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ICT / Re: DCAU Superman vs Nappa
« on: April 14, 2018, 06:44:48 PM »
Depends on who strikes first, if Nappa strikes with any kind of ki projectile then Superman is toasted, if Superman connects with any heat vision or physical punch then Nappa is toasted.

ICT / Re: Monica Rambeau vs Aquaman
« on: April 10, 2018, 09:03:19 AM »

ICT / Re: All Street Fighter Characters VS Juggernaut and Black Tom
« on: April 09, 2018, 11:48:38 AM »
I'm drawing a blank but which SF characters has the necessary psychic powers to adversely affect Juggernaut? Also, to be honest Juggernaut is more than strong enough to oneshot any SF character in one blow, a hundred ants are still ants after all.

ICT / Re: Naruto vs Aizen
« on: April 05, 2018, 08:14:09 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Bleach top tiers vastly superior to Naruto top tiers on average?

ICT / Re: Has cw flash pass fox's quicksilver in speed
« on: March 20, 2018, 10:41:04 AM »
Even before the nuke feat he already did so with the 3 picoseconds feat from earlier in season 4. CW Flash is faster than Fox's f QS, the only problem now is that Barry is fully like his comic counterpart in that he will be (more so than before) hit with the stupid stick so it doesn't matter.

ICT / Re: Superman vs Marvel Zeus
« on: March 16, 2018, 01:49:21 PM »
Battleboards should not limit your option when other depictions are shown.
If the character with 1000 power sets is debated where the central usage is punching against the Hulk then this means whoever is against Hulk has already lost the battle before it even begun.
Now if all you have is Zeus is firing blasts like a retard and slugging then against a guy like Superman he gets wrecked.

There are different opinions as to what the purpose of a battle board debate is. IMO the purpose is to increase our understanding of the characters as they are typically written, and to estimate fight results based on that understanding.

I debate characters fighting the way writers tend to show them fight.

I have to wonder, after a certain point don't feats become irrelevant? I ask this since going by feats Red Son Superman is leaps and bounds beyond The Dark Knight Returns Superman, yet in Arena these two dofferent characters were depicted more or less on oar with each other.

Nu52 Superman has the Eaeth benching feat compared to All-star Superman that has the under 3x the moons mass benching feat. If Nu52 and AS Superman were to face each other would one of them be depicted vastly above the other or similar to Arena's take or Golden Age Superman = New Earth Superman (regardless of feats) during Infinite Crisis?

Hell, according to feats you would think New Earth Superman > Kingdom Come Superman, yet when they actually met KC Superman was depicted much stronger than New Earth Superman.

ICT / Re: Z-Fighters vs The Incredibles
« on: March 10, 2018, 07:54:13 PM »
Would Violets force-fields help in this match. Like blocking the attacks of the Z-Fighters.

About as much as my umbrella can block a nuclear warhead.

ICT / Re: Fantastic Four vs Indominus rex
« on: March 06, 2018, 12:21:04 AM »
What a friggin mismatch, what Shuruku and Jack already said.

ICT / Re: Viltrumite Tiers in "Invincible"?
« on: March 05, 2018, 01:07:19 AM »
Kirkman I think is kinda going for a more "realistic" thing

in the real world, people can injure each other pretty badly despite big strength gaps (biting makes this more obvious etc.) but in Marvel/DC, much of the fighting between mid-tiers and top-tiers is fairly bloodless; yea characters go "that hurt" or get knocked out/about but stuff like broken arms/ribs is fairly uncommon even though two characters are close-ish in strength

Kirkman seems to take that to the next level-super people can do super damage to each other, which is pretty much the opposite take

I'm going to have to disagree with you there mate, Kirkman does the exact opposite, in fact, his characters feel closer to low tier super power characters where the durability doesn't match anywhere near their super strength. It seems like  much weaker characters can deal minor to moderate damage to much stronger characters (think The Matrix power levels where conventional weaporny can still kill super Neo and Super Smith if caught off guard or not dodged accordingly).

Marvel/DC are actually pretty realistic since when you reach a certain high level your strength and durability are about equally matched and it takes a while for near equal charactets to wear each other down or deal significant damage to each other such as classic DBZ, YYH, Bleach, Toriko, S-cry-ed, and etc.

Kirkman is in that weird Hokuto No ken, Saint Seiya, Mortal Kombat, Naruto area where lower tier stuff can still damage higher tier characters. Kirkman's characters feel like their strength levels are not balanced and are far higher than their durability if that makes any sense to you.

ICT / Re: Can Moondragon breathe in space?
« on: March 01, 2018, 02:12:12 PM »
“Breathing in space”=survive unaided

There's nothing to breath though...

It's a figure of speech. One that's actually been used in comics IIRC.

I know, its a dumb phrase that irks me from time to time.

ICT / Re: Can Moondragon breathe in space?
« on: March 01, 2018, 11:56:31 AM »
“Breathing in space”=survive unaided

There's nothing to breath though...

ICT / Re: Can Moondragon breathe in space?
« on: February 28, 2018, 01:09:02 PM »
No, she can't and neither can anyone else for that matter since there is nothing to breathe in a vacuum of space to begin with, what I believe you are asking is if she can survive for prolong periods of time unaided in space.

ICT / Re: Who's more powerful Superman or Hal?
« on: February 27, 2018, 11:27:56 AM »
Superman, why is this even a question?

but based on what statements/showings? there's only one instance so far and that was posted by abdi. if it's shown consistently then sure

There's the nu52 instance was Supes clowns the shit out of Hal and recently when Hal was under the illusion he was fighting Parallax possessed Supes Clark decked his ass one good time and kncoked him on his ass and out the illusion, gave him some lip service, but ultimately Clark loomed superior of the two.

ICT / Re: Who's more powerful Superman or Hal?
« on: February 26, 2018, 07:18:25 PM »
Superman, why is this even a question?

ICT / TX (T3) vs T-3000 (TG)
« on: February 22, 2018, 03:57:26 PM »
Which terminator comes out on top?

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