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Title: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on June 22, 2015, 01:28:20 AM
http://readms.com/r/dragon_ball_super/001/2831/1

takes place before/during battle of gods. hopefully we get more confirmation goku and vegeta were the best before ssj god.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on June 22, 2015, 01:37:50 AM
Goku is still the worst dad ever. I'm surprised Picolo hasn't kidnapped Goten, ie Gohan v.2.
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Post by: Thanos6 on June 22, 2015, 06:30:33 AM
That or that Bulma hasn't basically abducted him either. (He's practically part of her family anyway)
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on June 22, 2015, 08:27:39 PM
Goku is still the worst dad ever. I'm surprised Picolo hasn't kidnapped Goten, ie Gohan v.2.
Or the best Dad ever, considering he, you know, saved the world.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: AP on June 23, 2015, 12:56:09 AM
The two are not mutually exclusive.

Goku is a terrible father despite saving the planet.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on July 12, 2015, 04:38:28 PM
dragon ball super anime spoilers




2 episodes in and vegeta confirmed goku is the best AGAIN and that he himself is 2nd best. so gohan must be 4th and gotenks 3rd lol next episode looks like its starting at the beginning of battle of gods already.

"After defeating Majin Buu, he became the undisputed number one in the universe. But even now he keeps training."

"Kakarot! I've accepted the fact that you are the strongest Saiyan. But even so, Kakarot. I have no interest in being second best/number two! One day I will surpass you! No... I will surpass everyone in the universe!"
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Post by: BillyRunsThingsSon on July 12, 2015, 06:34:13 PM
Goku runs things son as I've been saying FOR YEARS.  Do you remember when ABSOLUTE IDIOTS used to SWEAR that Gohan > Goku after the Buu saga?  I remember that.  Idiots can't melt steel beams right Neo? 
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Post by: Not BAMF on July 12, 2015, 07:57:50 PM
I like how the Z fighters shrug off planet-destroying blasts, but Goten was "in danger" from the tractor veering off a cliff.

I miss DB. I hope this manga turns out good.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on July 12, 2015, 08:33:21 PM
Goku runs things son as I've been saying FOR YEARS.  Do you remember when ABSOLUTE IDIOTS used to SWEAR that Gohan > Goku after the Buu saga?  I remember that.  Idiots can't melt steel beams right Neo?
People were saying Gohan > Goku DURING the Buu saga.

Which is true.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on July 12, 2015, 08:55:19 PM
People were saying Gohan > Goku DURING the Buu saga.

Which is true.

During the Buu saga Vegeta already said Goku was number 1. So now it comes down to if Vegeta was always number 2. If he is 2nd best now and without SSJ3, i think Gohan wasn't much stronger if at all during the Buu saga.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on July 12, 2015, 11:41:42 PM
Goku is and will always be the best. Oats is a fat fag that will never be able to wrap his head around that fact, because this on time Gohan powered up real good
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on July 13, 2015, 03:17:30 AM
Goku is and will always be the best. Oats is a fat fag that will never be able to wrap his head around that fact, because this on time Gohan powered up real good
I've never denied Goku being Superman.

Gohan was more powerful during the Buu saga, though.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on July 13, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Gohan was more powerful until Goku powered up and then beat up Buu
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on July 13, 2015, 08:50:32 AM
FYI its only been 6 months after the Buu saga in Dragon Ball Super. Not enough time for Goku and Vegeta to be the best, they already were.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Rynox on July 13, 2015, 11:23:48 AM
Gohan was more powerful until Goku powered up and then beat up Buu

But Superman > Goku rite?
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on July 13, 2015, 04:27:49 PM
Gohan was more powerful until Goku powered up and then beat up Buu
You mean when everyone gave their energy to the best Spirit Bomb ever?
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Post by: Hamburglar on July 13, 2015, 04:40:30 PM
Goku is and will always be the best. Oats is a fat fag that will never be able to wrap his head around that fact, because this on time Gohan powered up real good

(http://imgur.com/download/pQ2VhDn)
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Post by: Rynox on July 13, 2015, 05:18:31 PM
Hahahaha
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Post by: Thanos6 on July 13, 2015, 08:09:25 PM
So the second episode confirms what everyone knew: Vegeta is by far the better father.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on July 13, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
Goku is and will always be the best. Oats is a fat fag that will never be able to wrap his head around that fact, because this on time Gohan powered up real good

(http://imgur.com/download/pQ2VhDn)

Why do u hate my gf, guy?
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Post by: BillyRunsThingsSon on July 13, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
Gohan was more powerful until Goku powered up and then beat up Buu
You mean when everyone gave their energy to the best Spirit Bomb ever?

What would Gohan have done against Kid Buu?  Get beat to death that's what.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Saitou Hajime on July 13, 2015, 10:23:13 PM
FYI its only been 6 months after the Buu saga in Dragon Ball Super. Not enough time for Goku and Vegeta to be the best, they already were.

Goku, maybe, but Vegeta? He was only SSJ2 tier in the Buu saga, and 6 months isn't long enough to get to SSJ3 tier no matter how hard he trains, especially if he's goofing off in family trips intermittently like Super implies.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Hamburglar on July 13, 2015, 10:39:49 PM
Fucking Dragonball. All the Herochat weirdos come out for this one
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Rynox on July 13, 2015, 11:17:55 PM
Welcome back, SSM123456!
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on July 14, 2015, 04:10:24 AM
Goku, maybe, but Vegeta? He was only SSJ2 tier in the Buu saga, and 6 months isn't long enough to get to SSJ3 tier no matter how hard he trains, especially if he's goofing off in family trips intermittently like Super implies.

Kid Buu's power never went down
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on July 14, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
Vegeta enduring those family trips is training. He resilience and will-power increase a 1000x fold.
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Post by: BillyRunsThingsSon on July 14, 2015, 08:34:05 PM
Vegeta loves Trunks and Bulma very much.  He'll never be soft and cuddly though.  Bulma needs a man who'd tell her to shut STFU.
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Post by: Thanos6 on July 15, 2015, 06:59:21 AM
And Bulma being Bulma, she'll tell him exactly the same thing right back.  They make a great couple (for a certain definition of great) because they're the only ones that can put up with each other.  I think once the initial pain of the break-up cleared, Yamcha probably realized he was lucky not marrying her.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on July 15, 2015, 06:37:53 PM
and when people thought Gohan's ultimate power was permanent lol
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: BillyRunsThingsSon on July 15, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
and when people thought Gohan's ultimate power was permanent lol

Since it's like fighting power, I think it's linked to your fighting instinct.  Goku and Vegeta have warrior mentalities like a mug, but Gohan is just a regular guy with a wife and kid who just happens to have a high power level.  For that reason I think he's just inferior in combat.  The very act of fighting doesn't make him stronger like it does Goku and Vegeta.  Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Todd on July 16, 2015, 03:29:31 AM
vegeta lasted what? 10 seconds in 150g training? they shit on this guy CONSTANTLY.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on July 16, 2015, 03:35:54 AM
Vegeta was training for DAYS at 300g before he ever went Super Saiyan wtf did you come back to think you're talking about?
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Todd on July 16, 2015, 03:38:06 AM
Vegeta was training for DAYS at 300g before he ever went Super Saiyan wtf did you come back to think you're talking about?
episode 2 of super has him training at 150 and he tires out after like 10 seconds.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on July 16, 2015, 03:42:46 AM
Hahahaha fuck.

Toriyama not remembering anything or ever giving a shit confirmed.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Todd on July 16, 2015, 03:49:49 AM
not sure what the rules are on posting links these days, im white and dont give a fuck anyways since its ran by a nigger like safado, so here you go if you dont mind subtitles.

http://www.animetv.us/watch/dragon-ball-super-episode-1.html
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on July 16, 2015, 03:27:35 PM
Gohan and Gotenks about to get embarrassed again by Beerus next chapter lol
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on July 16, 2015, 04:52:53 PM
Goddamn Beerus is a waste of a character.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on July 16, 2015, 11:51:48 PM
Vegeta was training for DAYS at 300g before he ever went Super Saiyan wtf did you come back to think you're talking about?
episode 2 of super has him training at 150 and he tires out after like 10 seconds.
Ouch. What a slap in the face to the character.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on July 18, 2015, 10:07:56 PM
Oats is wrong about dbz shit again? I didn't expect that, at all.

. .
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Post by: Mightily Oats on July 18, 2015, 10:17:14 PM
Oats is wrong about dbz shit again? I didn't expect that, at all.

. .
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The only one wrong about DBZ shit is Akira Toriyama.

Again
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Rynox on July 18, 2015, 10:34:07 PM
Bwwwhhaaaaa
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on July 18, 2015, 11:38:55 PM
Oats is wrong about dbz shit again? I didn't expect that, at all.

. .
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The only one wrong about DBZ shit is Akira Toriyama.

Again
Yeah, he's making fun of it now...
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on August 02, 2015, 10:18:52 PM
Vegeta was training in 150g again for like 20 seconds and called it nothing.
Next episode Goku fights Bills and the fight looks better than before lol Maybe Gohan will last longer and Gotenks will use SSJ3.
Next episode preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teU2IGknDQw
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on August 03, 2015, 04:53:30 AM
I need to start watching this...
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Not BAMF on August 04, 2015, 09:34:07 AM
I still haven't even seen Battle of the Gods. I bet it's on YouTube... I should try to find it before I go see Resurrection F.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 04, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
I still haven't even seen Battle of the Gods. I bet it's on YouTube... I should try to find it before I go see Resurrection F.

Yes it is and yes.
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Post by: Not BAMF on August 05, 2015, 06:01:31 PM
I still haven't even seen Battle of the Gods. I bet it's on YouTube... I should try to find it before I go see Resurrection F.

Yes it is and yes.

Saw them both today. Battle of Gods was a LOT better than Resurrection F. Resurrection felt like really bad fan fiction.
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Post by: Bandido on August 05, 2015, 08:33:21 PM
I'd have said the exact opposite. Resurrection F definitely didn't feel like a DBZ movie with all the same bulwarks as has been common place. The narrative wasn't the quick, *Villain shown in Space - Declares plan of revenge, dragon balls, conquering etc.. - Villain arrives and earths forces put up a valiant and losing battle before Piccolo intervenes - Big Bad takes Piccolo and then Goku and big bad square off before one upping each other to 90's/00's rock. The story is very DBZ but the execution isn't really. Battle of the gods felt much more like a Dragon Ball affair, not DBZ; it was silly and Resurrection F played the whole show straighter.

Now, it had all of, or most of those elements, but the progression was entirely different than seen before. There was also a nice moment for every member of the DBZ gang to shine, Tri-Beam, Destructo Disk, Kamehameha (Roshi's) and Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon. There's even a nice 4th wall breaking wink at Yamcha and Chatzou being too weak to participate in the battle.

Despite Trunks and Frieza having history, the character only appears in Flashback; Goten is only briefly mentioned. - Odd considering they would be capable of SSj2 and a huge help fighting the Frieza soldiers.

Other Thoughts: Did the aesthetic for the Super Saiyan god mode change from reddish to that awesome neon turquoise?
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on August 07, 2015, 10:34:31 PM
I can't stand either of them.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 08, 2015, 02:20:16 AM
The blue look is Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.

Yes, I know.

Also, Yamcha an Chiatzo being too weak, but ROSHI is good to go?

Weaker than King Piccolo Roshi is somehow more powerful than 2 guys who, at WORSE can take on the Ginyu Force? (I'm aware it's anime filler, but still)

Even if Yamcha is "only" as powerful as post King Kai Goku, he's still well beyond fucking ROSHI.

Also? Piccolo should have been able to solo the whole army. Like wtf
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Post by: Bandido on August 08, 2015, 03:10:01 AM
I can't stand either of them.
Not a DBZ fan or just these two movies?
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 08, 2015, 05:29:58 AM
These two movies.  My avatar should have clued you in to the fact that I'm a DBZ fan. :D

Really, I'm not a fan of basically any new story content they've done post-Z.  GT, Xenoverse, these movies, Super...
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 08, 2015, 02:20:30 PM
Can't wait for Oozaru Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Oozaru.
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Post by: Gree on August 08, 2015, 02:49:42 PM
After some quick googling this looks super stupid. They couldve at least thought of different forms for the saiyans and Frieza other than a pallete swap.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 08, 2015, 03:44:12 PM
Can't wait for Oozaru Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Oozaru.
No one has tails, and Dragonball is hardly the sort of comic to retcon itself without any regard for what has come before.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 08, 2015, 03:44:30 PM
Pretty sure Toriyama himself designed the "new" forms. I'm guessing he ultimately got tired of the trope he helped usher in with all the fucking transformations in the genre.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 08, 2015, 03:50:46 PM
I was being an eye-ron
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Post by: Alphaduck on August 08, 2015, 03:55:45 PM
After some quick googling this looks super stupid. They couldve at least thought of different forms for the saiyans and Frieza other than a pallete swap.

Yeah it's fucking lazy, even fans make cooler designs
(http://images.forwallpaper.com/files/images/8/8174/81745662/73949/super-saiyan-5-gogeta.jpg).
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 08, 2015, 03:56:44 PM
I was responding to Gree. So Tien-se.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 08, 2015, 03:58:49 PM
Fucking interlopers flying in DBZ-style while I'm in the middle of conversin heah.
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Post by: Bandido on August 08, 2015, 04:58:12 PM
After some quick googling this looks super stupid. They couldve at least thought of different forms for the saiyans and Frieza other than a pallete swap.

Yeah it's fucking lazy, even fans make cooler designs
(http://images.forwallpaper.com/files/images/8/8174/81745662/73949/super-saiyan-5-gogeta.jpg).
Gotta be honest, that looks way too deviantart-lite for me. I prefer the simplicity of the new designs.
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Post by: Gree on August 08, 2015, 08:07:44 PM
Haha what? How could you prefer them they are horrible.
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Post by: Gree on August 08, 2015, 08:10:10 PM
Something like this...

http://walldes-download.com/super-saiyan-5-wallpaper-37/


Would've been cool for a "God form" with the right modifications
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 08, 2015, 08:36:34 PM
You're both out of your minds. Here's your Super Saiyan God..


(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/mugen/images/c/c3/DBZ_broly_1.png/revision/latest?cb=20140101183600)
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 08, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
You're both out of your minds. Here's your Super Saiyan God..


(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/mugen/images/c/c3/DBZ_broly_1.png/revision/latest?cb=20140101183600)
He's not God.

He's the Devil
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 08, 2015, 09:30:51 PM
Roshi was so awesome.
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Post by: Panthergod on August 08, 2015, 10:42:03 PM
So i have the whole series. should i just start at tje beginning?
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Post by: Bandido on August 08, 2015, 11:07:26 PM
Haha what? How could you prefer them they are horrible.
They're just a pallet swap of SSj1.
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Post by: Alphaduck on August 08, 2015, 11:15:02 PM
So i have the whole series. should i just start at tje beginning?

Yes, kid Goku adventures are the best.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Gree on August 09, 2015, 09:52:54 AM
Haha what? How could you prefer them they are horrible.
They're just a pallet swap of SSj1.

Exactly its like an 8 year olds fan fiction.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on August 10, 2015, 02:24:50 AM
Haha what? How could you prefer them they are horrible.
They're just a pallet swap of SSj1.

Exactly its like an 8 year olds fan fiction.
Do you like the design of SSj1? Because if so you like god-mode SSj.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on August 17, 2015, 04:36:19 AM
Whis seems to know Gohan is ultimate and called it that state.

Episode 7 preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLTBxzmPHgk

Gotenks isnt even SSJ lol Vegeta better go SSJ3 this time!
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 17, 2015, 07:54:27 AM
Why?

Goku and Roshi both admitted that Vegeta was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku while still being, presumably, SSJ2.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 17, 2015, 07:58:30 AM
With that in mind, it's Toriyama
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Post by: Ramz on August 17, 2015, 12:44:13 PM
Why?

Goku and Roshi both admitted that Vegeta was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku while still being, presumably, SSJ2.
It's insane how pathetic you are.
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Post by: mob parker on August 17, 2015, 01:39:04 PM
Why?

Goku and Roshi both admitted that Vegeta was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku while still being, presumably, SSJ2.

If you haven't noticed Super made some changes.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Alphaduck on August 17, 2015, 03:58:44 PM
Vegeta is stronger than Goku (at same saiyan level), but Goku is always a step beyond.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 17, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
I don't get how people even try to follow power levels. It's just whatever the story needs now. I remember when all the characters use to be important. Piccolo use to be relevant. Gohan was super relevant. Hell even Krillin would contribute.

There were some little sub-plots and subtle foreshadowings. We had some character development (mostly just Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta), and Goku didn't save the day by default every time. Piccolo defeated Raditz, Gohan beat Cell & Garlic Jr. (twice).

Now if you're not Goku you really don't matter.

More importantly I feel like the fight choreography is different. I mean there were some big changes from DB and DBZ and even throughout some of the arcs. But I tried looking at some of the new Dragonball Z stuff and it felt really different.
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Post by: Rynox on August 17, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Why?

Goku and Roshi both admitted that Vegeta was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku while still being, presumably, SSJ2.
It's insane how pathetic you are.

(http://i.imgur.com/Bx62lMl.png)
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 17, 2015, 10:17:32 PM
Why?

Goku and Roshi both admitted that Vegeta was more powerful than SSJ3 Goku while still being, presumably, SSJ2.
It's insane how pathetic you are.
Goku is your chimp out topic, every single time.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on August 18, 2015, 02:27:54 AM
I chimp out at the fact that such a rational idiot can be side tracked by such biased idiocy.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 18, 2015, 02:31:56 AM
I chimp out at the fact that such a rational idiot can be side tracked by such biased idiocy.
You're not making any kind of sense.

What have I said (or not said) that is somehow information that the story itself doesn't include?

Please. Enlighten me. Everything I've said is verifiable based on actual information the story provides.

Am I misrepresenting something? No. Fuck you. You go literally insane at anyone even talking about anyone other than Goku when DBZ comes up. For no reason. Shove it up your ass if you think anything I've said isn't accurate or verifiable.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 18, 2015, 02:33:06 AM
Fuck it. Let me answer for you.


GOKU.


There. You've come in and made a non point and ranted about nothing. You're just one more post away from telling me I'm melting down without you yourself actually having anything rational or substantial to say.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 18, 2015, 04:03:41 AM
Fuck it. Let me answer for you.


GOKU.


NO. BROLY.

Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on August 18, 2015, 09:49:17 AM
I chimp out at the fact that such a rational idiot can be side tracked by such biased idiocy.
You're not making any kind of sense.

What have I said (or not said) that is somehow information that the story itself doesn't include?

Please. Enlighten me. Everything I've said is verifiable based on actual information the story provides.

Am I misrepresenting something? No. Fuck you. You go literally insane at anyone even talking about anyone other than Goku when DBZ comes up. For no reason. Shove it up your ass if you think anything I've said isn't accurate or verifiable.

Your implication that Vegeta is better than Goku because this one time some guy said that once during dinner when he was drunk.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on August 18, 2015, 09:50:18 AM
But by all mean, continue with this meltdown.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 18, 2015, 10:16:39 AM
I chimp out at the fact that such a rational idiot can be side tracked by such biased idiocy.
You're not making any kind of sense.

What have I said (or not said) that is somehow information that the story itself doesn't include?

Please. Enlighten me. Everything I've said is verifiable based on actual information the story provides.

Am I misrepresenting something? No. Fuck you. You go literally insane at anyone even talking about anyone other than Goku when DBZ comes up. For no reason. Shove it up your ass if you think anything I've said isn't accurate or verifiable.

Your implication that Vegeta is better than Goku because this one time some guy said that once during dinner when he was drunk.
No, you childish fucking retard.

Vegeta, at this one specific time, was more powerful (briefly) than Goku.

That's all I said, and that you're this fucking insecure about Goku's power level is absolutely astounding.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 18, 2015, 10:19:23 AM
That you had to misrepresent, skew and personally misinterpret what I said to even have the faintest inkling of what might be considered a coherent thought is some straight up delusional shit, and I'll clarify further because I know you need it:

Is Goku (now) more powerful than Vegeta? Yes. Is he 99% of the time? Yes.

Now notice there's nothing whatsoever in the way of contradiction between my clarifying statement and my original point, and hang your head in fucking shame you clod.
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Post by: Rynox on August 18, 2015, 12:49:19 PM
Meanwhile, in Nox's lair (basement)

(http://i.imgur.com/XjGAqqm.gif)
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Ramz on August 18, 2015, 02:31:39 PM
That you had to misrepresent, skew and personally misinterpret what I said to even have the faintest inkling of what might be considered a coherent thought is some straight up delusional shit, and I'll clarify further because I know you need it:

Is Goku (now) more powerful than Vegeta? Yes. Is he 99% of the time? Yes.

Now notice there's nothing whatsoever in the way of contradiction between my clarifying statement and my original point, and hang your head in fucking shame you clod.

Such anger at the thought of Goku's supreme power. Keep that 1% close to your heart though. Hug it and cradle it - and don't worry about that 1% leaving you, it won't go anywhere, it's likely way more power than Superman himself can muster, after all.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: mob parker on August 21, 2015, 02:00:17 AM
Gohan does nothing lol Goku better try fusion this time.

Super manga ahead of the anime right now
http://readms.com/r/dragon_ball_super/003/2902/1
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Post by: mob parker on August 23, 2015, 04:11:58 PM
Even in the anime Gohan does nothing and Gotenks stays in base lol We have to wait until next episode to see Vegeta fight.

Gohans face lol 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8sWQRIi22E
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Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 23, 2015, 04:16:25 PM
I'm glad I decided to read this topic. Watching a nerd raged lovers' spat between Ramz and Oats makes me rock hard.
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Post by: Rynox on August 23, 2015, 10:35:41 PM
It's one of the finer things of Herochat.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 23, 2015, 10:41:34 PM
Goku has got to be one of the finest cases of "why is THIS character the protagonist everyone else in the franchise would make a more interesting hero" syndrome ever.
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Post by: Bandido on August 23, 2015, 11:24:01 PM
I disagree, there's an inherent, oblivious charm in his character which is unlike most others.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 23, 2015, 11:51:01 PM
You see his obliviousness as charm, I see it as fucking irritating.
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Post by: Alphaduck on August 24, 2015, 12:40:30 AM
Is not uncommon in anime. Shiryu or Ikki are much more interesting characters than Seiya. Shinji fucking sucks rotten dicks but.. he was the main character of Evangelion. Not to mention 99.9% of harem leads are horrible.

We all expected Gohan to grow as a leading character after Goku passed away. He was smart, funny, had a cute non-crazy gf, but.. Toriyama hates him, apparently.

Hope
(http://i.imgur.com/kaeZ7Bv.jpg)

Reality
(http://i.imgur.com/zeVdIoa.png)
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on August 24, 2015, 01:42:30 AM
Hell, since Toriyama has said Piccolo is his favorite character, he could have had HIM take over.
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Post by: Bandido on August 24, 2015, 03:23:31 AM
Toriyama does hate  Gohan - Seemed like he got bored weaving his story together.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 24, 2015, 03:29:27 AM
Hell, since Toriyama has said Piccolo is his favorite character, he could have had HIM take over.
He's backtracked on that and is firm about Goku being his favourite character.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 24, 2015, 12:30:11 PM
Toriyama does hate  Gohan - Seemed like he got bored weaving his story together.

ever since Gohan grew up he's been getting shit on, which really bugged me because DBZ was really about Gohan's narrative arc until after the Cell Saga.

Dragon Ball was all about Goku growing up and becoming the man.  DBZ the majority of the character growth and development is for Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta.

Gohan starts off as this whinny cry baby with the over protective mom, who is forced to turn into this pre-teen badass. And ultimate assume his fathers role as protector of the Earth in the cell saga passing on the torch. It was one of the first stories I can remember where the main character passes the torch. Or at least it was until the next saga where Gohan started to get Yamcha'd.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 24, 2015, 01:08:06 PM
I couldn't stand the second half of the Cell Saga where Gohan became the hero.  Don't get me wrong, him becoming the hero was a good idea, but to me it involved even more Toriyama ass-pulls than usual.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 24, 2015, 01:10:52 PM
I liked Gohan in his Great Saiyaman phase. It was $$$.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 24, 2015, 02:36:55 PM
I couldn't stand the second half of the Cell Saga where Gohan became the hero.  Don't get me wrong, him becoming the hero was a good idea, but to me it involved even more Toriyama ass-pulls than usual.

the Android saga was kind of an ass pull. Planet busting and Super Saiyain levels really should have been the upper limit. Than it just got out of control. I still don't understand the whole fucking too muscular too slow shit with Trunks, but whatever. Since when did size matter for the DBZ verse.

Still I let it slide because the Trunks future shit was really cool to me as a kid. Also the Cell Saga just closed a lot of plot lines/threads nicely. Piccolo and Kami merging, which felt like a long time coming. Giving Vegeta a purpose/new direction after the death of Frieza (even if the Bulma marriage is totally random).


Since the beginning of DBZ Gohan has had this incredible hidden power. 100x stronger than anything Goku had at the same age. It just made sense by DBZ logic that he would become the strongest warrior.

Plus I loved the throwback to the Red Ribbon army, and all the other DB characters (minus Chiatsu and people like Oolong and Chi Chi) were useful. Tien, Krillin even Yamaha were there. It just felt like a good send off for the series, closed off some plot points.

Don't get me wrong I was pumped when new episodes came out but once Gotten and Trunks became Super Saiayins with little to no effort it felt like Toriyama wasn't even trying anymore.
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Post by: Ramz on August 24, 2015, 03:34:31 PM
Guys, Goku's the most powerful fuck, get with it.
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Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 24, 2015, 03:39:23 PM
Punch Oats in the face so I can finish already!
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on August 24, 2015, 04:46:24 PM
My problem with the whole "Gohan's hidden power" thing is that originally it was just presented as "because he's half-Saiyan," that half-Saiyans are just ludicrously powerful right from the get-go.  And that just seemed to be reinforced by Freeza being effortlessly chopped and disintegrated.  But then halfway through the Cell Saga, suddenly we get "oh no, Gohan has EVEN MORE hidden power than other half-Saiyans" and we never really get an explanation as to what makes him so special as compared to the other half-Saiyans.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 24, 2015, 06:36:22 PM
Guys, Goku's the most powerful fuck, get with it.

no purple cat n da blue fairy are stronger

Also, Broly
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Master on August 24, 2015, 08:16:18 PM
Meanwhile, in Nox's lair (basement)

(http://i.imgur.com/XjGAqqm.gif)
BWA-HAHAHha! Holy shit, that reaction pic nearly ended me.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on August 25, 2015, 04:36:00 AM
Toriyama does hate  Gohan - Seemed like he got bored weaving his story together.

ever since Gohan grew up he's been getting shit on, which really bugged me because DBZ was really about Gohan's narrative arc until after the Cell Saga.

Dragon Ball was all about Goku growing up and becoming the man.  DBZ the majority of the character growth and development is for Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta.

Gohan starts off as this whinny cry baby with the over protective mom, who is forced to turn into this pre-teen badass. And ultimate assume his fathers role as protector of the Earth in the cell saga passing on the torch. It was one of the first stories I can remember where the main character passes the torch. Or at least it was until the next saga where Gohan started to get Yamcha'd.
It's true, DBZ traded developing him for Vegeta as the number 2 character. The World tournament - Majin Buu Sagas, focused on The Goku/Vegeta dynamic of family and adopted brotherhood rather than the hero's journey of Gohan.
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Post by: Kallor on August 25, 2015, 04:53:39 AM
My problem with the whole "Gohan's hidden power" thing is that originally it was just presented as "because he's half-Saiyan," that half-Saiyans are just ludicrously powerful right from the get-go.  And that just seemed to be reinforced by Freeza being effortlessly chopped and disintegrated.  But then halfway through the Cell Saga, suddenly we get "oh no, Gohan has EVEN MORE hidden power than other half-Saiyans" and we never really get an explanation as to what makes him so special as compared to the other half-Saiyans.

Goku's genes are better than Vegeta's, so Gohan's power potential is greater than Trunks.  Trunks was still stronger than Vegeta, so the whole half-saiyan being greater than full saiyan thing holds true.  Goten and Trunks were super saiyans at like 5, so again half-breeds rule.  What makes Goku so much better than other saiyans when he himself is a saiyan?  The fact that he's Goku and they aren't.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 25, 2015, 06:18:29 AM
Goku himself says he's nothing special compared to Vegeta, but what sets him apart is his rigorous training (exemplified by the journey to Namek; I dread to think what Vegeta could have become in the same situation), his concentrating less on winning and more on not losing (as Vegeta says during the fight with Kid Buu), and a good helping dose of luck.
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Post by: Rynox on August 25, 2015, 11:39:05 AM

BWA-HAHAHha! Holy shit, that reaction pic nearly ended me.

That's just how I'm feeling right now.

I don't know if that makes Ramz Jabba, and Oats Leia, but it feels accurate.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 25, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
My problem with the whole "Gohan's hidden power" thing is that originally it was just presented as "because he's half-Saiyan," that half-Saiyans are just ludicrously powerful right from the get-go.  And that just seemed to be reinforced by Freeza being effortlessly chopped and disintegrated.  But then halfway through the Cell Saga, suddenly we get "oh no, Gohan has EVEN MORE hidden power than other half-Saiyans" and we never really get an explanation as to what makes him so special as compared to the other half-Saiyans.

the whole half-saiyain thing was just a fan theory tho. Ppl just brought that shit up because of Trunks. Gohan has always had more hidden power than any of the other DB characters.

Gohan's progression was far above Goku and Vegeta's at the same age.

My problem with the whole "Gohan's hidden power" thing is that originally it was just presented as "because he's half-Saiyan," that half-Saiyans are just ludicrously powerful right from the get-go.  And that just seemed to be reinforced by Freeza being effortlessly chopped and disintegrated.  But then halfway through the Cell Saga, suddenly we get "oh no, Gohan has EVEN MORE hidden power than other half-Saiyans" and we never really get an explanation as to what makes him so special as compared to the other half-Saiyans.

Goku's genes are better than Vegeta's, so Gohan's power potential is greater than Trunks.  Trunks was still stronger than Vegeta, so the whole half-saiyan being greater than full saiyan thing holds true.  Goten and Trunks were super saiyans at like 5, so again half-breeds rule.  What makes Goku so much better than other saiyans when he himself is a saiyan?  The fact that he's Goku and they aren't.

Goten and Trunks just broke everything it got dumb. No way Future Trunks was going SS at 9. And Gotten shouldn't even exist as far as I'm concerned. He was just created for Trunks to have someone to interact with and adventure with.



Toriyama does hate  Gohan - Seemed like he got bored weaving his story together.

ever since Gohan grew up he's been getting shit on, which really bugged me because DBZ was really about Gohan's narrative arc until after the Cell Saga.

Dragon Ball was all about Goku growing up and becoming the man.  DBZ the majority of the character growth and development is for Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta.

Gohan starts off as this whinny cry baby with the over protective mom, who is forced to turn into this pre-teen badass. And ultimate assume his fathers role as protector of the Earth in the cell saga passing on the torch. It was one of the first stories I can remember where the main character passes the torch. Or at least it was until the next saga where Gohan started to get Yamcha'd.
It's true, DBZ traded developing him for Vegeta as the number 2 character. The World tournament - Majin Buu Sagas, focused on The Goku/Vegeta dynamic of family and adopted brotherhood rather than the hero's journey of Gohan.


looking back at Vegeta's character than compared to now I really think they took a wrong turn with him after the Frieza Saga. Yeah he was still cool and interesting in the Cell Saga but now I don't really get what's going on with the character.

He just comes off like a blowhard that's never going to be as good as Goku. After the Frieza saga he's developed this "little man" syndrome. Where he just gets beaten down by the final boss till someone else comes and saves the day.

Goku himself says he's nothing special compared to Vegeta, but what sets him apart is his rigorous training (exemplified by the journey to Namek; I dread to think what Vegeta could have become in the same situation), his concentrating less on winning and more on not losing (as Vegeta says during the fight with Kid Buu), and a good helping dose of luck.

After the Saiyain Saga Vegeta was never on par with Goku, and he really only got the advantage because of his ape transformation.  They both had an equal amount of time to train in the hyperbolic time chamber, but Goku was able to greatly out pace Vegeta through his sessions. Hell even after Goku died he got way stronger than Vegeta, discovering Super Saiyain 3.
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Post by: Alphaduck on August 25, 2015, 12:29:48 PM
Goku is implied to be some kind of natural fighting genius -doing stuff at subconscious level-, at least in the new movies.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 25, 2015, 04:56:54 PM
...Ghana?  ;D
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 25, 2015, 05:06:15 PM
BTW, Goku has never knocked out Vegeta. Ever.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 25, 2015, 05:19:12 PM
BTW, Goku has never knocked out Vegeta. Ever.

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd195/nightmare010/thfreezer-chof.gif)


(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/2215337_o.gif)

Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 25, 2015, 05:20:34 PM
BTW, Goku has never knocked out Vegeta. Ever.

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd195/nightmare010/thfreezer-chof.gif)


(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/2215337_o.gif)

I'm not saying Vegeta hasn't had his ass beaten before lmao.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 25, 2015, 05:24:24 PM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 25, 2015, 09:32:24 PM
I think another proof of the ass-pull nature of Gohan's "hidden power" is how comparatively weak the Gohan from the dark timeline is, a much older Gohan who has presumably been training a lot harder.
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Post by: Kallor on August 25, 2015, 09:44:18 PM
I think another proof of the ass-pull nature of Gohan's "hidden power" is how comparatively weak the Gohan from the dark timeline is, a much older Gohan who has presumably been training a lot harder.

How can it be an ass-pull when it was there from the very beginning of Z?  Gohan's hidden power was a plot thread that had been building to a climax for 180 episodes, it had to lead to something eventually.  It seems like what you really don't like is that Gohan was stronger than Trunks, and I don't see why there needs to be any explanation for that beyond them being two different people.
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Post by: Ramz on August 26, 2015, 12:21:03 AM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.

This guy gets it
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Post by: BigJayStudd on August 26, 2015, 12:30:21 AM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.

This guy gets it

(http://lovelace-media.imgix.net/uploads/695/9acb79c0-c1ac-0132-4596-0ebc4eccb42f.gif?)

Ramz please. No more with Oats. Herochat cannot take much more
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Post by: Rynox on August 26, 2015, 12:46:01 AM
Nonsense, let them figure this out.

Now where was I? Ah yes

(http://i.imgur.com/P4X2B87.gif)
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 26, 2015, 01:09:33 AM
Because it isn't explained why he has it and other half-Saiyans  (even his own brother) don't, or even his future self. Being super-strong as a child is no different from the others. It's the whole Cell-Saga nonsense I call bullshit on.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 26, 2015, 01:36:32 AM
I will jizz to this all day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIH9uas-uPk
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Post by: Bandido on August 26, 2015, 02:28:24 AM
It really was worth the hype too.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 26, 2015, 09:34:53 AM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.

I'm not saying Goku isn't superior to Vegeta, Vegeta admitted it that he's 2nd best. I'm just pointing out that, Vegeta has knocked out Goku and Goku never has knocked out Vegeta.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 26, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.

I'm not saying Goku isn't superior to Vegeta, Vegeta admitted it that he's 2nd best. I'm just pointing out that, Vegeta has knocked out Goku and Goku never has knocked out Vegeta.

yeah but your omitting that it was a sucker shot when his back was turned and his guard was down. Thats like claiming Matt Hamill beat Jon Jones in their UFC match.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 26, 2015, 10:26:00 AM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.

I'm not saying Goku isn't superior to Vegeta, Vegeta admitted it that he's 2nd best. I'm just pointing out that, Vegeta has knocked out Goku and Goku never has knocked out Vegeta.

yeah but your omitting that it was a sucker shot when his back was turned and his guard was down. Thats like claiming Matt Hamill beat Jon Jones in their UFC match.

That's not what I was referring to. Ape Vegeta beat Goku.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 26, 2015, 10:39:34 AM
I'm just saying this Vegeta vs Goku shit has been long since settled.

Goku hasn't wanted to knock Vegeta out because he doesn't view him as an equal.  He let his fucking 13 year old son take on Cell before even giving Vegeta a chance. He didn't even go Super Saiyain 3 against Vegeta so he wouldn't hurt his feelings, because goku knows deep down that Vegeta isn't even close to his level and never will be.

Ape Vegeta never knocked out Goku. he crushed him in his fist, but was still very conscious. The only knock out Vegeta ever scored on Goku was during the Buu Saga

I'm not saying Goku isn't superior to Vegeta, Vegeta admitted it that he's 2nd best. I'm just pointing out that, Vegeta has knocked out Goku and Goku never has knocked out Vegeta.

yeah but your omitting that it was a sucker shot when his back was turned and his guard was down. Thats like claiming Matt Hamill beat Jon Jones in their UFC match.

That's not what I was referring to. Ape Vegeta beat Goku.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 26, 2015, 11:52:45 AM
First Vegeta vs. Goku fight and first Goku vs. Piccolo Jr fight are the best in the series.

Different powers on either side, a load of back and forth, and Goku gets by crippled and bloodied.

Great stuff.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 26, 2015, 11:53:40 AM
Goku vs. "Jackie Chun" is up there too.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on August 26, 2015, 12:14:59 PM
Goku vs. "Jackie Chun" is up there too.

Jackie Chun vs Tien too
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Post by: Ramz on August 26, 2015, 01:33:08 PM
First Vegeta vs. Goku fight and first Goku vs. Piccolo Jr fight are the best in the series.

Different powers on either side, a load of back and forth, and Goku gets by crippled and bloodied.

Great stuff.

Will you ever shut up, guy?
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on August 26, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
First Vegeta vs. Goku fight and first Goku vs. Piccolo Jr fight are the best in the series.

Different powers on either side, a load of back and forth, and Goku gets by crippled and bloodied.

Great stuff.

yeah I do feel like the fights got less creative. DBZ slowly stopped using techniques and special moves and it became all about power levels, throwing away all the shit that got built up in Dragonball

Piccolo and the other Nameks don't even use half the magic they seem to be capable of. King Piccolo was doing all sorts of random shit back in Dragonball. Hell even Lord Slug did a few random things.

And the whole Saiyain tail, giant monkey transformations were totally abandoned until near the end of Dragon Ball GT.

I really think Toriyama should have walked away when he was on top and kept pursuing other projects

(http://i.giphy.com/mhYRMsR3cz8Xe.gif)
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Post by: Mightily Oats on August 26, 2015, 06:14:40 PM
First Vegeta vs. Goku fight and first Goku vs. Piccolo Jr fight are the best in the series.

Different powers on either side, a load of back and forth, and Goku gets by crippled and bloodied.

Great stuff.

Will you ever shut up, guy?
Ox King is the single most powerful character in DBZ history
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Post by: Ramz on August 26, 2015, 08:44:48 PM
Dat height doe
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Post by: Hamburglar on August 26, 2015, 08:53:02 PM
You guys kno DBZ is literally the queerest shit ever, right? It lost DC 2 million dollars
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Post by: Alphaduck on August 26, 2015, 11:50:43 PM
I really think Toriyama should have walked away when he was on top and kept pursuing other projects

Yeap, if you are not Goku, you are useless. Every character have become useless and it's sad.

compare to series like this
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/YYK_protagonists.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/7RDZ98h.jpg) vs...
https://youtu.be/fHeoREYkEgk

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Post by: Bandido on August 27, 2015, 02:34:00 AM
Eh, Yu Yu Hakusho peaked at season 2.

Resurrection of F was far more balanced in terms of power-portrayals than past flicks. Vegeta and Goku's abilities complemented, rather than eclipsed each others.
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Post by: Thanos6 on August 27, 2015, 03:43:19 AM
And yet they couldn't even throw Vegeta the bone of letting him get to kill Freeza this time.
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Post by: Alphaduck on August 27, 2015, 12:41:37 PM
Eh, Yu Yu Hakusho peaked at season 2.

Resurrection of F was far more balanced in terms of power-portrayals than past flicks. Vegeta and Goku's abilities complemented, rather than eclipsed each others.

But all the characters remained interesting and important in YYH. Resurrection of F is pathetic in that aspect: Gohan? pfffffffffffffffff. Piccoro and others? irrelevant cannon fodder.
Where is the character development of Yamcha, Tien, Krillin? What about Dende? Toriyama is like the George Lucas of anime.
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Post by: Hamburglar on August 27, 2015, 01:18:24 PM
Someone needs to move this to the Jungle Room
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Post by: Master on August 28, 2015, 09:00:49 PM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/2b98195624d97e6f11d4ec08d35aee66/tumblr_np6wflrNTb1tp3ho4o4_400.gif)
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Post by: mob parker on August 30, 2015, 04:37:51 PM
Vegeta put up a fight instead of his 2 combos from BOG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-xvrCvjA
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Post by: Bandido on August 31, 2015, 04:16:59 AM
So, non Super Saiyan, Supper Saiyan god-mode Goku fought Beerus at up to 80% of Beerus' power. There Vegeta forced Beerus to use 1%, though still pushed him more than SSj3 Goku.


Gotta love DBZ.
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Post by: mob parker on August 31, 2015, 06:41:01 AM
The dub I saw said 10%, and Gohan turns SSJ in the next episode for the SSJG ritual lol
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Post by: JookDukem on September 01, 2015, 12:19:14 PM
You guys kno DBZ is literally the queerest shit ever, right? It lost DC 2 million dollars

Fucking marry me and let's ditch these nerds together.
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Post by: Master on September 01, 2015, 12:47:38 PM
You guys kno DBZ is literally the queerest shit ever, right? It lost DC 2 million dollars

Fucking marry me and let's ditch these nerds together.

Fair warning... he's a Mexican Canadian. Very bland in personality, but he loves spicy foods.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on September 02, 2015, 07:27:39 AM
Vegeta put up a fight instead of his 2 combos from BOG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-xvrCvjA

ugh I felt like the GT fights were better than this.

beyond the animation being different the fight choreography is different and not as interesting.


Also DBZ has totally killed the whole holding back your strength/power level troupe. It's not even funny anymore. First it was weighted clothing. Than it was Frieza going through 3 different transformations, and holding back his max final form strength for like 50 episodes. Than we moved into higher Super Saiyain levels and fusion. Now were onto Gods or some other shit.

Well it was good while it lasted like 10 years ago.
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Post by: Master on September 03, 2015, 05:14:36 PM
To liven things up, here is Goku beating the piss out of everyone in Street Fighter II.

http://kotaku.com/goku-kicking-everybodys-ass-in-street-fighter-ii-1728432751?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=thursdayAM
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Post by: Ramz on September 03, 2015, 06:08:14 PM
Ya bite hnnnnnsk
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Post by: Bandido on September 04, 2015, 12:43:22 AM
Vegeta put up a fight instead of his 2 combos from BOG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-xvrCvjA

ugh I felt like the GT fights were better than this.

beyond the animation being different the fight choreography is different and not as interesting.


Also DBZ has totally killed the whole holding back your strength/power level troupe. It's not even funny anymore. First it was weighted clothing. Than it was Frieza going through 3 different transformations, and holding back his max final form strength for like 50 episodes. Than we moved into higher Super Saiyain levels and fusion. Now were onto Gods or some other shit.

Well it was good while it lasted like 10 years ago.
I definitely agree with Battle of the gods - The animation, and fight choreography felt very slow and un-DBZ. No kinetic punch to anything. Resurrection of F though, I thought did an awesome job of rectifying that -The animation was much more fluid, but things had weight and impact - Such as the one inch-punch. They also livened things up with that panoramic effect, where the camera moves around and with the characters.
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Post by: Not BAMF on September 04, 2015, 08:02:35 AM
To liven things up, here is Goku beating the piss out of everyone in Street Fighter II.

http://kotaku.com/goku-kicking-everybodys-ass-in-street-fighter-ii-1728432751?utm_source=recirculation&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=thursdayAM

Cue some fucking nerds with the "Not true! IN THE STREET FIGHTER ANIME, those characters could...."
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Post by: Gree on September 04, 2015, 11:29:05 AM
That was awesome
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Post by: mob parker on September 07, 2015, 12:11:21 AM
Videl became SSJ and no mention of Tarble lol

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11336088_873757069373524_727140932_n.jpg)
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on September 07, 2015, 12:45:17 AM
Cartoon needs more Janemba
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Post by: Mightily Oats on September 07, 2015, 01:11:26 AM
Videl became SSJ and no mention of Tarble lol

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e35/11336088_873757069373524_727140932_n.jpg)
I believe it was the BABE in her WHOOM that allowed this thing.
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Post by: mob parker on September 27, 2015, 11:49:46 PM
3 blows from Goku vs Beerus and its destroying the universe lol random planets and what not crumbling. I wonder if the Freiza fight will be like that since it was on Earth.
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Post by: Dalek on September 28, 2015, 11:16:27 PM
I am actually curious if they will have the Freiza fight destroy the universe in this.

The way that it got resolved at the end they have an out to fix everything anyway.
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Post by: altoon on September 29, 2015, 03:15:37 AM
Gohan was more powerful until Goku powered up and then beat up Buu

I always assumed Goku surpasses Gohan whenever he reached ssj3.  If Gohan had focused on his training like Goku things would be different.
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Post by: Gree on September 30, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
Cartoon needs more Janemba

He was a boss
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Post by: mob parker on October 21, 2015, 07:38:52 AM
The new chapter just skips Vegeta getting SSJ Blue/SSJGSS and Gohan losing Ultimate lolz. Hopefully the anime doesnt. The next arc in Super is a tournament with Beerus and his fat twin brother Champa have 6 champions fight for them for Beerus' Earth. It was mentioned Champa's Earth was ruined by war with some fans believing to be future Trunks timeline.
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Post by: Strange on October 21, 2015, 11:16:51 AM
What da fuq is SSJGSS?
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Post by: Kallor on October 21, 2015, 11:22:37 AM
What da fuq is SSJGSS?

It's super hyper mega saiyan god grand prix.  Duh.
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Post by: mob parker on November 01, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
What da fuq is SSJGSS?

super saiyan god super saiyan. super saiyan blue is the new name

Vegeta caught up to Goku in 6 months without the god ritual. Gohan said hes going to train so he can protect the earth lol loses ultimate and doesnt know if he can still turn ssj
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on November 01, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
Toriyama is worse than George Lucas. Far worse
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Post by: mob parker on November 08, 2015, 12:56:48 PM
Vegeta is implied to be stronger than Goku and it looks like we're not getting an explanation on the blue hair, in the manga it just happens and Whis is the only one who mentions it. They've been careful not to show Goku use SSJ since BOG and Vegetas training has been a mix of classic DB Roshi training and King Kai training.
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Post by: mob parker on November 26, 2015, 10:29:04 PM
chapter 6 spoilers lol

When Beerus is asking Goku/Vegeta who to bring to fight

Vegeta: “What about Gohan? Frankly, he’s probably the one with the highest potential.”
Goku: “No way! He does nothin’ but study all the time. He can’t even find his dougi anymore!”

Goku, Vegeta, Buu, Piccolo and some random will fight for Beerus. Champa said he will have his own saiyans.
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Post by: Bandido on November 27, 2015, 08:28:25 PM
Yeah, the strongest guy Beerus has ever fought, apparently. Hope it's Mr. Popo.
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Post by: mob parker on November 29, 2015, 04:31:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOX0U4gxB1U

Super changing things again. Come on Saito, Gohan and Gotenks might actually win a fight lol
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on November 29, 2015, 07:56:47 PM
Yeah, the strongest guy Beerus has ever fought, apparently. Hope it's Mr. Popo.

Mighty Mask MK II
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Post by: Bandido on November 30, 2015, 02:47:06 AM
*SIGH* Did they really have to so blatantly change the anime from the movies?
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Post by: mob parker on December 06, 2015, 10:00:39 PM
Gohan won saito lol Trunks and Goten are still weaker than a rusty Gohan who cant hold SSJ for shit. Neither can Gotenks stay fused lol
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Post by: Thanos6 on December 07, 2015, 01:32:24 PM
Have any of you played the new 3DS fighting game, Extreme Butoden?  Part of its story mode adapts the Battle Of Gods story, but changes a few things up, and I think it actually does a better job introducing the whole Saiyan God thing than the movie did!
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Post by: mob parker on December 15, 2015, 10:08:31 PM
(http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/905859/859/87/imageuIjzY.jpg)
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on December 15, 2015, 11:10:04 PM
Oh hey, a new Dragon Quest game.

...waaaait a second..!
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on December 18, 2015, 09:53:09 PM
seriously ppl are following this?
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Post by: mob parker on March 06, 2016, 07:36:31 PM
Piccolo can shit on Gohan now and has caught up to Goku and Vegeta. He trained for a day or two, which is apparently all it takes these days.
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Post by: JookDukem on March 06, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
Piccolo is legit the most racist character Japan ever created.

Na-mek.

Ni-gger.

Illuminati confirmed.
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Post by: DarthAlani on March 06, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
Frost is the Ric Flair of DBS.
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Post by: Thanos6 on March 07, 2016, 06:15:13 AM
Frost is the only character from the new era of Dragonball that I like at all.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on March 07, 2016, 06:34:29 AM
Piccolo can shit on Gohan now and has caught up to Goku and Vegeta. He trained for a day or two, which is apparently all it takes these days.
Piccolo made it clear he can't keep up with either of them.

And also that he wouldn't be spending those days training.

But Piccolo is the most best, soooo
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Post by: mob parker on March 07, 2016, 07:13:55 AM
Piccolo made it clear he can't keep up with either of them.

And also that he wouldn't be spending those days training.

But Piccolo is the most best, soooo

How strong do you think he is compared to them? I think the gaps between them are about where they were before he fused with Kami.

I dont remember exactly what he said but he was training with Gohan when they asked him to join. I guess he did the king kai solo training where he went from weaker than Nappa to thinking he can fight 1st form Freeza.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on March 07, 2016, 10:54:35 AM
How strong do you think he is compared to them? I think the gaps between them are about where they were before he fused with Kami.
Piccolo seemed about even with first form Frost, who was utterly outclassed by whateverthefuckSuperSaiyanmeansnow Goku.

So probably about as powerful as Vegeta/Goku when they're in their base forms.
Quote

I dont remember exactly what he said but he was training with Gohan when they asked him to join. I guess he did the king kai solo training where he went from weaker than Nappa to thinking he can fight 1st form Freeza.
Gohan can barely go SSJ, or something, and is nowhere near his Mystic/Ultimate levels.
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Post by: mob parker on March 07, 2016, 03:05:02 PM
Piccolo seemed about even with first form Frost, who was utterly outclassed by whateverthefuckSuperSaiyanmeansnow Goku.

So probably about as powerful as Vegeta/Goku when they're in their base forms.

Gohan can barely go SSJ, or something, and is nowhere near his Mystic/Ultimate levels.

Goku didnt even try to fight in base for final form Frost like he did with Freeza. He wanted to save SSJ for later. Piccolo planned the fight to go as it did just to trap Frost and beat him with 1 shot.

We dont know how weak Gohan really got. I think he got weak enough in base where using SSJ could get him back to his ultimate level since that he thought when he fought Ginyu.
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Post by: mob parker on March 27, 2016, 12:56:08 PM
Not even Vegeta fought in base vs Frost. In the next episode he still has SSJ blue. I wonder if Cabba lied about having/knowing SSJ or if he unlocks it mid fight. My guess is hes stronger than Vegeta in equal forms and theyre lucky he doesnt have SSJ blue which he could since in his universe all the saiyans are good so it should be easy to do the god ritual.
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Post by: Bandido on March 27, 2016, 03:11:10 PM
Wait, so did Goku and Frost fight?
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Post by: Mightily Oats on March 28, 2016, 04:59:31 AM
Wait, so did Goku and Frost fight?
Briefly.

Frost had a poison tipped thing that knocked him out once pricked with it.

He did the same to Piccolo at the end of their fight (which Frost would have lost otherwise) and the last I saw he was disqualified for cheating so I dunno why Vegeta got to jump in and fight him but w/e.
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Post by: Bandido on March 29, 2016, 05:21:49 AM
Thanks.
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Post by: mob parker on April 03, 2016, 05:30:20 PM
Vegeta said Cabba was about equal to him in base and it seemed so in SSJ as he used SSJB to beat him. He also said he shouldnt have entered the tournament with his base power alone which I take it as Piccolo being stronger than that since he didnt say anything to him about it and lolz at Vegeta caring about other saiyans when he couldve told Goku to use the rosat with the kids again so they can fight too.

The preview for next week has Vegeta losing to Hit and i'm hoping the secret about Monaka is that hes nothing special and Beerus is just using him as motivation for Goku and Vegeta. At least hes stronger than Gohan as he took a hit from base Goku.

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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on April 03, 2016, 05:34:31 PM
So basically it's done to most of Vegeta's team (screw you, Kakarot) vs just Hit.

And I kind of hope Monaka actually is as powerful as Beerus says, but I'm thinking he'll be weak. The guy did pass out mentally from Goku's blast early on.
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Post by: mob parker on April 07, 2016, 02:00:22 AM
Japanese TV Guide has listed summaries for Dragon Ball Super Episodes 38-40 and new Toriyama interview translated.

SPOILERS








Vegeta loses to Hit and Goku fights next and has figured out how Vegeta lost. Hit can skip time 0.1 seconds. So he brings back kaioken to beat him. Toriyama talks about an idea for a story about a certain future related character. How he doesnt plan for Vegeta and Goku to suprass the gods anytime soon and he wanted SSJB to be white instead but it would color clash with the next enemy so hes saving it for later.

Future Trunks? Stronger than Gohan?! lolz Who's next?
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Post by: Thanos6 on April 07, 2016, 03:45:25 PM
Please God please God please God don't have anything to do with the horrible "Time Patrol"/"Supreme Kai Of Time" bullshit from Xenoverse.
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Post by: Bandido on April 07, 2016, 09:41:31 PM
Vegeta beating Cabba, while lecturing him about how strong Saiyans should be and then encouraging to be stronger before while gut checking him with a casual uppercut reminds me why I fell in love with this series.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 10, 2016, 02:44:31 AM
Vegeta beating Cabba, while lecturing him about how strong Saiyans should be and then encouraging to be stronger before while gut checking him with a casual uppercut reminds me why I fell in love with this series.

Agreed, great episode!
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Post by: mob parker on April 10, 2016, 01:05:51 PM
Vegeta nor Piccolo know how to counter the time leap? I was expecting Goku to counter with teleporting/after image/solar flare and Vegeta with aoe attacks. Hit might be slower than base Goku as he got hit by him mid time leap and Vegeta said his movement before the leap was slow. I guess without knowing the intervals between uses of the time leap he could potentially just spam it even if his opponent is stronger/faster as he said. Even Cell was only fooled once by Gokus teleport kameha since he was faster but it should work on Hit since hes not. I wonder if Piccolo is stronger than Hit.
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Post by: Bandido on April 10, 2016, 02:13:13 PM
Hit's ability to be a second forward in time, didn't Sentry have a powerful like that?
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Post by: Gree on April 10, 2016, 05:35:53 PM
Not that I remember. Though I vaguely remember something about his serum and time manipulation.

I really wish we got a better redesign then just blue hair. So many options
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Post by: Bandido on April 10, 2016, 09:59:28 PM
Eh, think of it as a deviantart-palette swap.
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Post by: Gree on April 16, 2016, 01:03:51 PM
Yea it's dumb. How have they advanced Piccolo to keep up power wise?
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Post by: Bandido on April 16, 2016, 03:27:33 PM
Both him and Gohan trained with Whis I believe.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on April 16, 2016, 07:35:45 PM
Yea it's dumb. How have they advanced Piccolo to keep up power wise?
Nothing, from what I saw, and I don't really think he did/does.

Frost was about as powerful as Piccolo, and he was completely outclassed by SSJ Goku and Vegeta.

Oh and I guess base Super Saiyan is a thing, again, because what the fuck ever.
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Post by: mob parker on April 17, 2016, 07:21:02 AM
He said he'd train alone since he couldnt keep up with them in the time chamber. I think in the manga Piccolo says he cant beat Frost and he has a plan to make him work for his win. The fight went like Goku vs Cell.

Goku didnt use any techniques to counter the time skip like I hoped. Kaioken didnt look cool like vs Pikkon and it still showed SSJB aura beneath. The way he explained it was SSJB is more calm and better ki control which is why he can now use kaioken again. The thing is thats how MSSJ was explained when Goku and Gohan left the time chamber. In the end Goku said hes going to end the fight with a kamehameha and had x10 kaioken. He better use the teleport blast and not x20 kaioken blast vs Freeza since the preview for next episode had Hit kicking his ass and he was already adapting to Goku foresight attacks and making his time skip longer.

Either the kaioken boost isnt the same but Goku didnt mention anything being different or Beerus is getting stronger somehow. The numbers Toriyama put out for BOG was like 6/10/15 for SSJG Goku , Beerus and Whis. Also Goku somehow kept kaioken a secret from Vegeta in the time chamber lolz
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Post by: Bandido on April 17, 2016, 03:37:15 PM
Goku bringing back the Kaio-Ken against Hit was a lot of fun and then him using a Kamehameha with the red aura gave me a flashback all the way back to his first fight with Vegeta.

This series, for all its issues (both current and long-running) is still so viscerally satisfying to watch. Needs Falconer music though.
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Post by: mob parker on April 24, 2016, 12:03:18 AM
Goku and Hit give up lolz Monaka wasnt legit or was he?! No Future Trunks  >:(
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Post by: Red Exodus on April 24, 2016, 03:42:16 AM
Despite the few neat ideas this show has, the inexcusable bad animation has all but turned me off to this show.

Like for fuck's sake, how could the original DBZ have better animation than a brand new series from an IP that
is EASILY one of the most massively popular anime world wide.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on April 24, 2016, 01:54:57 PM
Even Pokemon is better animated. Pokemon.
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Post by: altoon on April 24, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
Animation may be step down from DBZ but it's not as bad as your making it out to be.
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Post by: Bandido on April 24, 2016, 03:05:40 PM
I thought the animation for episode 39, with Goku going ssgss Kaio-Ken was done quite well. DBZ was never on the level of One-Punch Man in terms of animation detail, but it still charges kinetic energy into fight scenes like no other anime I've ever seen.
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Post by: Red Exodus on April 24, 2016, 07:06:41 PM
Animation may be step down from DBZ but it's not as bad as your making it out to be.

No its pretty bad. The entire premise of it now is so bonkers.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on April 24, 2016, 08:12:51 PM
The animation is great, but the art style is super streamlined.

Like Justice League was compared to BTAS
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Post by: Bandido on April 24, 2016, 10:16:07 PM
^ Co-Signed.
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Post by: Thanos6 on April 25, 2016, 06:21:06 AM
Goku and Hit give up lolz Monaka wasnt legit or was he?! No Future Trunks  >:(

If that means "no references to Online or Xenoverse," which treated him shamefully bad, I'm actually grateful for that.
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Post by: mob parker on April 26, 2016, 10:05:19 PM
The Dragon Ball Super anime series is giving spoilers of its future episodes. Titles of Episodes 41, 42, 43, 44 and 45 have been released giving DBS fans hints on what to expect in the upcoming installments.








41 – “Come Forth, Dragon of the Gods, and Grant My Wish Pretty Peas!”

42 – “An uproar at the victory celebration! Facing off at last?! Monaka vs. Son Goku”

43 – “Having a Hard Time Taking care of Pan”

44 – “The Secret of the Released Choujinsui”

45 – “The Wonder of Copy Vegeta”
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Post by: mob parker on May 01, 2016, 04:49:38 AM
Omni-King liked the tournament so much, he wants one with contestants from all universes. He could wipe out all 12 universes in the blink of an eye. Cabba invites Vegeta who he calls master now to his saiyan planet Sadal.

Still hope for Future Trunks and Vegeta could have all the saiyans do the god ritual or do whatever secret he did to get it.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on May 01, 2016, 05:04:20 AM
Do you really think Toriyama remembers or cares that he had it be a thing designed exclusively for rituals?

Smh.
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 01, 2016, 07:16:01 AM
The story mode for the most recent 3DS game actually had Future Trunks as the sixth Saiyan instead of Videl/unborn Pan.  It was a lot better.
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Post by: mob parker on May 01, 2016, 07:43:34 AM
Maybe, it depends on how Vegeta got it. There's a fan theory that he had left over "hand energies" god ki from the ritual. But then how the fuck does Cabba base power match Vegeta post time chamber with Goku. 

Tarble wouldve been better too. Hopefully he gets a mention when Vegeta is at Sadal.
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Post by: altoon on May 03, 2016, 06:09:56 PM
Omni-King liked the tournament so much, he wants one with contestants from all universes. He could wipe out all 12 universes in the blink of an eye. Cabba invites Vegeta who he calls master now to his saiyan planet Sadal.

Still hope for Future Trunks and Vegeta could have all the saiyans do the god ritual or do whatever secret he did to get it.

Omni-king should have punished Goku for his insolence. I didn't like how terrified Beerus and Champa was of him and Goku acted so casual around him. There should have been consequences.
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Post by: Bandido on May 03, 2016, 11:31:53 PM
Goku is pretty dumb.
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Post by: mob parker on May 08, 2016, 11:16:58 AM
Classic dumb Goku lol Monaka is the truth.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on May 08, 2016, 12:37:22 PM
it pains me that people like this garbage
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 09, 2016, 02:52:25 AM
It's confirmed, Mirai Trunks is returning: http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/akira-toriyama-reveals-future-trunks-dragon-ball-super-art-saga-happening-june/

Also, the new enemy is someone called "Goku Black."
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Post by: Bandido on May 09, 2016, 04:00:31 AM
It sucks that the anime, the manga and movies aren't lining up, not that they have in the past when it comes to continuity. But now they're all telling slightly different versions of the same story.
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 09, 2016, 04:02:57 AM
As long as it ignores the fucking awful Xenoverse/Supreme Bitch Of Time shit, I'm happy.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on May 09, 2016, 09:27:36 AM
Toriyama is officially worse than George Lucas now
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Post by: mob parker on May 16, 2016, 08:35:39 AM
I hope Pan gets plot power like Trunks and Goten did before they became irrelevant lol
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Post by: mob parker on May 22, 2016, 04:54:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzzSDPbIA5w

Gotenks can still use SSJ3! I thought they had the Gohan treatment barely holding fusion/SSJ.
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Post by: mob parker on May 29, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7WG7PWaLg8

Vegeta tanks everything lol He resists another mind control.
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Post by: mob parker on June 05, 2016, 09:56:34 PM
Vegeta thinks he can still beat Goku after he brought back kaioken which he didnt even use on the copy. lolz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef6Pp6DeaW0

Trunks running for his life again. I hope he has a reason why he didnt wish back the others on his new Namek. I hope he used all his resources this time like the time chamber and harvesting senzu beans.
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Post by: JookDukem on June 06, 2016, 03:21:17 PM
Black Goku isnt even black so this entire series is a waste of time.

Broly or die in a fire.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on June 07, 2016, 08:59:57 PM
(http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/248897/dbz_futuretrunks-jpg.jpg?w=600)

Looks dope
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Post by: Bandido on June 07, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
So, is Black Goku from universe 7?
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on June 07, 2016, 09:27:26 PM
We don't really know the details yet aside from that one preview we saw. I've been looking but it seems like they've managed to keep things under wrapped.
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Post by: Thanos6 on June 09, 2016, 06:11:45 AM
Apparently this may not even be the SAME time-travelling Trunks.  Sure, why not just give us a new one and not the one we've been wanting to see for 20 years or so.
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Post by: Bandido on June 09, 2016, 09:56:24 PM
Apparently this may not even be the SAME time-travelling Trunks.  Sure, why not just give us a new one and not the one we've been wanting to see for 20 years or so.

Ouch. What makes you say this, does he not remember the other characters?
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on June 09, 2016, 11:41:57 PM
New preview confirms that it is in fact, the Future Trunks that warned the Z fighters of the Androids.
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Post by: Bandido on June 10, 2016, 02:33:25 AM
So where did the doubt come from?
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Post by: Thanos6 on June 10, 2016, 06:56:55 AM
The differently colored hair, and him being accompanied by a young Mai when that should be impossible in his universe.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on June 10, 2016, 12:27:45 PM
Yeah there was certainly a lot of doubt and questions before the subbed version of the trailer came out. Thanos6 was not alone in wondering if it was the same Future Trunks. Thankfully (at least I'm thankful about it), it IS the same Future Trunks that warned the Z fighters about the Androids.

Trailer 1- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdFAm8ZwMlA (subbed)
Trailer 2- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcBeno25Iqw (which is more like a traditional trailer)

First episode comes out this weekend.

Here's what we know so far: The enemy is "Black Goku" and he's wearing a potarra earing (fusion earring). Why that is, who knows. Is he about to fuse with someone? Did he already fuse with someone? Unlikely that option since he looks exactly like Goku.

We also know this will bring in Beerus, the Omni King, etc etc. He will be a universal threat.
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Post by: Red Exodus on June 10, 2016, 01:03:51 PM
They couldn't come up with an original villain (even Beerus isn't really a villain in the truest sense)
and since they made Goku so absurdly powerful, the only way to challenge the group now is to
have them fight an evil Goku.

So. Lame.
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Post by: JookDukem on June 10, 2016, 01:05:49 PM
DBZ is easily one of the most shit Anime of all time. Holy shit this is fucking stupid.

Even gay ass Naruto wasn't this shitty.
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Post by: Thanos6 on June 27, 2016, 02:47:48 AM
So I called some of the stuff in the latest episode...in a fanfic I wrote literally almost 15 years ago.  Should I be proud, or ashamed?
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Post by: Bandido on June 27, 2016, 03:54:20 AM
So I called some of the stuff in the latest episode...in a fanfic I wrote literally almost 15 years ago.  Should I be proud, or ashamed?

Maybe you're just from the future of a similar, if alternate timeline.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on June 27, 2016, 11:25:22 AM
So I called some of the stuff in the latest episode...in a fanfic I wrote literally almost 15 years ago.  Should I be proud, or ashamed?

I'd say pretty proud. This saga has been very well-written and epic!
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Post by: Red Exodus on June 27, 2016, 12:31:14 PM
Future Trunks' story is probably the only thing in Dragonball Z to be decently written.

I'd have also said Bardock, but that turned into dogshit the minute they wrote that
retarded "Bardock is the legendary super saiyan" tripe from the 2nd movie featuring him.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on June 27, 2016, 01:06:54 PM
So I called some of the stuff in the latest episode...in a fanfic I wrote literally almost 15 years ago.  Should I be proud, or ashamed?

I'd say pretty proud. This saga has been very well-written and epic!

I'd like it more if they quit trying to push the whole Trunks/Mai (any version of Trunks) thing.  It's weird and creepy.

Also, I hope they don't piss away this opportunity for for Future Trunks to meet more of the characters who debuted after he left, like Goten and Videl.
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Post by: Sarcastic Cat on June 27, 2016, 01:11:23 PM
How can you all stomach this. I see clips on youtube. the animation and character builds are completely different. The fight choreography isn't even the same quality. It's like they just whored out the dragonball name for shits and giggles.



Don't get me wrong Dragonball historically has a shit ton of potholes, but usually the awesomeness can cover it up.

I'll ignore all the story diarrhea and how this is basically just Goku and Vegeta now and everyone else is just useless, but the fights aren't even entertaining anymore. Where is the high octane over the top badassery?!

Future Trunks went from a badass to a pussy, who lost a lot of muscle mass




Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on June 27, 2016, 09:21:52 PM
Future Trunks' story is probably the only thing in Dragonball Z to be decently written.

I'd have also said Bardock, but that turned into dogshit the minute they wrote that
retarded "Bardock is the legendary super saiyan" tripe from the 2nd movie featuring him.
What? Episode of Bardock is a fan film amigo.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on June 28, 2016, 06:32:35 AM
Future Trunks' story is probably the only thing in Dragonball Z to be decently written.

I'd have also said Bardock, but that turned into dogshit the minute they wrote that
retarded "Bardock is the legendary super saiyan" tripe from the 2nd movie featuring him.
What? Episode of Bardock is a fan film amigo.

No it's not.  Unfortunately, it's real.

Sarcastic Cat: You're right, it does suck, which is why I'm not even watching it, just reading episode summaries.
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Post by: Red Exodus on June 28, 2016, 02:13:42 PM
What? Episode of Bardock is a fan film amigo.

Like Thanos6 said, its unfortunately, VERY much real.

Whether its canon or not, I don't know. Last I checked it was. Which is a shame.
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Post by: Bandido on June 28, 2016, 10:39:05 PM
Where did this come from? I've always thought it was fan-made. We are talking about the one with the Frieza-like, "Chill" right?
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Post by: Mightily Oats on June 29, 2016, 12:08:15 AM
I've never heard of it being canonical.
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Post by: Thanos6 on June 29, 2016, 01:01:00 AM
Where did this come from? I've always thought it was fan-made. We are talking about the one with the Frieza-like, "Chill" right?

Chilled.

It's been fan-dubbed, but it's a real thing:

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball:_Episode_of_Bardock
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Post by: JookDukem on June 29, 2016, 02:34:11 AM
Besides fanboy nerd rage what sources have ever said the Bardock movie wasn't canon?

Back when I was a kid and still preciously ignorant of decent storytelling I remember there being a Bardock film I think. If it's the same one you guys are talking about it seems like pure ignorance and fanboyism to claim that movie isn't canon.

The entire Dragon Ball universe is maybe the worst fictional universe ever created. Holy Christ that shit is the fucking worst.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on June 29, 2016, 02:57:11 AM
Besides fanboy nerd rage what sources have ever said the Bardock movie wasn't canon?

Back when I was a kid and still preciously ignorant of decent storytelling I remember there being a Bardock film I think. If it's the same one you guys are talking about it seems like pure ignorance and fanboyism to claim that movie isn't canon.

The entire Dragon Ball universe is maybe the worst fictional universe ever created. Holy Christ that shit is the fucking worst.
The first Bardock movie is canon.

No one is talking about that movie.

The one from the last couple years I had heard something or other about it not being canon, just a What-If type story.

But whether or not that's true, I'm pretty *shrug* about the whole thing.
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Post by: altoon on June 29, 2016, 04:28:14 PM
Yeah I believe he talking about the one where Bardock fights on of Freeza's ancestors . That a fan made thing I believe .

As for Trunks I like he had sense enough to kill Darbura and Babba dee before they could release Buu.  To bad he doesn't have no one in his time to spare with to increase his strength more.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Kallor on June 29, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
It's not fan-made, it is an official published short manga with an accompanying anime adaptation.  It apparently came from a what-if scenario in a Dragon Ball video game.  It is not canon and Toriyama didn't write it.
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Post by: Ditto on June 29, 2016, 05:25:51 PM
It's not fanmade. It's been featured in several "official" dragon Ball forms of media. It's stupid as fuck, though.
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Post by: BillyRunsThingsSon on June 29, 2016, 06:03:09 PM
I really enjoyed SSJ3 Goku vs SSJ2 Trunks.  SICK!!!!
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Bandido on June 29, 2016, 09:53:07 PM
So it's not canon, who cares about it then... I mean, don't get me wrong, it's animated well enough, but Bardock: The Father of Goku is probably my favorite DBZ story and I think it's best if left alone. When the dvd also paired it with "History of Trunks", I bought it right quick.
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Post by: altoon on July 18, 2016, 10:55:54 AM
Trunk basically confirms that Gohan is weaker now that he was at the end of the Cell games.
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Post by: Todd on October 18, 2016, 06:59:33 PM
Gonna need the ssjb fusion to stop black goku and zamasu  :o
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Post by: Mightily Oats on October 18, 2016, 07:03:08 PM
Gonna need the ssjb fusion to stop black goku and zamasu  :o
Me and my buddy were talking about that.

Make Gogeta canon...

Then have the same thing happen that happened with SSJ4, in that they will unfuse before they can win, and then win anyways
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Post by: Todd on October 18, 2016, 07:10:15 PM
They dont know the dance to make gogeta. Itll be vegito due to the potarra ear rings if they go that route. Its gotten good. And the zamasu/zamasu relationship is creepy.
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Post by: Bandido on October 18, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
They dont know the dance to make gogeta. Itll be vegito due to the potarra ear rings if they go that route. Its gotten good. And the zamasu/zamasu relationship is creepy.

Vegito is more powerful anyway - No time limit to the fusion or ki limit.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Todd on October 23, 2016, 03:13:15 AM
Damn vegeta fuckstomped goku black. He is pretty far above goku at this point now.
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Mightily Oats on October 23, 2016, 03:42:14 AM
Damn vegeta fuckstomped goku black. He is pretty far above goku at this point now.
This better not be a fucking joke.
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Post by: Todd on October 23, 2016, 03:45:59 AM
Damn vegeta fuckstomped goku black. He is pretty far above goku at this point now.
This better not be a fucking joke.
Its not. New episode with subs is up on gogoanime. Black didnt stand a chance. Vegeta was toying with him while stomping his ass. Zamasu fuses next episode. Vegeta blew up the rosat from the inside from his power up.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on October 23, 2016, 03:47:39 AM
Damn vegeta fuckstomped goku black. He is pretty far above goku at this point now.
This better not be a fucking joke.
Its not. New episode with subs is up on gogoanime. Black didnt stand a chance. Vegeta was toying with him while stomping his ass. Zamasu fuses next episode. Vegeta blew up the rosat from the inside from his power up.
When did Vegeta get a power up?

Goku also didn't use the Kaioken against Black/Zamasu
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Post by: Todd on October 23, 2016, 03:59:07 AM
Damn vegeta fuckstomped goku black. He is pretty far above goku at this point now.
This better not be a fucking joke.
Its not. New episode with subs is up on gogoanime. Black didnt stand a chance. Vegeta was toying with him while stomping his ass. Zamasu fuses next episode. Vegeta blew up the rosat from the inside from his power up.
When did Vegeta get a power up?

Goku also didn't use the Kaioken against Black/Zamasu
They got thier asses kicked by black and zamasu 2x. This last time they came back he went into the rosat for half a day(6 months). He overheard bulma saying goku would save everyone and apparently it pissed him off. Goku probably cant use the kaioken again it almost killed him... and it didnt even beat hit. When you see the episode you will see the power level gap. Even black is like wtf shit. Vegeta talks down to him while beatcrushing him casually.
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Post by: Todd on October 30, 2016, 02:00:06 AM
Black and zamasu used potara fusion. Not much happened in the episode.
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Post by: Bandido on October 30, 2016, 04:25:18 AM
Damn vegeta fuckstomped goku black. He is pretty far above goku at this point now.
This better not be a fucking joke.
Its not. New episode with subs is up on gogoanime. Black didnt stand a chance. Vegeta was toying with him while stomping his ass. Zamasu fuses next episode. Vegeta blew up the rosat from the inside from his power up.
When did Vegeta get a power up?

Goku also didn't use the Kaioken against Black/Zamasu
They got thier asses kicked by black and zamasu 2x. This last time they came back he went into the rosat for half a day(6 months). He overheard bulma saying goku would save everyone and apparently it pissed him off. Goku probably cant use the kaioken again it almost killed him... and it didnt even beat hit. When you see the episode you will see the power level gap. Even black is like wtf shit. Vegeta talks down to him while beatcrushing him casually.

About time Vegeta got his props.
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Post by: XerxesTWD on October 30, 2016, 10:42:59 AM
Vegeta has been doing great in Super. He did better against Beerus than SSJ3 Goku did in the first new movie, too.
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Post by: Kallor on October 30, 2016, 12:12:58 PM
So what happened with Trunks new form? 

kotaku.com/dragon-ball-super-gets-another-new-form-1787611623
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: XerxesTWD on October 30, 2016, 12:24:24 PM
Just being near him killed Yamcha.
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Post by: Kallor on October 30, 2016, 12:53:32 PM
Sounds awesome.
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Post by: Gree on October 30, 2016, 01:19:17 PM
Gonna need the ssjb fusion to stop black goku and zamasu  :o
Me and my buddy were talking about that.

Make Gogeta canon...

Then have the same thing happen that happened with SSJ4, in that they will unfuse before they can win, and then win anyways

Vegito is cooler
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Post by: Todd on October 30, 2016, 01:27:50 PM
So what happened with Trunks new form? 

kotaku.com/dragon-ball-super-gets-another-new-form-1787611623
he was able to hold off black and zamasu for a day but got beat badly in the end. Hes pretty powerful but you get the impression they were toying with him the whole time.

Zamasu is probably a little above ssj2 power wise but his immortality is keeping him upright. Black on the other hand is above ssb goku and vegeta until vegeta got his power up. Black after that ass beating has now unlocked more powers and can rip a hole in space/time(thats just what he assumes) and can make clones of himself. They are easily destroyed but they keep reforming. Even with his new power up black never tried to directly attack vegeta again as you get the impression he wanted no more. Zamasu was sealed in the mafuba jar by trunks but goku forgot the seal in the past, so he escaped and when he re emerged he was severly weakened so him and black fused. Show ends with fused zamasu being bad ass.
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Post by: Gree on October 30, 2016, 02:12:34 PM
He looks really cool
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Post by: Bandido on October 30, 2016, 10:14:42 PM
How did Vegeta get his new power up? It's not a new transformation right? So is it a Kaio Ken type thing? Good old fashioned training montage?
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Post by: Strange on October 30, 2016, 10:50:09 PM
Training
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Post by: Kallor on October 31, 2016, 12:33:59 AM
How did Vegeta get his new power up? It's not a new transformation right? So is it a Kaio Ken type thing? Good old fashioned training montage?

Not a new transformation, more like Goku on the way to Namek training in 100 times earth's gravity, or actually just like Vegeta training in the spirit room after Android 18 whooped him and Vegeta emerging strong enough to beat Imperfect Cell.
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Post by: Bandido on October 31, 2016, 03:00:36 AM
This fills me with glee. As soon a Funimation releases the dub with the Falconer music leveling Vegeta up, I may go Super Saiyan myself.
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Post by: Gree on October 31, 2016, 03:57:13 PM
Where/when can I watch this in HD
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Post by: Kallor on October 31, 2016, 04:46:58 PM
Where/when can I watch this in HD

Crunchyroll simulcasts the new episodes and they have 1-10 and 47-63 (latest) up, with 11-20 in a week and ten more eps every week after.  No, I don't know why they are doing that.
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Post by: Todd on October 31, 2016, 05:24:09 PM
Gogoanime has them as well.
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Post by: Bandido on October 31, 2016, 10:55:16 PM
Gree do yourself a favor and wait.

EDIT: Or just watch the fights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52z1525LBBQ
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Post by: Mightily Oats on November 03, 2016, 07:44:54 PM
Yeah I just watch the subtitled fights when I bother to watch
Title: Re: Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 1 english
Post by: Thanos6 on November 03, 2016, 10:05:53 PM
I still can't get over how bad this show is treating most of the cast, characterization wise.
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Post by: Bandido on November 04, 2016, 11:35:55 PM
I'll admit that the continuity has stunted much of the side characters' development, but I think the main two protagonists (Goku and Vegeta) have been represented well.

Also Funimation has Production of the English Dub:
http://www.funimation.com/blog/2016/11/04/dragon-ball-super-subtitled-episodes-begin-streaming-today-on-funimationnow-with-new-simulcast-episodes-starting-november-5-2016/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=112016-fn-dragonballsuper&utm_source=Facebook&utm_content=announcement&utm_nooverride=1
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Post by: Thanos6 on November 05, 2016, 06:22:46 AM
But the supporting cast is way more interesting! :(
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Post by: Todd on November 05, 2016, 09:24:37 PM
Vegito confirmed for next episode. Merged zamasu one shotted both ssb goku and vegeta.
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Post by: Bandido on November 05, 2016, 10:40:03 PM
They should both be >>> Beerus now. But you know, DBZ math or whatever...
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Post by: Strange on November 06, 2016, 02:38:25 AM
Vegito confirmed for next episode. Merged zamasu one shotted both ssb goku and vegeta.

Initially, but then Goku, Trunks, and Vegeta rallied and put up a good performance. Even pushing back his holy attack back at him. Weird that Trunks is able to jump his power to match SSB Goku and Vegeta's level but am okay with it at the same time. Definitely some Hulk-ness going on in this arc. The suggestion isn't just that they are tapping into their inner reserve but actually getting stronger with their anger. Vegeta and Trunks are the father/son duo Goku and Gohan wished  they could be.
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Post by: Thanos6 on November 06, 2016, 05:47:01 AM
Vegito confirmed for next episode. Merged zamasu one shotted both ssb goku and vegeta.

Initially, but then Goku, Trunks, and Vegeta rallied and put up a good performance. Even pushing back his holy attack back at him. Weird that Trunks is able to jump his power to match SSB Goku and Vegeta's level but am okay with it at the same time. Definitely some Hulk-ness going on in this arc. The suggestion isn't just that they are tapping into their inner reserve but actually getting stronger with their anger. Vegeta and Trunks are the father/son duo Goku and Gohan wished  they could be.

At least they're doing something right and making up for the end of the Cell Saga where Goku and Gohan just pulled power out of their asses.
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Post by: Kallor on November 06, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
Do you guys think Trunks powerup from a few episodes back was him getting SS Blue?  He had the blue aura and is now matching Goku/Vegeta's level as you say.  Maybe the different look is due to his hybrid nature, or just because his hair is already blue and they needed to differentiate it.
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Post by: Gree on November 06, 2016, 09:34:19 AM
Vegito confirmed for next episode. Merged zamasu one shotted both ssb goku and vegeta.

OMG Vegito.


Vegito blue will be a monster. Hope he gets an outfit redesign
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Post by: Todd on November 06, 2016, 02:32:42 PM
Do you guys think Trunks powerup from a few episodes back was him getting SS Blue?  He had the blue aura and is now matching Goku/Vegeta's level as you say.  Maybe the different look is due to his hybrid nature, or just because his hair is already blue and they needed to differentiate it.
no. He isnt even on ssb goku/vegeta level. He is just a powered up ss3 with a rage boost.
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Post by: Todd on November 06, 2016, 02:33:45 PM
Vegito confirmed for next episode. Merged zamasu one shotted both ssb goku and vegeta.

OMG Vegito.


Vegito blue will be a monster. Hope he gets an outfit redesign
preview showed him to be in original outfit. Seemed to be kicking god zamasu ass too.
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Post by: DarthAlani on November 06, 2016, 02:58:32 PM
Can't wait for the next episode.
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Post by: Kallor on November 06, 2016, 07:34:50 PM
Do you guys think Trunks powerup from a few episodes back was him getting SS Blue?  He had the blue aura and is now matching Goku/Vegeta's level as you say.  Maybe the different look is due to his hybrid nature, or just because his hair is already blue and they needed to differentiate it.
no. He isnt even on ssb goku/vegeta level. He is just a powered up ss3 with a rage boost.

Why do you think he's ss3?
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Post by: Todd on November 06, 2016, 08:21:44 PM
Do you guys think Trunks powerup from a few episodes back was him getting SS Blue?  He had the blue aura and is now matching Goku/Vegeta's level as you say.  Maybe the different look is due to his hybrid nature, or just because his hair is already blue and they needed to differentiate it.
no. He isnt even on ssb goku/vegeta level. He is just a powered up ss3 with a rage boost.

Why do you think he's ss3?
feel free to read through 470 pages, but its in there in depth.
   http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=30781&start=9380
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Post by: Bandido on November 07, 2016, 01:25:33 AM

At least they're doing something right and making up for the end of the Cell Saga where Goku and Gohan just pulled power out of their asses.

Yup, I almost would prefer a Vegeta and Trunk fusion, considering Trunks has had the most stake being lost in this.
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Post by: JookDukem on November 07, 2016, 03:16:30 PM
HAHAHA. This series is so fucking bad I am legitimately enjoying it.

Wow the entire shit is bad. Like, the whole shit.

It's impressive.

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Post by: Strange on November 07, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
Do you guys think Trunks powerup from a few episodes back was him getting SS Blue?  He had the blue aura and is now matching Goku/Vegeta's level as you say.  Maybe the different look is due to his hybrid nature, or just because his hair is already blue and they needed to differentiate it.

He isn't SSB imo. It is either a new form or they were like "meh" with it all and just had him power himself up without taking a new form. They are definitely playing around with the angrier/stronger dynamic. Trunks and Black Zammy boosted their levels considerably when harnessing their anger. From a battleboard perspective, it makes him a bit more impressive than Vegeta and Goku to be able to boost himself up to their SSB level just like that too.
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Post by: Bandido on November 07, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
Eh - ssj2 Vegeta hurt Beerus when Bulma was threatened. Like Father, like son.
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Post by: Todd on November 07, 2016, 11:30:05 PM
Eh - ssj2 Vegeta hurt Beerus when Bulma was threatened. Like Father, like son.
hurt beerus is a long shot. More like surprised him. He slapped vegeta down after the initial onslaught.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on November 08, 2016, 01:26:22 AM
Eh - ssj2 Vegeta hurt Beerus when Bulma was threatened. Like Father, like son.
hurt beerus is a long shot. More like surprised him. He slapped vegeta down after the initial onslaught.
He did something.

No one else did.
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Post by: Thanos6 on November 08, 2016, 07:53:42 PM
I hope at some point before this arc is over, Future Trunks gets to meet Goten.
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Post by: Todd on November 08, 2016, 10:25:40 PM
I hope at some point before this arc is over, Future Trunks gets to meet Goten.
didnt he already when he went to the past? I think i remember him meeting younger trunks and goten.
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Post by: Ditto on November 09, 2016, 06:44:41 AM
I hope at some point before this arc is over, Future Trunks gets to meet Goten.
didnt he already when he went to the past? I think i remember him meeting younger trunks and goten.

Goten wasn't introduced until the majin buu arc.
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Post by: Todd on November 09, 2016, 04:45:14 PM
I hope at some point before this arc is over, Future Trunks gets to meet Goten.
didnt he already when he went to the past? I think i remember him meeting younger trunks and goten.

Goten wasn't introduced until the majin buu arc.
yes but trunks went to the past again in super to get vegeta and goku. Im pretty sure he met him.
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Post by: Ditto on November 09, 2016, 05:45:44 PM
Sorry, I misunderstood.  I assumed you meant during the cell saga.

Goten wasn't around. It all took place at capsule corp where kid trunks and pilaf and pals were the only little ones present.
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Post by: Bandido on November 09, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
Is Goten much of a presence in Super?
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Post by: Todd on November 10, 2016, 12:09:17 PM
Is Goten much of a presence in Super?
hes seen flying around with trunks. Doing nothing mostly.
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Post by: Thanos6 on November 10, 2016, 06:24:42 PM
Yeah, Goten needs to see what his future husband will look like when he grows up.

(Fuck that Mai shit. Trunks/Goten FTW)
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Post by: Mightily Oats on November 12, 2016, 04:12:37 AM
Yeah, Goten needs to see what his future husband will look like when he grows up.

(Fuck that Mai shit. Trunks/Goten FTW)
they won't mirai marry you sack of miraishit
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on November 12, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
where broly fuck dis shit
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Post by: Todd on November 12, 2016, 04:24:12 PM
where broly fuck dis shit
he is from another universe.
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Post by: Bandido on November 12, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
Episode 66 is up on Crunchy Roll!
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Post by: Bandido on November 13, 2016, 12:05:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg5FghmV_cA

So, Retcon with the Potarra earnings'-fusion, any persons not a Kai will only remain fused for an hour. Vegito burns through the energy even faster than that, though did appear to have the upper-hand on Merged Zamasu before separating and being dunked on. Trunk then vanquishes the villain by re-forging the Z-Sword and then getting the planet's energy flowed into him by the remaining population and his comrades.

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Post by: Kallor on November 13, 2016, 12:50:04 AM
Trunks keeps up with Vegeta and Goku pretty well, I'm still thinking the blue aura power up was him going SSB.  Toriyama is just an idiot and didn't know what to do about the fact Trunks regular hair color is now blue.
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Post by: Strange on November 13, 2016, 12:33:00 PM
I am glad they had Trunks ultimately defeat Zammy.
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Post by: Kallor on November 13, 2016, 01:55:40 PM
I am glad they had Trunks ultimately defeat Zammy.

Yeah, I was happy with it as well.  He deserved the moment.
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Post by: Gree on November 13, 2016, 04:26:27 PM
What a stupid retcon. The whole purpose of the potato fusion was supposed to be a perfect permanent fusion. It was retconned into the fusion dance
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Post by: Todd on November 13, 2016, 04:53:40 PM
Havent gotten to see it yet but how did they get around zamasus immortality?
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Post by: Ditto on November 13, 2016, 05:05:56 PM
Havent gotten to see it yet but how did they get around zamasus immortality?

Being mixed with Black made him mortal again, basically.
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Post by: Ditto on November 13, 2016, 05:06:45 PM
What a stupid retcon. The whole purpose of the potato fusion was supposed to be a perfect permanent fusion. It was retconned into the fusion dance

Yeah, that was fucking stupid. Only it lasts an hour instead of 30 minutes.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on November 13, 2016, 05:50:18 PM
These sorts of dumb, half-assed retcons have always been a part of Dragonball

Still pretty fucken dumb
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Post by: Kallor on November 13, 2016, 07:03:04 PM
Havent gotten to see it yet but how did they get around zamasus immortality?

Being mixed with Black made him mortal again, basically.

Yeah I wasn't too clear on this because I am still catching up on back episodes, but I thought they were both immortal due to shenron wishes.  Now they're saying Black is mortal and fusing with immortal Zamasu made the fusion capable of being killed.
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Post by: Gree on November 13, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
Lol potato fusion
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Post by: Ditto on November 13, 2016, 09:40:36 PM
Havent gotten to see it yet but how did they get around zamasus immortality?

Being mixed with Black made him mortal again, basically.

Yeah I wasn't too clear on this because I am still catching up on back episodes, but I thought they were both immortal due to shenron wishes.  Now they're saying Black is mortal and fusing with immortal Zamasu made the fusion capable of being killed.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they addressed it earlier with zamasu asking black why he doesn't just wish for immortality as well and him basically saying "with the power that comes with this body, I am basically immortal."
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Post by: Gree on January 21, 2017, 11:51:57 AM
Where can I watch Super Dubbed?
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Post by: Todd on January 21, 2017, 06:59:17 PM
Cruchyroll or gogoanime
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Post by: Bandido on January 22, 2017, 01:17:20 AM
Or Adult Swim/Toonami.
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Post by: Gree on January 22, 2017, 09:41:42 AM
For those with Apple TV or streaming services?
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on January 23, 2017, 04:38:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W48sOjjXxrQ

Broly's canon and a girl. One of the Gods of Destruction and his attendant are Joker and Harley Quinn expies.
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Post by: LiquidSailor on January 23, 2017, 06:26:36 AM
Wait so how is he cannon if he is now a she?
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Post by: Mightily Oats on January 23, 2017, 07:35:58 AM
Saitou doesn't know what canon means
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on January 23, 2017, 09:04:01 AM
Ok, so LSSJ is canon, but the design is more or less a female Broly.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on January 23, 2017, 10:53:32 AM
A pretty clearly inspired by Broly female character was briefly seen in the teaser.

That's all the information we have to go off.

Stop slapping the word canon onto shit.
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Post by: Gree on January 23, 2017, 11:39:09 AM
My arms were once described as canon
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on February 05, 2017, 10:36:59 PM
Were those real planets the two Omni-Kings were playing with in their little game?
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Post by: Todd on February 06, 2017, 09:38:19 PM
Were those real planets the two Omni-Kings were playing with in their little game?
yes. Psychotic.
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Post by: Thanos6 on February 07, 2017, 04:42:41 AM
That's one of many problems I have with Super:  I remember when destroying planets meant you were a bad guy.
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on February 18, 2017, 08:06:07 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Herms98/status/832741093015842819

Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Goku confirmed.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on February 18, 2017, 08:23:55 PM
Which was pretty fucking blatant for anyone that isn't a fucking idiot
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Post by: Kallor on February 18, 2017, 10:14:19 PM
I know there was a huge debate about that, but I still don't understand how.  As Oats said, it was rather obvious.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on February 18, 2017, 10:54:29 PM
Just like people deciding Kid Buu was the most powerful Buu.

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Post by: Ramz on February 20, 2017, 11:52:16 PM
I wonder when Goku will beat up Gohan.
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on February 26, 2017, 05:39:56 AM
Gohan and Lavender fight to a draw. Great Priest reveals that U7 and U9 are the bottom two universes in terms of average mortal level, and that Omni-King was always going to weed out the weaker universes, and Goku's tournament just gave him an excuse to do it. U1, U5, U8, and U12 are exempt from competing because their average is the highest. The Kaioshins and the Gods of Destruction will be destroyed along with their universes, however the angels will be spared. Goku vs Bergamo is up next.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on February 26, 2017, 12:42:35 PM
I wonder when Goku will beat up Gohan.

After the black Saiyans arc
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Post by: Strange on March 05, 2017, 02:53:30 PM
So, the other universes are definitely looking at Goku like he is a piece of shit and are directly blaming him for the upcoming annihilation of the losing universes. And he basically is.

The fight will be a legit Royal Rumble too.
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Post by: Thanos6 on March 06, 2017, 02:44:24 PM
I remember when the DB gods used to be wise and benevolent.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on March 06, 2017, 08:31:43 PM
I remember when the DB gods used to be wise and benevolent.
And weak as shit

Don't forget weak as shit
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on March 06, 2017, 08:37:50 PM
They pale in comparison to Goku's depravity
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Post by: altoon on March 07, 2017, 02:31:53 PM
So, the other universes are definitely looking at Goku like he is a piece of shit and are directly blaming him for the upcoming annihilation of the losing universes. And he basically is.

Well Goku is a asshole but if he wasn't an idiot he would point out the universes were gonna be destroyed anyway they now all have a fighting chance.
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Post by: mob parker on April 07, 2017, 04:35:33 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Herms98/status/832741093015842819

Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Goku confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iMmtKHupE

Krillin > Ultimate Gohan confirmed!
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on April 10, 2017, 09:48:19 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/Herms98/status/832741093015842819

Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Goku confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1iMmtKHupE

Krillin > Ultimate Gohan confirmed!

Losing by ring-out while blinded and out-of-shape < struggling even with SSB.
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Post by: Bandido on April 10, 2017, 02:22:07 PM
That's the saddest thing I've seen all day.
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Post by: altoon on April 10, 2017, 04:42:48 PM
So, the other universes are definitely looking at Goku like he is a piece of shit and are directly blaming him for the upcoming annihilation of the losing universes. And he basically is.

Well Goku is a asshole but if he wasn't an idiot he would point out the universes were gonna be destroyed anyway they now all have a fighting chance.

One of the other gods of destructions finally pointed that out this week.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on April 11, 2017, 12:20:53 AM
Whatever, I'm justing waiting for Broly w/tits
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on April 30, 2017, 02:33:49 AM
So episode 88 is Piccolo getting Gohan back into shape. Piccolo beats the shit out of Gohan in training and chastises him for his personality flaws that allowed his previous opponents to beat him, like being too concerned about protecting everybody, and his tendency to let his guard down because he's too overconfident in his power and thinking that the fight is over when it's not. He then motivates Gohan into getting his Ultimate form back, but when Gohan eases up after Piccolo fakes admitted defeat, Piccolo sucker punches him. Afterwards, Piccolo offers to raise Gohan's power more in the remaining time, and Gohan proposes tag team attacks for the tournament.

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Post by: altoon on April 30, 2017, 01:04:18 PM
Well he got his mystic Gohan power lvl back and is back to were he was during the Buu saga.  I still wonder can he go some form of SS when he's like that.
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on May 02, 2017, 08:44:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/i6YDWPS.jpg

Quote
Witness the father-son showdown! In “Dragon Ball Super”, after finishing his training, Gohan challenges Gokuu!
Title: Facing the Wall that Must be Overcome! Gokuu VS Gohan
Gohan & Piccolo VS Gokuu and Tenshinhan?!
Through his training with Piccolo, Gohan came to realize that the one he must surpass is his father Gokuu. So he teams up with Piccolo and they take on the duo of Gokuu and Tenshinhan! Facing Gohan, who having finished his training has now obtained unprecedented power, Gokuu will…?!
Gohan, surpass your father!!
The method Piccolo pointed out is?!
Through Piccolo’s training, both Gohan’s power and will were strengthened!
Watch out for Tenshinhan, who fights using peculiar attacks!
His allies are shocked at the change in Gohan!
Gokuu this week: Seeing his son’s growth?!
Gokuu is surprised at how Gohan has changed, and cannot hide how elated he is that another powerful ally has appeared. After the team battle, he challenges Gohan to a one on one fight?!

Gohan is SO going to whup Goku's ass.
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Post by: ProjectCornDog on May 02, 2017, 09:07:05 AM
I like Gohan but I don't like a stronger than  Goku Gohan
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Post by: XerxesTWD on May 02, 2017, 09:09:00 AM
Hopefully Piccolo taught him some fighting mentality that will stick. No point in Gohan being stronger if he'll just get soft again.
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Post by: altoon on May 02, 2017, 09:31:37 AM
Yeah he's already gotten best twice by ppl weaker than him
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Post by: Mightily Oats on May 02, 2017, 09:47:01 AM
I like Gohan but I don't like a stronger than  Goku Gohan
Sooo you don't like Gohan?
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Post by: Red Exodus on May 03, 2017, 12:22:56 PM
This show is officially worse than GT. Krillin beating Gohan by any degree is inexcusable.

And don't get me started on the Android 17 fighting evenly with a Super Saiyan Blue Goku
bullshit. Like what the flying fuck with this. This show's level of retardation is beyond any
other Shonen show in existence. Even worse than BLEACH for crying out loud.
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 03, 2017, 04:32:08 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Super is right there in the non-canon file with GT.
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on May 03, 2017, 10:01:08 PM
Nothing is worse than Bleach!!!

And I can buy Krillin winning. He won by the rules, he was smarter, and Gohan hasn't been training forever.

Besides, we got Mystic Gohan back.

My only problem is--Vegeta should be stronger than Goku. Goku was stronger because he  was "pure of heart and innocent" Now he's a frickin' jerk who openly doesn't care about his family. Vegeta is actually the one who cares about people and actually wants to be around his family.

I demand Vegeta take over as the star!!! :)
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 03, 2017, 10:58:44 PM
It's sad when the guy with a history of genocide is a better dad than your show's "main hero."

(Also, they need to ditch the whole Mai bullshit and just pair Trunks up with Goten already. They have better chemistry than most of the straight couples)
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Post by: Mightily Oats on May 03, 2017, 11:18:08 PM
Nothing is worse than Bleach!!!

And I can buy Krillin winning. He won by the rules, he was smarter, and Gohan hasn't been training forever.

Besides, we got Mystic Gohan back.

My only problem is--Vegeta should be stronger than Goku. Goku was stronger because he  was "pure of heart and innocent" Now he's a frickin' jerk who openly doesn't care about his family. Vegeta is actually the one who cares about people and actually wants to be around his family.

I demand Vegeta take over as the star!!! :)
That wasn't why Goku was stronger
It's sad when the guy with a history of genocide is a better dad than your show's "main hero."
Like Piccolo, Vegeta went through something called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

As much as people hate that
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Post by: JookDukem on May 04, 2017, 02:01:36 AM
Hahahaha you want a real Manga/Manwha look no further than Ares. The best shit from that genre hands down.

Dragonball is the worst shit ever.
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Post by: Bandido on May 04, 2017, 02:29:20 AM
Nothing is worse than Bleach!!!

And I can buy Krillin winning. He won by the rules, he was smarter, and Gohan hasn't been training forever.

Besides, we got Mystic Gohan back.

My only problem is--Vegeta should be stronger than Goku. Goku was stronger because he  was "pure of heart and innocent" Now he's a frickin' jerk who openly doesn't care about his family. Vegeta is actually the one who cares about people and actually wants to be around his family.

I demand Vegeta take over as the star!!! :)
He's become more a compliment than in DBZ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6qr6qxwOMY

He dis better than Goku vs Black. His rage allowed his SSj2 form to surpass Goku's SSj3 Plus, just his character development in the series makes him my hero. Staying with Bulma over training to fight, that's a character to arc to be in awe of.
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Post by: altoon on May 04, 2017, 02:54:08 PM
It seems like they've been going out of there way to make Goku seem more of an asshole than he really is.  I mean when Vegeta said he couldn't come train because Bulma was pregnant his response of "Why your not the one pregnant" seemed out of character to me.
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Post by: Panthergod on May 04, 2017, 03:01:00 PM
Goku is dumb.
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Post by: JookDukem on May 04, 2017, 06:01:15 PM
Goku and Black Goku switched somehow.
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on May 04, 2017, 06:33:01 PM
It seems like they've been going out of there way to make Goku seem more of an asshole than he really is.  I mean when Vegeta said he couldn't come train because Bulma was pregnant his response of "Why your not the one pregnant" seemed out of character to me.

Hey, he's been at his worse in Super. But then this isn't out of character. He has constantly put training over his family and when a threat happens "well we can bring them back with the dragon balls."
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Post by: Mightily Oats on May 04, 2017, 09:54:40 PM
It seems like they've been going out of there way to make Goku seem more of an asshole than he really is.  I mean when Vegeta said he couldn't come train because Bulma was pregnant his response of "Why your not the one pregnant" seemed out of character to me.
That's only out of character with your idea of what a main character hero should be, possibly.

But for Goku?

Not even a little bit.
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 04, 2017, 11:37:09 PM
Goku was always an asshole, but he wasn't always this much of an asshole.
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on May 05, 2017, 01:12:16 AM
Hey, at least he didn't demand the stronger universes join the tournament. :)

Also, Goku's jerkassness is easier to see now that you have Vegeta being a pretty decent guy. It's just that everyone else has moved on or grown and he's having a midlife crisis.
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Post by: altoon on May 05, 2017, 02:54:55 PM
Goku was always an asshole, but he wasn't always this much of an asshole.

They crank up is how much of an asshole he is slightly .It seems worse and is much more noticeable because of how reasonable everyone else is.  Even the god of destruction.
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Post by: Thanos6 on May 05, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
Goku was always an asshole, but he wasn't always this much of an asshole.

They crank up is how much of an asshole he is slightly .It seems worse and is much more noticeable because of how reasonable everyone else is.  Even the god of destruction.

No, don't get me started on that.  All the new gods they've introduced have been monsters.
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on May 08, 2017, 07:25:47 AM
So apparently there's going to be a big roster change for Universe 7's team in the Tournament of Power (SPOILERS):

Buu falls asleep and won't wake up for months. Goku decides to recruit Frieza from Hell much to his team's objections.
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on May 13, 2017, 08:58:35 PM
Episode 90: Tien gets clowned again and was useless in the tag match. Goku beats Gohan, but was pushed into using Blue and Kaioken.
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Post by: mob parker on May 14, 2017, 07:45:08 AM
Gohan got shit on as expected and Goku didnt need Blue he fought in SSJ2 the whole time and only used full power when Gohan wouldnt stop begging him to take it serious lol Congratulations he caught up to future Trunks pre Rage level when he fought Goku way back. Krillin also "pushed" Goku to Blue lol Only 17 actually fought Goku for reals

17 > Gohan confirmed! Since people like to use promo shit here.  "surpassing the ultimate" > Gohan

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2017/04/14/new-toei-animation-dragon-ball-super-universe-survival-arc-promotional-video-highlights-17/

The mightiest Artificial Human,
Who once
Was created to defeat Goku
Will have a miraculous encounter…
Artificial Human No. 17 joins the fray in the Tournament of Power!!!!
After a decade-plus,
His power,
His speed,
Everything is now Super!!!!
~His power, surpassing the ultimate, is now revealed~
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Post by: Saitou Hajime on May 14, 2017, 08:05:07 AM
Unlike 17, Gohan actually landed hits on SSB Goku,shrugged off a hit, which was why Goku had to go Kaioken. And this was with just 4 1/2 hours of training. Trunks got owned effortlessly by both SSJ3 Goku and SSB Vegeta, so comparing him to Gohan is laughable.
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Post by: mob parker on May 14, 2017, 08:18:45 AM
Unlike Gohan, Krillin pushed back Gokus kamehameha and didnt beg for Blue he actually "needed" it to win. I wonder if 18 is also > Gohan since she kicked away the blast. More promo/bs, in the manga Goku needed Red to beat Trunks and he took hits from Vegeta in blue who didnt fuck around like Goku did. Gohan knew better than to go challenge Vegeta if he thought he was really on their level.

Now that I think about it Ultimate being SSJ2 tier makes sense since Vegeta was still #2. Promo/bs Goku didnt need SSJ3 to beat Gohan  in Buus body and Vegeta beat Gotenks.
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Post by: Ramz on May 15, 2017, 10:53:20 PM
Goku was always an asshole, but he wasn't always this much of an asshole.

Goku, having the entire universe begging him to save them, is an asshole because he has to train instead of raise a family? Yea, ok.  Vegeta has the luxury of chilling with his wife because he fucking sucks. What else is he needed for besides sippin' margaritas and banging senoritas?
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Post by: XerxesTWD on May 15, 2017, 11:51:44 PM
Vegeta has the luxury of chilling with his wife because he's banging the richest woman in the world and he still manages to train hard as fuck.


Goku's broke ass married a princess and has to eat like a college student.
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Post by: mob parker on May 21, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
the narrator said gohan rivaled goku and the gohan of old has returned. getting one shotted is rivaling now lol

mystic gohan rivaled ssj3 goku confirmed!

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Post by: XerxesTWD on May 21, 2017, 04:43:07 PM
the narrator said gohan rivaled goku and the gohan of old has returned. getting one shotted is rivaling now lol

mystic gohan rivaled ssj3 goku confirmed!

Gohan being an idiot loser definitely sounds like the Gohan of old.
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Post by: Ramz on May 22, 2017, 10:11:41 PM
How many idiots say they are better than Goku but end up losing to Goku? Oh ya, all the idiots.
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Post by: mob parker on June 04, 2017, 10:03:57 AM
"If Frieza betrays us, me or Vegeta will defeat him."  Gohan SSJ2 tier confirmed!
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Post by: Gree on June 09, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
What is Trunks doing now
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Post by: Ditto on June 09, 2017, 04:05:06 PM
So someone in the tournament is going to be stronger than Beerus?
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Post by: Bandido on June 09, 2017, 05:41:16 PM
Que?!
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Post by: Ditto on October 08, 2017, 08:29:41 PM
Resurrecting this because something finally happened that I was remotely into. Goku's new form was pretty awesome to see on display.

I can't see any conceivable way for Jiren to lose at this point, though. Goku at his peak managed to barely scuff up his cheek once.
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Post by: altoon on October 08, 2017, 08:36:36 PM
Thing is he doesn't have to beat him to win the tournament.  I more curious as to if all but one of the universes are gonna be destroyed when this is over.  They have to be using a different timing system than regular no way the tournament only been going on 20 minutes. Hell it's been more episodes than minutes passed.
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Post by: BillyRunsThingsSon on October 08, 2017, 09:58:40 PM
FUUU... JUN... HA!
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Post by: DarthAlani on October 09, 2017, 12:43:23 PM
Really good episodes.  About damn time. 
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 09, 2017, 12:51:03 PM
Yeah, you don't lose by getting everyone out of the ring, it's who has the most people in a universe left at the end of the time limit.

So right now, I think Universe six and seven are in pretty good shape.

But I love Jiren schooling Goku. Now if Vegeta could get an awesome power-up that would be great. Seriously, WTF can't Vegeta get a power-up before Goku? He taught himself Super Sayain God!!!
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Post by: altoon on October 09, 2017, 02:48:55 PM
And Jiren universe is in bad shape they only have 3 left.  He's gonna have to wreck shop if he wants his side to have a chance.  That being said can't wait for Jiren vs Hit next ep.  Hit reminds me of the Undertaker.
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Post by: Ditto on October 09, 2017, 06:13:14 PM
I'm aware of the rules of the tournament but anyone not being absolutely one-sided massacred by Jiren at this point is going to be shit writing. He shouldn't have the slightest issue eliminating every single remaining combatant.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on October 09, 2017, 08:33:04 PM
I'm aware of the rules of the tournament but anyone not being absolutely one-sided massacred by Jiren at this point is going to be shit writing. He shouldn't have the slightest issue eliminating every single remaining combatant.
Consistency is not Toriyama’s strong suit
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Post by: altoon on October 09, 2017, 09:48:53 PM
And he could have a weakness were not aware of.
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Post by: Bandido on October 10, 2017, 04:34:02 AM
The "Ultra Instinct" Goku vs Jiren fight in Episode 110 was incredibly animated.
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 10, 2017, 12:17:42 PM
And he could have a weakness were not aware of.

And maybe just ring him out by some clever maneuvering.

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Post by: Bandido on October 10, 2017, 06:35:34 PM
I'm aware of the rules of the tournament but anyone not being absolutely one-sided massacred by Jiren at this point is going to be shit writing. He shouldn't have the slightest issue eliminating every single remaining combatant.
Consistency is not Toriyama’s strong suit
The morality of DBZ characters is often illogical, thus in-universe consistent. Vegeta for instance, may choose not to sully his hands with weaker opponents, Jiren may be the same. Or, he knows Goku and/or Hit may be able to give him a warrior's death.
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Post by: Thanos6 on October 11, 2017, 02:42:39 PM
This arc had better end with them finding some way to defeat the Omni-King, or they're not even remotely good people. looks at Gohan
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Post by: altoon on October 11, 2017, 03:55:47 PM
Honestly I'm surpised Goku hasn't challenged him to a fight.
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Post by: Strawman Abridged on October 15, 2017, 07:14:30 PM
It'd be funny if Cabba, Caulifla, and basically the rest of their universe' Saiyans could all potentially go Super Brolyjin. Jiren struggling to fend off a pack of rabid Brolys would tickle my fickle pickle.




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Post by: Mightily Oats on October 15, 2017, 07:16:15 PM
It'd be funny if Cabba, Caulifla, and basically the rest of their universe' Saiyans could all potentially go Super Brolyjin. Jiren struggling to fend off a pack of rabid Brolys would tickle my fickle pickle.
I was wondering if chick Broly might not be the final solution for Jiren

Goku blue was getting his ass kicked by her, and Broly only gets more maximumer as time goes on
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Post by: altoon on October 15, 2017, 11:23:22 PM
^^^^Jiren already took her down with one attack. And he shows Goku the ultimate disrespect by saying he's not worth his time or a threat and begins to meditate. I'm mad my boy Hit got took out the tournament.
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Post by: Bandido on October 16, 2017, 12:57:49 AM
Goku got a piece of Jiren last week though. Ultra Instinct. Frieza healing Goku was a fun synchronous throwback to Namek.
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 16, 2017, 03:56:08 AM
I like how Hit doesn't even bother to encourage the Namekians on his team.

And I'm guess Jiren's like "well, about five minutes to go, I'll just chuck everyone out of the ring. Meditating time until then"

Anyway, I've been thinking, the best fighter (it's be Goku because everything has to be Goku) gets a wish, right? I was thinking, why not have all the other people in in the universes be allowed to enter the 6th universe? I mean, apparently one reason why it's having to defend itself is because Berus destroyed to much and the better universes seem to be brimming with life.

Why wish for everyone in the other universe to be allowed in the sixth and then the tougher universes become upset with Universe six can actually compete with them and that starts a new saga later.
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Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 22, 2017, 04:49:40 AM
Episode 112. Further proof that Vegeta is a better persona than Goku and should be the main character.
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Post by: Bandido on October 23, 2017, 01:52:43 AM
That was never in doubt. Going all the way back the first tournament in DBS, encouraging and dismantling Cabba. Great stuff.
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Post by: Gree on October 23, 2017, 10:14:54 AM
Where do you watch
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Post by: Bandido on October 23, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
Watch the dub in Cartoon Network and I think YouTube has the subbed episodes now.
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Post by: Mightily Oats on October 23, 2017, 03:40:14 PM
Where do you watch
dragonballenglish.com

Seriously
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Post by: Mightily Oats on October 23, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
Fusion is allowed in the Tournament of Power???????