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ICT / Re: Darth Vader vs World War Z
« on: July 13, 2017, 01:38:34 PM »
Movie Vader gets overwhelmed, canon comic Disney Vader wrecks shop.

ICT / Re: Guardians of the Galaxy vs Darth Vader
« on: June 28, 2017, 09:53:59 PM »
That's why the EU bugs me.  They base their stories around the original movies where Force users are pretty much street level or barely mid-tier, then they just have them do crazy powerful feats.  When Return of the Jedi claims Luke Skywalker is one of the most powerful Jedi, yet he can be menaced by a big monster in Jaba the Hutt's palace, then you have the EU where random no-name Jedi can catch Star Destroyers, it looks ridiculous.

I agree, remember the animated Clone Wars by the guy whi did Dexter's lab had most the Jedi in pure beast mode, Mace Windu and Yoda were off the charts, so was Grievous to the point I was very disappointed in his appearance in Episode 3, I was like whi the fuck is joker? Is it a different model?

This was back when the concept of continuity/canon was vague to me so I didn't understand the incosnsitencies in the varying levels of depictions between the diffetent medias.

I wished the movies matched the EU, basically the stuff you see Galen Marek do in the Force Unleashed games should be standard level for most Jedi, its kind I of what I hope to see in Episode 8 and 9.

ICT / Re: Wolverine vs Galen Marek
« on: June 28, 2017, 09:28:58 PM »
Very bad mismatch, Marek stomps hard.

ICT / Re: Golden Frieza vs DC/Marvel Earth
« on: June 21, 2017, 04:20:16 PM »
OP seems to have him showing up randomly with the intent to kill everyone. He doesn't know anyone here. Have any personal grudges. He has no reason to grandstand and fuck around. And he has shown he is very capable of immediately deciding to kill everyone and everything around him.

So yeah, either he immediately blows up the world. Or he fucks up a few heroes who show up, and then he blows up the world. At this point Golden Freeza is evenly matched with the most powerful version of SSB Goku. And he just manipulated the same Destruction energy the Gods have used to instantly destroy everything in the series so far. He caught it in his hands and manipulated it without even knowing what it was.

Its in Freeza's character to fuck around massively though. He had already planned to destroy Vegeta to get rid of the Saiyans, on Namek the DBs were gone, but he still fucked around a long time against characters he could instant one-shot killed because he has a psycho-nut he needs to get off, for fuck sakes he does the same thing against the other universe assassins and plainly states as such in the latest episode. The problem with DBZ is they that have no concernable or shit resistance to anything other than brute force/energy blasting. We got tones of characters on either Earth that can do more than blast shit. Superman's HV alone would oneshot any DB character that's not an Angel/ GoD/Grand Priest/Zen-oh.

The rest of the characters have shit resistance against extreme temperatures (Hot or cold so Iceman or Human Torch solo), phasing (vision/Kitty Pyrde), molecular/atomic manipulation, transmutation, telepathy, or any other hax ability these character possess on either Earth.

ICT / Re: Golden Frieza vs DC/Marvel Earth
« on: June 21, 2017, 10:29:28 AM »
Frieza is universe level, barring some major upgrades or serious prep he should win.

Dragon ball got a major upgrade with DBS.
While simultaneously getting a major downgrade

A planet blowing up is still considered instant death for the highest level Z fighters, and various other nonsense that that show has been churning out

This, apparenently you can take out Goku with tear gas and a grenade if you catch him off guard (and he's always off guard for no fucking reason). During the U6 tournament SSJ Vegeta got fodderized by 1,000 tons (in the middle of combat no less, lol) keep in mind normal non-SSJ Goku chumped Freeza (non-golden) back during the RoF Saga.

Either Earth fucks up GF severely, dbs made everyone almighty glass canons.

ICT / Re: Listing outright superhuman feats action heroes have done
« on: June 11, 2017, 09:53:41 PM »
So wait; out of the Expendables movies is there a single good feat to be used?

In raw strength?  I don't remember any.

All I remember is Terry Crews' character tossing the head of a missile or something a good 50 meters thtough the air.

These guys are norhing like Ken has faced. They deal with beings whose abilities make Ken look like a 5 year old trying to fight a Kick Boxer.

Hokuto Shinken is capable of a myriad of things that most of these beings are incapable of doing.

That being said, although most of these individuals are more powerful than any opponent Kenshiro is accustomed to dealing with,
that's besides the point. This thread states that they stand there and **let** Kenshiro unload upon them.

Which means they'll die.
You moron. No it does not. If you think Diana can take repeated blows from Fucking Ares or Hades or Superman can take the Omegas and some bit rate guy is going to kill them, you are stupid. He does not even have the feats to suggest he can hurt them until he hurts planet busters.

Hokuto Shinken is not really power level based, its not Ken's strength destroying Diana, its Diana's own strength destroying her.

ICT / Re: Who's stronger DCcu Superman or Hancock?
« on: June 08, 2017, 05:56:27 PM »
Superman over powered the world gravity machine and survived a nuclear blast point blank. Hr definitely moved a techtonic plate which is LESS than the WORLD gravity machine.

The nuke was a modern intercontinental ballistic missile equipped w/ a W87 nuclear warhead. Modern land-based ICBMs with a W87 which have a yield up to 475 kilotons. The amount of energy required to move a tectonic plate is several orders of magnitude above that which contradicts the feats we see on screen in BvS. As for the topic its hard to say, MoS Clark was seemingly KOed when Nam-Ek threw a single train cart at him, while Hancock no-sell the entire train. Doing a little nerd math a typical train like that would impart enough force equal to near 2e+9 joules worth of energy behind it and Hancock casually stopped it instantly on a dime meaning he's way above that level.

To put that into numbers for the common man to understand Hancock instantly stopped and shrugged off the equivalent of being hit with over 700k tons of force. Clark dragged a cargo ship that looks like it can be anywhere from 10k-40k when trying to match it up to a real world ship. The drag force alone DCEU Clark has to overcome is no doubt impressive, but it's still 1 order of magnitude below Hancock's casual freight train feat so as far as on-screen quantifiable feats are concerned Hancock still has DCEU Supes beat, how Hancock would fair against BvS Doomsday, I have no idea how to even begin to compare them.

ICT / Re: tv Supergirl vs movie Wonder Woman
« on: June 06, 2017, 03:20:29 PM »
Physically she was, sure. WW's greatest weapon is her warrior ability. It's how she won. If it was strsight up slugging or measuring stats Supergirl is more powerful

I would say far stronger comparing just stats.

ICT / Re: tv Supergirl vs movie Wonder Woman
« on: June 05, 2017, 08:22:31 PM »
Something tells me CW Supergirl.

Damn; about of a ton of force right to the family jewels?

Hell; even the tiny man mooks managed to take an impact at around a ton of force and survive......

These action science bits are really making me reconsider just how tough all the people in action films are, not just the heroes and main bad dudes.

Yeah...Movie action humans are severals levels above their real life counterparts. Just look at Cobbs from f&f series, gets blown 20 stories out of a building while carrying an adult woman and totals the roof of a car completely and only suffers damage ti gis arm. A real kife human would be ddad and vloid everywhere on impact.

ICT / Re: Catman vs. Tigra (Thundercats)
« on: May 23, 2017, 06:14:20 PM »
Catman wins and fucks the shit out of Cheetara

This, lol.

Damn, thats kinda sad.

Yeah...felt the same way when I found out sometime in the mid 2000s.

ICT / Re: Spider-Man vs. the cast of Smash Bros.
« on: May 21, 2017, 03:14:34 AM »
wait a second, are we going only by SB's portrayal of the characters or their portrayals from their own world/home system? If the later Spidey gets rocked very hard, if the former its more doable and we can work something out.

Does Myra come with the Family Matters' setting?

You bet she does, no one gets left out in this topic.

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