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ICT / Re: MCU Iron Man vs Ferrigno Hulk
« on: October 06, 2018, 05:16:39 PM »
Make it Iron Man Mark I and Ferrigno Hulk has a chance at least.


Maybe the Mark 45 armor as it was the one that kept malfunctioning and breaking apart?

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Majin Buu vs One Punch Man
« on: October 06, 2018, 04:19:58 PM »
As an outsider looking in I see a lot of dismissing of Buu on principle and very little facts and feats to support that.


That's the official databook by the OPM creator One where it turns out Saitama actually deflected a star busting blast casually which by DBZ standards puts him above Super Perfect Cell's star busting kamehameha.

If we want to go further into this Saitama casually threw a rock out the gravity well of something stated akin to a black hole. Similar in DBS it takes super saiyan blue Goku using kaioken to break out something stated akin to the gravity well of a blak hole.

Needless to say this shows that Saitama vastly exceeds Fat Buu by Dragon Ball's own standards would it not?

The evidence that Saitama wins or is even comeptitive is summed up in this, "...he's a gag character." So is Popeye the Sailor Man, can Popeye beat Majin Buu?

Yes, Popeye has destroyed every single star in the nite sky with the wave of his hand, blown out stars with his breath, has moved entire planeys physically, and warped reality based entirely off of gag power.

ICT / Re: DC OFFICIAL Magic Users ranked LIST
« on: October 04, 2018, 02:50:37 PM »
Can't read, you got a better scan of the whole thing?

ICT / Re: Battle of the Week: Majin Buu vs One Punch Man
« on: October 03, 2018, 10:16:32 PM »
They should be, but they're not.

Exactly, base Vegeta punked SS3 Gotenks > fat buu, yet the stronger super saiyan Vegeta during thay universe 6 tournament couldn't even budge 1,000 tons in mid battle (pretty much shows the 40 tons for base Goku wasn't a mistake) which shows the dbz characters as all powerful characters.

To make it worst Arale (gag character) stomped the db super Vegeta due to being a gag character (which is what Saitama is) so all in all Saitama should easily beat Fat Buu's ass.

What planetary feats does Saitama have?

Being vastly beyond SS3 Goku's (Battle of Gods) punch that destroyed some of King Kai's tiny planetoid for one.

ICT / Re: Akuma VS Sebastian Shaw
« on: September 17, 2018, 05:02:37 PM »
It’s not Akuma!

Gouki, Akuma, both mean the same thing (demon, orge, devil, etc).

ICT / Re: MCU Hulk vs Cullen family.
« on: September 12, 2018, 08:30:09 PM »
The Hulk is at least bare minimum 1,000 times stronger than any physical displayed sttength feat by the cullen clan and 100x their strength level at worst. That's too massive of a strength gap to ignore, high level speed is nice but is utimately worthless without the strength behind it to put it to good use.

Their only chance here is esoteric mental/empathy abilities which they got in the bag, anything else is not worth discussing.

Hall of Fame / Re: Can Spiderman tank a nuke?
« on: September 01, 2018, 04:42:53 PM »
That said, these are comics and I wouldnt be happy to see Spidey or Cap soaking bullets.

Would that make Spidey in your eyes too powerful if he was shrugging off bullets and jumping 1/3rd a mile above skyscrapers?

Hall of Fame / Re: Can Spiderman tank a nuke?
« on: August 31, 2018, 05:41:46 PM »
So it's more that you're overanalyzing comics vs reality than anything that has actually taken place in the books?

No, what I'm stating is that his durability does not accurately match his actual shown and stated super strength because "comics yo", that's different.

Hall of Fame / Re: Can Spiderman tank a nuke?
« on: August 31, 2018, 04:46:52 PM »
That doesn't make any sense and isn't supported by 50 years of appearances. He doesn't have an exoskeleton or the kind of skin you're describing.

It makes perfect sense, you're just not keeping up :P

I'm fully aware the way Spidey is portrayed in the comics doesn't match what he would actually be capable of, I'm not contesting that, what I am saying is that his toughness is realistically inconsistent or paradoxical to what it shoild actually be.

Like him technically being capable of jumping over 1/7th of a mile, but no writer actually protrays him anywhere near that level.

A 9mm caliber bullet is 1/10th the surface area of a human fist per square inch, yet Spidey is pierced through these same bullets no different than any normal human being which suggests his skin, muscles, and tendons are identical across his entire body to normals humans which makes zero sense.

That suggests the same force spreaded out in a human fist would do serious damage to him which is only 1,387.071 lbs in force, yet Spiderman has endured forceds10-20 times (many levels passed the threshold zone) that with minor to no injuries.

In order for Spidey to punch through, shatter or bend sturdy material like iron/steel with his bare hands his flesh would have to have similar yield, tensile, yield, and Young's modulus to it or higher, otherwise he would end up completely rupturing his flesh on contact.

Hall of Fame / Re: Can Spiderman tank a nuke?
« on: August 31, 2018, 01:38:48 PM »
I can understand where Upper Krust is coming from, comparing Spidey's toughness to the minimum range of Stainless steel's compressive, impact, tensile, and yield would exceed all of it collectively making him funxtionally bulley proof.

That's what should happen, but unfortunately that's not how comics works or portrays it in Spidey's case who's flesh seems no more durable to tear and wear than a normal human when it comes to slice/pierce damage.

ICT / Re: Best fictional (live action) punchers/punches
« on: August 28, 2018, 05:56:34 PM »
Jingle All The Way

ICT / Re: MCU Punisher vs Hobbs (Fast and Furious franchise)
« on: August 28, 2018, 12:25:29 PM »
The problem with your argument is that we go by feats, and as exagerrated as that level of strength would be, in the films it's not shown that way. They're boxers, boxing in the ring. Sure Drago killed Apollo, but people have died in the ring in real life. We go by feats and what's shown.

Drago's 2150 psi punching power is shown and stated on screen which is quantified (not fan-calculated) for the audience, not something I made up. It not being portrayed to what you think it should be is nitpicking since that means a huge chunks of characters are a lot weaker now since they don't realistically show the actual effects of their power levels.

Case in point, Reeves Superman is not Moon moving, tectonic plate shifting, planet reversing rotation strong since he demonstrated nothing of that nature during his fights for instance.

Hall of Fame / Re: Going by "average showings" Thor is barely a mid-tier
« on: August 25, 2018, 03:02:07 PM »
So you have exactly two low showings for Thor and you're presenting that as average.  I'm not sure you know what average means.

ICT / Re: MCU Punisher vs Hobbs (Fast and Furious franchise)
« on: August 25, 2018, 03:01:34 PM »
PSI is often a term misused in fiction, you don’t have to actually calculate it for surface area.

Boxers on fight science have punched with 1200 psi

No doubt, however, in the Rocky-verse (at least during the fourth movie) the specifically use the term pounds per square inch for area in pressure, not force.

Boxers in real life are measured in pound-force (not psi) which is in newtons. Compared to the average heavyweight in the Rocky-verse they still punch 2.1-2.3 times that of their real life counterpart.

Everyone in the Rocky-verse is exaggerated, comes with the territory for fictional action type live-action characters like this.

ICT / Re: MCU Punisher vs Hobbs (Fast and Furious franchise)
« on: August 25, 2018, 06:50:03 AM »
Drago was only about twice a heavyweight boxer.

Hobbs ignores shotgun rubber bullets, one arm lifts other men, breaks handcuffs, shatters concrete columns etc.

Drago's punch were 2,150 pounds per square inch, that translates to 8,600 lbs (4.3 tons) to the surface area of 4 square inches (area of human fist roughly). Like I said before, even the most elite real-life heavyweight boxer are measured at best 1/7th to that, 1/6th with adrenaline rush/retard strength being generous. Drago is blatantly super human (Even noted in-universe as such for having abnormal freakish strength), more so than Hobbs.

I mean picture this, Drago's strength is the equivalent of uppercutting a grown man weighing 91 kg 140.8 feet into the air. For visual reference that's around the top of the FRF Tower (http://frf.usace.army.mil/pics/tower.jpg) standing at height of 141 feet. Hobbs is cartoonish sure, but he ain't that damn ridiculous.

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