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ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Jane Thor vs Wonder Woman
« on: March 22, 2017, 12:12:08 AM »
Jane Thor is physically weaker than Gladiator. Diana tears her apart.

Based on?

Probably on him holding her up in the air with one hand while she couldn't break his grip with both of hers.

He grabbed her unexpectedly, while she was confused and held her there for a panel before they were teleported back to the Sh'iar Gods:

That isn't conclusive evidence of any kind of superiority. It may imply an advantage but their individual encounters with the Sh'iar Gods would actually indicate a significant advantage for Jane if not in strength then definitely in overall durability and even more so in power. I hope they have a brief scuffle because if anyone has been keeping up with Aaron's work on Thor, the idea that Thor, even Jane, is not as strong as Gladiator would be a real surprise.

Also, one hit from Mjolnir and Gladiator would be floored again.

ICT / Re: Star Wars: Rebels Kenobi vs Maul
« on: March 21, 2017, 12:50:15 AM »
Darth Vader would own Maul without much problem imo based on everything I've seen and read. He'd have a much better time against Anakin but he'd still get owned at the end there. Kenobi was in a unique and advantageous position to defeat Anakin.

Vader was the John Wick of the galaxy. People were terrified of him, and rightly so. At the end there, even the Emperor started to fear Vader and the Sith his anger and pain had allowed him to turn into despite being more machine than man. He was lethal as hell. He was everything Anakin wasn't: unemotional, calculating and every move had a purpose.

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Jane Thor vs Wonder Woman
« on: March 21, 2017, 12:47:31 AM »
Jane Thor is physically weaker than Gladiator. Diana tears her apart.

Based on?

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Jane Thor vs Wonder Woman
« on: March 20, 2017, 11:14:41 PM »
Jane Thor wins. Way more powerful imo and has an edge in every stat except maybe speed.


Jane looking good and profiting on Thor's rep. Loki being Loki.

Gladiator vs. The Destroyer goes about as well as you could expect.

ICT / Re: Ms. Marvel vs Hel's Valkyrie
« on: March 14, 2017, 08:53:13 PM »
Dani completely countered and overpowered Ares when it was pretty clear none of the X-men on the island including guys like Colossus stood any kind of chance.

ICT / Re: Ares (Marvel) vs Warriors Three
« on: March 14, 2017, 08:52:15 PM »
Area got a push at the end, but so did the Warriors Three, particularly Volatagg, at least by Bendis' standards.

I could see Thor doing the Jane feat but she seems to be more constant at least for now. It's a good feat, but I think he's had some similar crazy high end stuff. Even Hickman for example had Hyperion redirect a planet and then Thor easily like hammered into place. This is above that, but not out of the realm of elite top tiers imo.

This particular feat is far beyond that to a ridiculous degree. Keep in mind, Hickman had a device channeling a portion of the sun's power to destroy a celestial as well as destroy a massive armada that included Gladiator. Thor does have some extremely high end showings that may even go beyond this but isn't that kind of the point? We have to find extreme high end feats from 40-some years to compare?

The real comparisons come in with how Aaron has both in the past and currently depicted other characters of a similar power level.

Thor's feats in God of Thunder are a good comparison. The God Bomb feat for example outstrips this significantly and Thor's fight against Gorr is an even better showing imo than Jane's fight against Odin.

The hammer has come more alive for Jane but that's probably to balance her out being a complete novice and doesn't mean she'd win in a fight.

Top Tier with her high end Mjolnir storm feats having a better in story reason. Thor would pray to Odin in that scene as he summons a huge storm but it would be written off as another high end feat which I treat this as.

I'm not really sure how this mother storm works though. Odin had Mjolnir forged, empowered it with the Odin Force and enchanted it so where does the Mother Storm fit into all this? Or Thor's own Thunder God powers? Or the fact that Thor and Mjolnir have a very unique bond and even parts of his soul reside within the hammer since JMS? I think it's a bit of a stupid ass concept that complicates an already difficult relationship. It should at least reside within the hammer and act as the scapegoat for Odin losing complete control over his own weapon but that's about it.

Like does every Thor feat using Mjolnir's storm powers now have a caveat to it? Where does the Storm end and where does the power of Thor begin? Or the Odin Force? And how's does Jane even know of the Mother Storm?

For the record, I don't think the Mother Storm has had any effect on Janes fight against Odin outside of him not instantly removing her connection to the hammer. The fight was rather brief and some generic blasting around, albeit on a cosmic scale.

Logan was way better.

If only Thor can do that in combat tho amirite?  And why doesn't she do that all the time? And why can't old Thor do that? Bullshit throw away feat that's meaningless cuz she'll never do that in a fight.

Not true, Thor, especially Jane have used high level speed in combat very often under Aaron:

ICT / Re: Was Nefaria in the past really more powerfull than Thor?
« on: February 19, 2017, 08:42:56 AM »
He was intended to be stronger yes, that was kind of the point of the story. Realistically speaking, he'd have to be much stronger than Thor to stop that hammer strike like he did imo, but I think the intention was that he was only slightly stronger.

Like if they went into a slugfest and Thor put the hammer down, it'd go back to back for a very long time, and I don't know who'd be the favorite because Thor could very well win purely on superior mental fortitude and toughness despite Nefaria having the strength edge. They don't write stories like that anymore however.

ICT / Re: Kurse vs WWHulk.
« on: February 14, 2017, 11:03:22 AM »
Oops sorry, I mistook this arc for another one. It was the Destroyers power up not Thor's weakness that was constantly referenced.

He was weakened in the sense that his full godhood wasn't restored in Thor #36 by Odin's emissary. This is why he was covered in welts/burns, remnants of his injury from his form as Jake Olsen; any injuries sustained in his mortal form heal when transferred over to his Asgardian form. Odin restored him personally in #38 in the final confrontation. Another notable point is that Mjolnir was out of his hand for a noticeable time and as seen as far back as #10, the process isn't an exchange of places but a gradual transformation back to mortal after 60 seconds that ends with a magic zap of a costume/visual change. Unlike Donald Blake, there was almost a symbiotic relationship where Thor/Jake Olsen could exist in hybrid form due to different extenuating circumstances fucking with the enchantment.

But the biggest notable factor is that the Destroyer was more powerful than usual as the Designate was inhabiting the Armor, a potential Skyfather/Cosmic level entity in her own right. Plus Thor was specifically not fighting back to his full capabilities. The Armor was pounding the shit out of the Odinson for the better part of an issue and he suffered a broken arm and somehow a broken jaw (Not sure when that occurs as Thor doesn't suffer that damage but like I said, there was a lot of weirdness with Jake Olsen).

With this all in mind (Mjolnir being out of his grasp, arguably not being at full god hood and the Destroyer being more powerful than ever) I have no clue why anyone would bring this up any a thread without a serious asterisk. In fact, it's a ridiculous showing for his damage soak.

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