vs MCU Cap (Defenders spoilers)
« on: August 22, 2017, 07:14:49 PM »
Captain America wins. As an overall warrior he is so formidable with the shield that he'd imo wipe the floor with the Defenders. And anyone who thinks that wouldn't happen if they fought is fooling themselves. Just the perfect combination of skill, speed and strength. He wasn't even on screen and he was conclusively > Deathlok.

And the idea that Cage is stronger than Cap after Civil War and AoU is idiotic. Did you guys not watch the movie? Stark was holding back but he was formidable in hand to hand against f*cking Iron Man who is more durable and stronger than all the Defenders stacked and way more powerful. It could have been forgiven before Winter Soldier (Although he's clearly just as powerful) but not now. He's not the team go to power house like Luke but he's on the Avengers. He treats armored Special Forces and aliens as casually as Luke treats random thugs.

Even Cages durability? Remember how that Chitauri bullet f*cked him up and how Steve tanked their blasts? The only advantage Cage has is hard durability, that's it.

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It would have been more impressive if he managed to tame it.

Just like Kyle did to the Fear entity in Fear Itself.
Kyle never tamed Parallax.

Anyway, Galactus flat out admits that even he can't breach the shield around earth. Quasar>>>>Galactus.




Tiger god manhandles Logos who was beating the shit out of Galactus and the fifth host of celestials destroy the dark celestial.



Failactus more like it.

Did you not read the dialogue about the tiger god's power only being used for transport to that plane and all else being Panther's superior ability to fight a metaphoric battle?
LMAO. Oh the excuses.

I actually think that it's Ewing doing his own unique spin on how Abstracts fight, and IMO it's done well. Instead of "hur dur energy blasts" and the occasional lip service to "THEY COULD TURN EACH OTHER INTO ANTS" (I'm looking at you, Odin vs Galactus), Marvel's cosmic level fights usually end up....as giant energy blasts. And when you're dealing with stuff like abstracts, it's kinda underwhelming.

Thanos Imperative showed more of the "Abstracts fight on different levels of reality" with the Galactus Engine versus 616 Abstracts (and the death of Aegis and other abstracts).

Ewing continued that trend in The Ultimates, with Lifebringer Galactus versus Order and Chaos, where it was a very abstract/metaphysical battle (even though part of it was represented in punching), and Order and Chaos being able to kill the Living Tribunal.

The final fight with the Panther God reflects that Abstract stuff that Ewing has been building on/off of. Mind you, I feel like none of the other entities (Ego, etc.) actually did anything, and Lifebringer Galactus being unable to penetrate the shielding around Earth is stupid (honestly seems like a plot thing to stop the Ultimates from easily coming back to earth and having Galactus help sort things out).
It really isn't that unique.

And seeing how Logos defeated Lifebringer earlier and made him his slave, Tiger God (a no name deity) trouncing Logos is pitiful for Galactus.

This the first time we have seen the Tiger God's full power and the concepts are in a state of flux.

You're the only idiot who can read this comic and come to the conclusion that the Tiger God being uber means Galactus isn't. One doesn't equal the other and this comic has reinforced that the Tiger God isn't just a random deity. Especially since the Panthers role as King is symbolically very powerful and is part of the reason of their success.

You're really kind of dumb.

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If you switched out Deathstroke for say....I don't know, Green Arrow? That showing would be fine (Aside from the civilian casualties which is stupid for Deathstroke as well) it would be weird but fine. But Deathstroke? That it makes a pretty good  example of a writer twisting characters to fit his narrative.

I don't think I've ever seen Deadshot be that sloppy, much less Deathstroke to the point they tear across an entire city amassing civilian casualties. And Deadshot lasting even a few panels against Deathstroke in h2h is pretty weird to me, almost as weird as Batman easily beating him. With his stats, extended combat fatigue shouldn't even come into play but if his stats were taken into consideration, Floyd Lawton wouldn't be matching him.

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ICT / Re: Saint of Killers vs Deadpool
« on: July 31, 2017, 11:04:15 PM »
I'm sorry but omnipotent is omnipotent. If someone has less power than the other than that person isn't omnipotent.
You've been reading comics for how long and you still think that?

Name two characters that are both omnipotent but one is somehow more omnipotent than the other.

Are all fictional universes equal all of a sudden?

Unless we are talking about pocket ones or ones created by a force within a universe yes. You take the Buffyverse and smash it into the DCU and both are going to take equal damage. The characters within the universe aren't always equal though which is why you have to compare the two characters in context of each other.

What?  Guy come on

Your third sentence sums it all up

Yeah so you can come up with examples of showing SoK isn't as powerful but saying his "universe" isn't as powerful therefore he can't win is a copout.

What I'm saying is One Punch Man wins.

Infinity Gauntlet and Living Tribunal, Eternity and Beyonder, Odin and Celestials etc.

Comics is full of examples that show omnipotence in one Universe by no means equivalent to omnipotence in another or even within one Universe itself.

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Music, Movies, Tv and Books / Re: Comic-Con trailers
« on: July 23, 2017, 04:08:44 PM »
That trailer looked great if it wasn't a Thor: Ragnarok movie. Way too much Hulk and token black female instead of traditional Thor supporting cast.

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ICT / Re: Thor vs Lady Thor
« on: July 22, 2017, 07:03:35 PM »
Choking Jane as he did was impressive but he caught her off-guard and she had the clear advantage over him before his son intervened. If she continued hammering him, she could have beaten him to near-death like Masterson did. And it only lasted a panel before they were teleported to the Sh'iar Gods so I don't see how it is evidence .

There is far more evidence suggesting she is way more powerful than Gladiator from that arc such as how long she lasted against the Destroyer compared to Gladiator, how Gladiator was treated by the Sh'iar Gods in comparison to Jane/Mjolnir, or how Jane/Mjolnir faced the Phoenix when everyone including Gladiator were in the background getting barbecued.


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ICT / Re: Thor vs Lady Thor
« on: July 20, 2017, 09:15:47 PM »
Lady Thor vs. Thor are more or less equals. We've seen them fight, albeit a reserved one. Thor would get the win from experience and overall being the real Thor (Jane will fade soon enough, although it's been a painful few years of SJW) I'd argue that the mother Storm would be an auto win this side of Galactus/Odin (It easily deflected a massive supernova thrown by the combined full power of two pantheon heads clearly way above Herald level) but Thor matched it with his own innate storm powers against the Phoenix so I'm really confused about the relationship. But Aaron has always respected Thor's innate weather powers. The mother Storm allows Jane to operate at the same level that Aaron's Thor operated believably from what I understand.

Also I don't understand how Jane Thor's track record is better than the real Thor's obviously. The average would be better if you compare it to Thor's 50+ years but not compared to Thor under Aaron's own pen.

Thor vs Hulk: Hulks stronger and Thor is more powerful. Nothing's changed. Aaron IIRC had Thor clearly outperform Hulk against Fury (When the whisper happened), Waid had Thor's left over discharge k.o the Hulk and Banner have the strength contest be an eternal debate and now we have this. In Comics care a lot less about consistency and hierarchy today than even 4 years ago so if Thor was ever going to overpowering the shit out of the Hulk it would be during this period with SJW bullshit.

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ICT / Re: Batman vs Iron Fist
« on: June 05, 2017, 04:37:51 PM »
Ya I don't see what that fight proves aside that a crazy out of his mind Iron Fist is less tactical or creative but clearly has more clear cut power than any street.

Anyways, Iron Fist wins hand to hand. I'd give Batman the edge with everything included but Bruce has to play it smart. Nowadays I can totally see Danny using Chi to counter poison tablets, explosive batarangs or even ice pellets. He's been consistently a super natural martial artists from what I've seen and in his stint in the Avengers the Iron Fist was upgraded into one of this uber trump cards that can rock the shit out of a class 50-90.

Under Bendis when Iron Fist used his chi it was like a oh shit. Someone's getting rocked harder than Superman by a homeless Atlantean.

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ICT / Re: Who is stronger, movie Hulk or movie Wonder Woman?
« on: June 05, 2017, 04:30:40 PM »
Why are you bringing up Superman?

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ICT / Re: DCEU Wonder Woman vs MCU Thor (Spoilers)
« on: June 05, 2017, 03:28:41 AM »
Interesting fight. Wonder Woman could fly by the end and deflect lightning but with Mjolnir Thor still has a huge destructive/power edge. Unfortunately movie Thor doesn't have many objective strength feats without the hammer so that's comparable a stat but he's still way more durable than Diana which would trump whatever minor zoom-in super speed she has.

I don't know tbh. This is a pretty tough fight. Diana is skilled and powerful enough to not get into a fist fight/pissing match and do some damage but movie Thor has arguably the best damage soak/durability of the movie-verse and a direct hit from Thor would ruin her day.

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ICT / Re: Who is stronger, movie Hulk or movie Wonder Woman?
« on: June 05, 2017, 03:20:00 AM »
Just watched the movie. A lot better than I thought it would be but Hulk no contest. The two aren't even very comparable imo.

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ICT / Re: Thor VERSUS Battlebeast
« on: May 03, 2017, 10:27:00 AM »
Thor. Stronger, more durable, at least as skilled and while Battle Beast has impressive damage soak, he is rather reckless and Thor's axe can end him with out direct hit.

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ICT / Re: Bane vs Tony Stark at Chess
« on: May 02, 2017, 01:57:00 AM »
Tony.

And Tony is excellent at multi-tasking:



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Hall of Fame / Re: movie Thor vs comicbook Captain America
« on: April 26, 2017, 05:39:15 PM »
Movie Thor isn't above comic Hyde, Hercules or Hulk.

This post is all kinds of terrible.

I didn't know the bar for beating Captain America was that you have to be superior to Hercules or Hulk (Hyde fluctuates significantly and at this point, I would put movie Thor above some Hyde portrayals I've seen).

By that logic, comic Captain America beats MOS Superman as well, but you disagree with that strongly I take it?
Superman isn't a small god from a small world. Continue to cry about it.

Cap is taking 5/10 at minimum against movie Thor.

MOS Superman can beat comic Hercules and Hulk iyo?

Disagree.

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