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Title: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on October 18, 2014, 12:13:25 PM
Who do you have as your top 5 for the end of the regular season (ie: who will be in the playoffs, and who will be the first team out)?

Title: Re: College Football 2014
Post by: Prime on October 18, 2014, 02:53:21 PM
Not sure. Fall is the busiest season for me in my line of work so I have not been able to watch ANY college ball at all. Which is saddening. Haven't seen any of Dak Prescott and Mississippi state at all.
Title: Re: College Football 2014
Post by: Prime on October 19, 2014, 12:23:16 PM
Caught the last bit of the 4th quarter of the FSU-ND game. Broke my fucking heart. Was hoping Winston would lose.
Title: Re: College Football 2014
Post by: Master on October 24, 2014, 08:35:56 PM
Miss State is the real deal, and FSU is only 80% of what it was last year. FSU is on track to make the playoffs, but I see them getting eliminated instantly.
Title: Re: College Football 2014
Post by: Todd on October 29, 2014, 02:09:56 AM
the 2 above haters can kiss mine and fsu's ass. 80% is still going to win another natty.
Title: Re: College Football 2014
Post by: Prime on October 29, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
I'm sorry. Cant get behind Jameis Winston.  Guy's an utter scumbag.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on October 29, 2014, 09:40:20 AM
Modified the topic title and stickied it.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 29, 2014, 02:21:48 PM
If we get an all SEC playoff, It's going to be wonderful. :)
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 31, 2014, 08:44:42 AM
You know what Florida St.'s real strength is...that everyone playing them gets dumber and dumber as the game goes on! :mad:
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on October 31, 2014, 10:46:36 AM
Seriously. Winston has insane luck on his side. Forced that throw in between THREE defenders, two of whom run into each other like idiots and fall to the ground.


Damnit.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on November 01, 2014, 08:21:01 AM
Petrino: Hm, do I go with what worked in the first half or--eh, I'll just scrap it.

Petrino: Hm, 3rd and two in four down territory...I could run the ball twice with the RB, who has been the only constant player on my team...but I'll have my erratic QB throw to a rookie TE!

Dear, Atlanta Falcons, it pains me to inform you that I am leaving. I suck. Maybe the guy who looks like a fat Steve Martin will do better.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on November 01, 2014, 10:01:10 AM
Maybe the guy who looks like a fat Steve Martin will do better.

LOL, never noticed that until you mentioned it. Spot on, lol.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on November 10, 2014, 05:41:25 PM
Am I the only one who likes how the anti-SEC announcers say the SEC isn't that good...and at the same time praying that they knock each other out of the playoffs?

Oregon at Number four...BAH!
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on November 11, 2014, 04:51:34 PM
Yeah, so I'm just going to leave these posts here until I get the permissions ability to ban this profile, deleting these posts everyday is getting on my nerves.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on November 15, 2014, 10:30:26 PM
AGAIN! How freakin' lucky can one team be!!?
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on November 18, 2014, 07:03:27 PM
The fact we barely beat UM this past weekend was a joke. We're barely winning games and it's pathetic.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on November 21, 2014, 11:15:50 AM
I wouldn't say that. FSU lost a decent amount of talent. It speaks to Winstons talent and clutch factor that he just keeps getting it done in close games. ON THE FIELD, this kid is the real fucking deal.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on November 23, 2014, 07:23:34 AM
Squeaker against BC too. Going undefeated thus far is an accomplishment. But I wouldn't give FSU odds over any SEC West team (other than Texas A&M), Oregon, Ohio State, or Wisconsin.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Todd on November 23, 2014, 06:43:18 PM
Beat those bitches too. By 2.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on November 30, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
Well, bye-bye playoffs Mississippi State. :(

Seriously, it sucks they're out and FSU is in. I'm sorry, but they may have defeated their weak opponents...but all just barely!
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on November 30, 2014, 02:07:31 PM
My point exactly. Yeah Jameis is clutch, but eventually waking up and getting to realize that the other guys have to step up and do their part and not rely solely on Winston is getting old. There were a lot of games we should've lost that we didn't. I'm glad for my team for recording another undefeated season, but with how we play we're not bound to make it far in the playoffs. Hopefully we step it up and continue to maintain poise and not falter. Cause that game yesterday? No reason for it to have been that close.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Todd on December 06, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
Another win upcoming in less than an hour.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Todd on December 07, 2014, 01:53:55 AM
29-0.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on December 07, 2014, 10:18:22 AM
So Bama, Ore, FSU, and TCU in the first playoff. Not bad.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on December 07, 2014, 01:19:12 PM
You mean Ohio? We drew Oregon which we should beat. Should.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on December 07, 2014, 02:23:48 PM
You mean Ohio? We drew Oregon which we should beat. Should.

My post was made before the selection committee chose to let Ohio leapfrog TCU.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on December 07, 2014, 02:40:45 PM
Yeah I thought TSU was more deserving, a lot of people upset about it. We should have at least been rank 2 imo but 3rd's better than 4th.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on December 07, 2014, 07:57:20 PM
How the heck they dropped to 6th?! They did what they were supposed to do. They played a bad team and kicked the snot out of them!

This committee is garbage.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on December 08, 2014, 02:13:19 PM
I think the committee looked back and said, "You know, we should have had Baylor ahead of TCU. Let's fix that error this week."

Then Big 10 sent the committee members wheelbarrows full of cash and drugs, and the committee said, "Let's reward Ohio for beating teams who are fucking worthless. 3rd string QB? Loss to VT? Let's erase those things from our memories with lots of cash and drugs."
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 13, 2015, 12:17:28 AM
Man, OSU coughed it up FOUR times and still won by 22 points. Oregon didn't just get beat, Oregon got its shit pushed in. Wow.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on January 13, 2015, 12:18:26 PM
Afterall, no means no Oregon. Hope they enjoy their fucking 3000 uniforms and 0 titles.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Imperial on January 13, 2015, 03:52:27 PM
Was pulling for Oregon, but OSU's size was just too much for them. Congrats to the Buckeyes.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Average John on January 13, 2015, 08:23:34 PM
OSU beating Bama first really is the great thing about it. SEC cockslobbers finally have nothing to say.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 13, 2015, 09:12:25 PM
You know how you know you're the best? Even when you don't win, everyone else is jealous of you still. :P
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on January 13, 2015, 10:56:43 PM
Winston>Mariota anyday.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 13, 2015, 10:59:12 PM
Definitely.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 14, 2015, 12:52:01 AM
Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both of them.

Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on January 14, 2015, 12:07:33 PM
Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both of them.

Jones made a few mistakes, but for only having 2 prior starts, he was incredible.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 14, 2015, 12:27:53 PM
Jones >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both of them.


He has a higher ceiling than both of them, he's a quicker Big Ben. But Winston will be the best pro. Best passer of the group BY FAR.


Again. For emphasis. BY FAR
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 14, 2015, 01:21:09 PM
I disagree. Winston's going to have to work on his throwing motion for the NFL. Jones--wow, the ball gets out there.

I know this, I watched the college playoffs and Jones stood out. He stood out big. I wouldn't have a single problem with Jones being taken by the Titans with the second pick. Hell, we took Jake Locker with the 8th once. Go for it. He reminds me of Cam Newton without many of the flaws.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 14, 2015, 01:50:12 PM
I disagree. Winston's going to have to work on his throwing motion for the NFL. Jones--wow, the ball gets out there.

I know this, I watched the college playoffs and Jones stood out. He stood out big. I wouldn't have a single problem with Jones being taken by the Titans with the second pick. Hell, we took Jake Locker with the 8th once. Go for it. He reminds me of Cam Newton without many of the flaws.

PTF, PTF....when will you learn. How many times have you and I done this dance and I have been right? Like last year with Bridgewater and Manziel for instance? Tebow? Winston's throwing motion is a little long, nowhere near Byron Leftwich long, but long. That's fixable. Teaching someone to learn to throw with anticipation and accuracy is HARD. NFL is too fast and windows are too tight. Winston is already there and then some. As far as playing the QB position, Winston is LIGHTYEARS ahead of the rest of the QB class. Ohio State dared Mariota to throw from the pocket and he couldn't do it consistently enough to win. Jones has a shit ton of potential but he is RAW. Winston can hit the ground running and then some. I think he'll be the best pro. Jones with good coaching and desire can be on that level. He could easily be Big Ben 2.0....but he could also be Jamarcus Russell.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 14, 2015, 04:14:00 PM
Yeah, Bridgewater did good. I even gave him credit for what he did, especially without AP But are you really going to hold Manziel going in the last bit of the season against him? That's not really fair. And I still think Manziel will be better than Bridgewater. If he does better than Manziel next year, I'll concede.

Tebow? You're going to use Tebow against me? I was the one, when Tebow got the starting job predicted the exact win-loss of the Broncos correctly! EXACTLY. And he got them in the playoffs and that was a team that had trouble at the offensive line and Tebow had no TE. And, as a Pats fan, you know how important it is to have a TE as a security blanket. Tebow had none. Heck, the play calling was horrible too. And check out his fourth quarter numbers. He made plays when he had to. And what does it say about a guy when John Elway--who grimaced every time Tebow won a game--had to get Peyton Manning to get rid of you. A HALL OF FAME, SUPER BOWL WINNING QB is what it took to get Tebow out of Denver!

And he just got sabotaged by the Jets. Rex Ryan had no intention of ever giving him a chance because of his man crush with Mark Sanchez.

I don't agree about Winston. How many games did he have multiple interceptions. I'll admit, the early games, I think that the team failed him, but the later games, he made a ton of bad decisions. I'm not going to hold the Ducks game against him. That was just weird. But I do think he's much better than Mariota. Heck, you need to mention durability because I don't think he can take big time hits. Same with RGIII.

You're right. He is raw. But look at the three games he won! I can't think of anyone else ever doing that. You can't tell me he did not leap out of the screen at you. I was just amazed in his game with Alabama. Him on third downs...wow. And I'm not saying start him immediately. I'm saying let him sit a year. Let Mettenburger start. Let Jones learn.

And I like Mettenburger! I think he could be better than Manziel and Bridgewater--if Wisenhunt isn't an idiot. But Jones--I just really liked what I say from him.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 14, 2015, 05:02:49 PM
Yeah, Bridgewater did good. I even gave him credit for what he did, especially without AP But are you really going to hold Manziel going in the last bit of the season against him? That's not really fair. And I still think Manziel will be better than Bridgewater. If he does better than Manziel next year, I'll concede.
He WILL do better than Manziel. Not even considering the fact that Manziel is absolutely terrible, he parties WAY too much. Not even remotely what a Pro QB should be like. He played backyard football at A&M, that shit doesn't work on the NFL level. And you clearly saw that.

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Tebow? You're going to use Tebow against me? I was the one, when Tebow got the starting job predicted the exact win-loss of the Broncos correctly! EXACTLY. And he got them in the playoffs and that was a team that had trouble at the offensive line and Tebow had no TE. And, as a Pats fan, you know how important it is to have a TE as a security blanket. Tebow had none. Heck, the play calling was horrible too. And check out his fourth quarter numbers. He made plays when he had to. And what does it say about a guy when John Elway--who grimaced every time Tebow won a game--had to get Peyton Manning to get rid of you. A HALL OF FAME, SUPER BOWL WINNING QB is what it took to get Tebow out of Denver!

And he just got sabotaged by the Jets. Rex Ryan had no intention of ever giving him a chance because of his man crush with Mark Sanchez.
Tebow can't play. This is a FACT. Held back the Broncos offense more than he helped it. Demariyus Thomas is a top 3 Wideout in the NFL and he was rendered useless by Tebow's ineptitude at the QB position. Broncos played great defense, and the offense did just enough to win, plus won time of possession because of all the running it did. Tebow was awful, and that is why he is out of the League.

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I don't agree about Winston. How many games did he have multiple interceptions. I'll admit, the early games, I think that the team failed him, but the later games, he made a ton of bad decisions. I'm not going to hold the Ducks game against him. That was just weird. But I do think he's much better than Mariota. Heck, you need to mention durability because I don't think he can take big time hits. Same with RGIII.

He had a lot less talent around him this season, and pressed to make plays. Not ideal, but again, FIXABLE. Winston is the real deal. Mariota will be more durable than RG3. Physically Mariota is basically Colin Kaepernick, he is slightly faster and has a live arm, but not a cannon like Kaepernick's. Also a more refined and accurate passer than Kaepernick was coming out of Nevada, but still obviously has a long way to go.

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You're right. He is raw. But look at the three games he won! I can't think of anyone else ever doing that. You can't tell me he did not leap out of the screen at you. I was just amazed in his game with Alabama. Him on third downs...wow. And I'm not saying start him immediately. I'm saying let him sit a year. Let Mettenburger start. Let Jones learn.
Jones played 3 games, all of which he had a 200+ yard rusher in Zeke Elliot scaring the shit out of the opposing defense and a O-Line that jelled late and was absolutely MAULING people. Nowhere near the sample size needed to gauge his talent. Sure I think he has the potential to be a good, or even great pro. But it's all projection. Winston is a sure thing who has the quarterbacking foundation NFL teams are struggling to teach project QB's and failing. Winston speaks and act like a fucking idiot, and Mariota is polished, but Winston's quarterbacking IQ>>>>>>>Mariota's. Winston will be graduate level, Mariota's barely out of high school. Same with Jones, although Jones looks FAR more comfortable in the pocket than Mariota. But a lot of people would when they are generally kept clean.

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And I like Mettenburger! I think he could be better than Manziel and Bridgewater--if Wisenhunt isn't an idiot. But Jones--I just really liked what I say from him.
Mettenberger was a fucking statue before he hurt his knee and is even more of one now. Leadfoot pocket passers with elongated deliveries (AND he likes to hold on to the ball too long and doesn't go through reads quickly...wow) don't become great or even GOOD starters in today's NFL. Just ask Byron Leftwich. Not to mention that Mettenberger benefited from playing with ELITE WR talent in college with Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 14, 2015, 08:31:35 PM
I'm not going to hold a rookie QB responsible when he's put in the last games of the season--especially when the Bengals just took the opening drive and rammed it down the Browns throat. The defense that was doing pretty good went away. Josh Gordon never made an impact. I think he'll do pretty good next season.

Tebow can play, Tebow DID play, TEBOW won. The reason Tebow played was because the Broncos sucked. I watched them against the Titans and that offensive line was horrid, Thomas wasn't what he is today, and Orton--well, he's a loser and a punk. The Broncos had a losing record. Tebow got put in finally, they got to the playoffs, they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers and Tebow actually did great throwing the ball. And that's with Fox's idiot run, run, throw for a long three idiot scheme and the RB fumbling the ball to get the Steelers back in the game. Jon Gruden, someone who ESPN has evaluate QBs coming into the NFL, has vocally stated he would love to have Tim Tebow as his starter.

You know who you kind of remind me of? J. Jonah Jamerson from Marvels. Y'know "If Spider-Man acts he's a vigilante, if he doesn't he's a coward." Winston didn't have the talent so his mistakes and loss are explained, Jones had a better team so what he did wasn't that impressive. That's not fair.

My problem with the Seminoles wasn't that they barely won...it was the teams they barely beat. C'mon, Florida gave them a fight. Florida. Florida had them on the ropes. They were being pushed by lots of teams they still had more talent then. OSU went into the playoffs and kicked butt. Being a QB is about doing what you can with what you have and what the other team will give you. Jones did that. When Alabama had him on those long third downs, I figured, he's in trouble--but he made the plays! And he kept doing it.
Winston made very bad mistakes against bad teams. And he came back--but he shouldn't have had to later in the season. I just saw poor decision making.

And I'm not saying Winston is going to not be great. He does have the potential. He's a winner. He finally lost a football game...and that was mainly because the team around him self destructed in one of the most weirdest ways ever. I just think Jones will be better. Just using the eye test, he leaped out of the screen. He played with poised, read his progressions, didn't eye any single one too long. He was in the biggest spotlight of his life and he thrived.

Mett isn't a statue. Is he going to run for twenty yards. No. But he will move around in the pocket to avoid a hit--and brother did he have to with that injury ridden o-line. And I saw a guy who did read through his progressions and had a pretty good delivery. And yeah, he held on to the ball--because that f'in' defense sucked. He did pretty good. And he got injured--but I'm not going to hold being hit late by JJ Watt against him. Heck, I didn't even hold Locker responsible for the two Jets hitting him late. Every other time though. :)

Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Imperial on January 14, 2015, 09:11:13 PM
I only watched parts and pieces of the game. But going just on what I saw and replays, Mariota didn't have a lot of support at times. I saw several passes that hit his receivers right in the hands, chest, or stomach and they dropped them. Those go as incompletions but realistically they are on the not pass catchers. It is true that Mariota was off target in the red zone though.

Honestly Oregon is built to play a certain way. When they come up against an opponent that can effectively counter that and take them out of their style, they are not the same team.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 14, 2015, 11:36:40 PM
Well, one thing I'm hoping for is that the Bucs take Winston and the Titans GM tries to get more picks by trying to negoiate with the Eagles. You know Chip Kelly would love to have Mariota.

...

But then I'm asking someone who traded away or cut two LBs who are now on teams in the AFC championship game to win a battle of the minds. :(

Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: GalactusTheGreat on January 15, 2015, 09:16:48 AM
That would be the dumbest thing Chip Kelly could do. There is nothing wrong with having Foles as a starter. The Eagles only fix should be a new defense coordinator, getting rid and replacing Nate Allen and Fletcher, and leaving everything as it should.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 17, 2015, 01:45:46 PM
I'm not going to hold a rookie QB responsible when he's put in the last games of the season--especially when the Bengals just took the opening drive and rammed it down the Browns throat. The defense that was doing pretty good went away. Josh Gordon never made an impact. I think he'll do pretty good next season.

He played god awful. All it was, was him running around trying to do Johnny Football things...which don't work at the NFL unless you are a top tier athlete, and he isn't. The guy's play and work ethic absolutely SCREAMS bust, toxic, just doesn't get it. Maybe he could be Russell Wilson on his best day, but he is not as fast, doesn't have Wilson's arm, is NOWHERE the pocket passer Wilson is, and even though Wilson is shorter, Wilson has a more compact build and stocky body type to take hits. I won't even bother mentioning intangibles, as Wilson is near tops in the League, and Johnny pretty much has none.

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Tebow can play, Tebow DID play, TEBOW won. The reason Tebow played was because the Broncos sucked. I watched them against the Titans and that offensive line was horrid, Thomas wasn't what he is today, and Orton--well, he's a loser and a punk. The Broncos had a losing record. Tebow got put in finally, they got to the playoffs, they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers and Tebow actually did great throwing the ball. And that's with Fox's idiot run, run, throw for a long three idiot scheme and the RB fumbling the ball to get the Steelers back in the game. Jon Gruden, someone who ESPN has evaluate QBs coming into the NFL, has vocally stated he would love to have Tim Tebow as his starter.

No, he can't. In his one season starting he completed 46% of his passes, for 12 tds and 6 picks. His QBR, which also factors in rushing yards by a QB was 29.2 which was abysmal. He looked halfway competent against horrible teams with horrible defenses, and god awful against good ones. The Broncos D that year kept them in it against upper echelon competition, as it played up and down to opponents usually. No QB who completes less than half his passes at less than 7 yards per attempt is good. A two to one touchdown to interception rate is not good. The writing was on the wall, and the Broncos were fucked in 2012 if they let him start again. With a whole offseason to study tape on that Broncos read/option? Lol they were fucked and they knew it. 2011 Broncos won in SPITE of Tebow's play more often than not. Not because of it.

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You know who you kind of remind me of? J. Jonah Jamerson from Marvels. Y'know "If Spider-Man acts he's a vigilante, if he doesn't he's a coward." Winston didn't have the talent so his mistakes and loss are explained, Jones had a better team so what he did wasn't that impressive. That's not fair.

My problem with the Seminoles wasn't that they barely won...it was the teams they barely beat. C'mon, Florida gave them a fight. Florida. Florida had them on the ropes. They were being pushed by lots of teams they still had more talent then. OSU went into the playoffs and kicked butt. Being a QB is about doing what you can with what you have and what the other team will give you. Jones did that. When Alabama had him on those long third downs, I figured, he's in trouble--but he made the plays! And he kept doing it.
Winston made very bad mistakes against bad teams. And he came back--but he shouldn't have had to later in the season. I just saw poor decision making.

That'd make sense if there wasn't a full season worth of tape from last year where we saw Winston play virtually mistake free football and consistently dominate AND lead the Seminoles from behind when they played in the Championship game. This year they had FAR less talent around him (as you could clearly see in the Oregon blowout) and he put the team on his back for the entire season and kept them in it. Did he press a lot this year? Yes. But again, no one else was going to make a play for the Seminoles, clearly. Jones showed something yes, and he has a very high ceiling. But 3 games when your team is playing well around you is NOT going to give you an accurate view of what he can do. He plays in a spread, behind a great O line, with a great running back, it's easy to look great. Can he look off a safety? Throw with anticipation in tight windows if a D takes away the deep shots? Etc, Etc. He needs reps. A fuckton of them. But he has the most potential of him, Mariota, and Winston. But you could have said the same thing about Logan Thomas at Virginia Tech (6-6, 250 with a huge arm and he ran a 4.54. In other words, Logan Thomas is equal to and maybe slightly greater than Cam Newton in raw athleticism), and Arians didn't even feel comfortable starting him over RYAN LINDLEY. Just because your a big fucking guy who can run and throw a football to the moon doesn't mean shit. Raw is raw. People get so enamored with the Athletic college QB's watching them run around in college ball and think that shit works consistently at the pro level, it doesn't. Even the greatest athletes only go so far without fundamentals. If athleticism alone was all you need, Vick would have a million rings by now. Best Athlete at the QB position I have ever seen by a WIDE margin. No one had his speed, not even RG3 or Cunningham, and he could flick his wrist and throw a rope 40 yards running full speed midstride. Insane.

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And I'm not saying Winston is going to not be great. He does have the potential. He's a winner. He finally lost a football game...and that was mainly because the team around him self destructed in one of the most weirdest ways ever. I just think Jones will be better. Just using the eye test, he leaped out of the screen. He played with poised, read his progressions, didn't eye any single one too long. He was in the biggest spotlight of his life and he thrived.
Plays in a spread, you usually only read half the field, reads are simpler, route trees are simpler, very few checks and changes in protections if ANY. Winston? He does ALL of that already. Jones at the pro level would be AWFUL right now, especially given how many teams use packaged plays now, where routes will change depending on coverage. Same for Mariota, the change will be rough.

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Mett isn't a statue. Is he going to run for twenty yards. No. But he will move around in the pocket to avoid a hit--and brother did he have to with that injury ridden o-line. And I saw a guy who did read through his progressions and had a pretty good delivery. And yeah, he held on to the ball--because that f'in' defense sucked. He did pretty good. And he got injured--but I'm not going to hold being hit late by JJ Watt against him. Heck, I didn't even hold Locker responsible for the two Jets hitting him late. Every other time though.
He IS a statue, and destined to be a backup or bridge starter AT BEST. Holds the ball too long, slow delivery, and he isn't mobile. That means sacks and ints. Titans need a QB of the future. Mettenberger isn't it. Sorry.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 18, 2015, 11:08:17 AM
Yeah. He played off. He played in the end of the season as a rookie when the team was going down and playing tougher opponents. I'm not going to blame any rookie QB who didn't start until that point to come in that late. I think he'll be much better next year. The guy is a competitor. And I don't think comparing him to Wilson is fair. I mean, you've got a Superbowl QB with a much better team and even better coaching staff. Johnny has The Browns. And is a rookie. Who only started the last of the year.

Tebow can play. Heck, he had no help from his coaching. I mean, how in the hell are you supposed to get in any sort of rhythm when it's run the ball two times, throw long? The reason why is fouth quarter numbers looked good was because he finally got to throw the stupid ball on first and second down! Plus, as I've said, no TE help at all. And Tebow won games, and Tebow beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff win. With good stats.

Well,the Jones thing is mute since he's going back to school, so we'll see what he does.

I liked what I say from Mettenburger. And that's from a guy coming back from less than a year from an ACL injury. So he had trouble with certain throws...like the pick six against the Steelers. Why the hell Wisenhunt did that the first play--rgghh. For a rookie, I don't think he held the ball too long. Especially with that horrible offensive line. He was easily the best thrower of the rookie QBs (style wise).I And he does move around in the pocket to avoid hits and he has great footwork. I think he can be a starter. I'd rather draft Leonard Williams in the first round. That defense needs help.

 
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 18, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
Yeah. He played off. He played in the end of the season as a rookie when the team was going down and playing tougher opponents. I'm not going to blame any rookie QB who didn't start until that point to come in that late. I think he'll be much better next year. The guy is a competitor. And I don't think comparing him to Wilson is fair. I mean, you've got a Superbowl QB with a much better team and even better coaching staff. Johnny has The Browns. And is a rookie. Who only started the last of the year.
No, he played god awful. I gave him a pass for Buffalo, but Cincinatti? 10 of 18 for 80 yards and two picks. Positively Tebowesque. The Bengals that were 13th against the pass, finished dead last in the NFL in sacks, near the bottom in 40 yard pass plays, in the bottom half in 20 yard pass plays. Manziel was garbage and I always knew he would be. Won't change much either, considering his work ethic and character are piss poor.

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Tebow can play. Heck, he had no help from his coaching. I mean, how in the hell are you supposed to get in any sort of rhythm when it's run the ball two times, throw long? The reason why is fouth quarter numbers looked good was because he finally got to throw the stupid ball on first and second down! Plus, as I've said, no TE help at all. And Tebow won games, and Tebow beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in a playoff win. With good stats.
Please stop parroting bullshit about Tebow having no help. He had Demariyus Thomas, Eric Decker, Eddie Royal, Julius Thomas, Virgil Green, and Daniel Fells all on that 2011 squad AND HE COULD NOT CONSISTENTLY THROW THE FUCKING FOOTBALL. Any of the top 10-15 QB's in the NFL would throw for 4k yards and 20 tds with those pass catchers. Guaranteed. Tebow held back the Broncos passing offense, not the other way around. You think it's a coincidence Thomas' catch totals and yardage nearly TRIPLED (and like consistently nearly 90 catches, nearly 1500 yards, and double digit tds) when the Broncos traded away Tebow and signed Manning? And it's not like Manning does much for Thomas either. It's a lot of screens and short crossers that Thomas turns into YAC yards, like 7.9 a catch. Tim Tebow was fucking terrible.


Jesus.

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Well,the Jones thing is mute since he's going back to school, so we'll see what he does

Him going back to school probably proves I'm right more than anything.

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I liked what I say from Mettenburger. And that's from a guy coming back from less than a year from an ACL injury. So he had trouble with certain throws...like the pick six against the Steelers. Why the hell Wisenhunt did that the first play--rgghh. For a rookie, I don't think he held the ball too long. Especially with that horrible offensive line. He was easily the best thrower of the rookie QBs (style wise).I And he does move around in the pocket to avoid hits and he has great footwork. I think he can be a starter. I'd rather draft Leonard Williams in the first round. That defense needs help.
He will be nothing more than a career backup or bridge starter because he had a pro style background in college and can plug and play without being a complete novice when it comes to playing the QB position mentally. He isn't the answer at QB. As far as Leonard Williams, he should be great. But the Texans have the 2nd best NFL defensive lineman of all time on their team (Watt is playing at a level only Reggie White matched or exceeded) and they can't even make the playoffs. You don't have a QB, you don't win. Take Winston.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 18, 2015, 07:38:03 PM
Hey, I watched the Browns vs Bengals..noone on the Browns came to play that game. They just got the ball rammed down their throat. The offensive line went poof. I'm going to give Manziel next year to see what he can do. I don't think the Browns would start Hoyer again, so it should be Johnny's team.

I only consider one of them a pretty good reciever. It'd be two if the other Thomas--COULD NOT DROP THE FLIPPIN' BALL!!  And they were both rookies at the time, if I recall. You can't throw the frickin' ball if it's run up the middle first two downs and throw long on the third. That's impossible. And without TE as a security blanket! The Broncos had a losing record before Tebow took over and he got them in the playoffs. And like I said, look at his fourth quarter numbers. He actually got to stray from that idiotic formula.

I think Mettenburger can be a starter. So far, Russell Wilson is the only "running" QB I see as a success and he honestly has a lot of help. I don't get the big deal with Kapernick. Cam...How I want him to do well. Mett has the arm and accuracy. He'll be healthy and have full range of his throwing motion and his leg will be fully healed. I don't want because

1. I don't think he's that good. I wasn't impressed at all with this season. He made really dumb decisions and put his team in a hole against opposition the Seminoles should have beat soundly.

2. I don't trust his maturity. Jimbo Fisher gave him all the kisses and hugs and turned a blind eye to everything and let him get away with it. Had that with YV.

I'm happy with Mettenburger. He does well, yay! He sucks, get Jones next year. Maybe even fire that idiot GM and coach. So yeah, I like my line of thinking. :)
Plus the guy is already putting in the work and is the first in last out type person.

Besides, Winston is going to go to the Bucs, Mariota doesn't fit with what Wisenhunt wants.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 19, 2015, 12:34:56 PM
Hey, I watched the Browns vs Bengals..noone on the Browns came to play that game. They just got the ball rammed down their throat. The offensive line went poof. I'm going to give Manziel next year to see what he can do. I don't think the Browns would start Hoyer again, so it should be Johnny's team.

The O-Line went poof because Manziel held the ball too long and ran all over the place like a headless chicken. Can't expect things not to break down when your QB can't play the position correctly.

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I only consider one of them a pretty good reciever. It'd be two if the other Thomas--COULD NOT DROP THE FLIPPIN' BALL!!  And they were both rookies at the time, if I recall. You can't throw the frickin' ball if it's run up the middle first two downs and throw long on the third. That's impossible. And without TE as a security blanket! The Broncos had a losing record before Tebow took over and he got them in the playoffs. And like I said, look at his fourth quarter numbers. He actually got to stray from that idiotic formula.

Then you're dumb. Thomas is a top 5 receiver. Decker is a top of the line number 2, and a 1.5 on a good day, Eddie Royal is a very good 3/slot man to have. Size, speed, everything you could ask for and Tebow couldn't do shit with it. Steelers got burnt because their game plan was fucking IDIOTIC. Kept their safeties close to the line, left little to no help over the top, and watched their CB's get burnt by superior athletes in Thomas and Decker. To make matters worse, they BACKED UP their safeties in the red zone? WHAT?! Tebow got lucky, then went to NE against a smarter coach and got his shit pushed in...because he is terrible. Mind you the 2011 Pats defense was garbage.

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I think Mettenburger can be a starter.
I hope you also think the Titans will be nothing more than mediocre. Because that is what Mettenberger is. Mediocre. Never will be anything more.

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1. I don't think he's that good. I wasn't impressed at all with this season. He made really dumb decisions and put his team in a hole against opposition the Seminoles should have beat soundly.
Wrong. Had less talent, and pressed to make plays. There is plenty of tape when he does have the requisite talent around him to not have to press. You need to watch more closely.

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2. I don't trust his maturity. Jimbo Fisher gave him all the kisses and hugs and turned a blind eye to everything and let him get away with it. Had that with YV.
100% legit concern, and the ONLY REASON WINSTON ISN'T A SLAM DUNK FIRST ROUNDER. Nothing on the field, only off. Winston is a FAR better Qb than Young ever was, and handles adversity WAY better. Even though Winston is an idiot and maybe a rapist? All the media firestorm and negative opinions of him? Winston never even blinked and let it affect his play or really his off the field day either. Negative press, a coach that didn't like him, and the fact that he was overrated as hell and sucked ruined Vince Young. You think Jameis really cares if a coach or the media likes him? Yeah, no he doesn't. Certainly not enough to let it affect his play.

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Besides, Winston is going to go to the Bucs, Mariota doesn't fit with what Wisenhunt wants.
Not neccesarily. Mariota has zero ego and is one of the guys. Locker room will like him, and his attitude SCREAMS "coachable". Physically, he is a more polished Colin Kaepernick. Demeanor wise? He is more or less Joe Flacco or Eli Manning except even more quiet, and one of the guys where they are not. None of that Rg3 me, me, me stuff. I wouldn't blame a GM for taking a shot on Mariota, seems more malleable than most athletic spread QB's in recent memory.

Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 19, 2015, 02:48:04 PM
No. He didn't have time to throw it. He had two seconds. He held onto the ball later in the game, but they were down by several touchdowns, so I won't fault a rookie QB there.

Decker is not a top of the line number two. He's a three at best. A two if  you give him a Brady or Peyton level QB to elevate his game. And I didn't exactly see Mr. Number two WR in last year's Superbowl. Eddie Royal...well, I actually used to think he would be something more, but he's where he's at. He might give you a game, but not what he did his rookie year. And The Steelers had a perfect game plan because--THE BRONCOS DID THE SAME STUPID STUFF EVER YEAR. Before overtime started, I went to the bathroom and told my friends "run first down," came back to hear one cussing and the Broncos celebrating. Tebow throwing the ball on first down? Yeah, I don't blame anyone on that. They challenged Tebow to throw the ball, he did.

I'm willing to make an avatar bet that says Mettenburger will have a better season than Bridgewater.

I watched the playoffs and his biggest games on TV. I'm not impressed. I'm sorry, I don't think he'll be bad in the NFL, but I don't think he's worth a top first round draft pick for the Titans. Heck, I was really bothered when the majority of the Seminoles didn't follow his lead and shake the winners' hands. Makes me wonder about his leadership in the lockeroom.

I have a problem with his accuracy and durability. I've seen him take a few hits that bothered him for several plays later. Personally, I think the Eagles should try and move up to get him because...does anyone here really have faith in what they have now?

Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Prime on January 19, 2015, 03:58:54 PM
No. He didn't have time to throw it. He had two seconds. He held onto the ball later in the game, but they were down by several touchdowns, so I won't fault a rookie QB there.
Yeah, no.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZVqMrITvyM
Late on his reads, holds the ball too long, release looked slow, shit fundamentals. He's terrible.

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Decker is not a top of the line number two. He's a three at best. A two if  you give him a Brady or Peyton level QB to elevate his game. And I didn't exactly see Mr. Number two WR in last year's Superbowl. Eddie Royal...well, I actually used to think he would be something more, but he's where he's at. He might give you a game, but not what he did his rookie year. And The Steelers had a perfect game plan because--THE BRONCOS DID THE SAME STUPID STUFF EVER YEAR. Before overtime started, I went to the bathroom and told my friends "run first down," came back to hear one cussing and the Broncos celebrating. Tebow throwing the ball on first down? Yeah, I don't blame anyone on that. They challenged Tebow to throw the ball, he did.
Wrong. Definitely a very good number 2 receiver, one of the best #2 receivers out there. Size, hands, good speed. He can play. Miscast as a number 1 in NY with a god awful pair of QB's throwing him the ball, on top of an injury plagued season where he had pretty consistently been healthy his whole career.

Try again.

Royal can play, especially if he has a legit 1-2 ahead of him coverage has to account for, which Thomas and Decker definitely were. Tebow was terrible, inconsistent, and if you want to bet your franchise on something like that....I have a bridge I can also sell you.

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I'm willing to make an avatar bet that says Mettenburger will have a better season than Bridgewater.
I don't bet on sports. But we both know you have made this proposition to me several times, and each time you've been wrong. Mettenberger can't hold Bridgewater's jock.

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I watched the playoffs and his biggest games on TV. I'm not impressed. I'm sorry, I don't think he'll be bad in the NFL, but I don't think he's worth a top first round draft pick for the Titans. Heck, I was really bothered when the majority of the Seminoles didn't follow his lead and shake the winners' hands. Makes me wonder about his leadership in the lockeroom.

I have a problem with his accuracy and durability. I've seen him take a few hits that bothered him for several plays later. Personally, I think the Eagles should try and move up to get him because...does anyone here really have faith in what they have now?

Winston is EXTREMELY accurate, the fuck? And he never missed a game due to injury. He has plenty of ability, and he is extremely polished on the field. Presses to make plays, but it's indicative of the talent around him. Tampa would hit the ground running if they drafted him and fixed their O-Line with Mike Evans and Jax already in place. Titans...I could see Winston making it work with Kendall Wright and co. I think that O-Line will be ok, if Roos returns to form from injury and they kick Taylor Lewan back over to RT.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 06, 2015, 08:49:51 AM
So... PAC 12. Not looking strong at all.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: BigJayStudd on September 06, 2015, 08:56:59 AM
So... PAC 12. Not looking strong at all.


I forgot they added Boise State this year. Anyways, Stanford looked like shit. AZ State was gonna take a step back. They had their shot last year when when they had a shitload of returning starters. USC and UCLA will still be good
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 13, 2015, 07:38:28 AM
Tennessee blowing that decent lead on the Sooners? Ugh. Auburn and Notre Dame sucking balls? Expected. Arkansas losing to Toledo? Yikes.

SEC not looking too sharp.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on October 04, 2015, 07:50:28 AM
UGA got absolutely chumped on national TV. Uhhhhhhhyggggvghhhhghhhhhhhh...

Well, at least overrated Notre Dame lost.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 04, 2015, 12:01:26 PM
Tennessee blowing that decent lead on the Sooners? Ugh. Auburn and Notre Dame sucking balls? Expected. Arkansas losing to Toledo? Yikes.

SEC not looking too sharp.

What? The SEC's loaded. Hell to the Seminoles, Boston College was a super challenge. :)

And The Vols...sigh. I think I preferred it when we got blown out. Y'know, so I don't have my hopes dashed every week. Kinda feeling empty inside right now... :(
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on October 04, 2015, 03:21:11 PM
Tennessee blowing that decent lead on the Sooners? Ugh. Auburn and Notre Dame sucking balls? Expected. Arkansas losing to Toledo? Yikes.

SEC not looking too sharp.

What? The SEC's loaded. Hell to the Seminoles, Boston College was a super challenge. :)

And The Vols...sigh. I think I preferred it when we got blown out. Y'know, so I don't have my hopes dashed every week. Kinda feeling empty inside right now... :(

SEC East has Florida as its only quality team this year. Tennessee is ALMOST there, but there is still something missing. Georgia is stagnant. Vandy, SC, and Mizzou are garbage. Kentucky is not bad, but they aren't that good either.

SEC West has Alabama and LSU as their quality teams this year. And Alabama is not playing well enough currently to be a playoff contenders. Ole Miss isn't really that good. Alabama just utterly shit the bed with turn overs and one fluke play to LET Ole Miss win. Auburn sucks. Arkansas sucks. A&M is just OK. Miss State is just OK.

I think the SEC will have a team play in the championship game this year, but the conference as a whole is not great.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Von Doom on October 11, 2015, 02:27:48 PM
So... PAC 12. Not looking strong at all.


I forgot they added Boise State this year. Anyways, Stanford looked like shit. AZ State was gonna take a step back. They had their shot last year when when they had a shitload of returning starters. USC and UCLA will still be good

Boise St is in the Mountain West.

Utah is looking pretty good.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on November 01, 2015, 07:20:24 AM
OK, Florida has won the SEC East. Vandy and SC won't be competitive games, so they clinched by beating UGA... who will hopefully fire Coach Richt.

In other news, Miami's gaming winning kick return was nutso.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Jonathanos on January 01, 2016, 12:15:12 AM
Bama 38, Michigan State 0.

I hate one-sided games.  Have a feeling the National Championship is going to be very one-sided as well.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Star428 on January 01, 2016, 12:53:34 AM
Roll ****ing Tide. :)
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on January 02, 2016, 12:53:12 PM
Bama 38, Michigan State 0.

I hate one-sided games.  Have a feeling the National Championship is going to be very one-sided as well.

It was a good game in the first half. Nice defensive struggle. But the Bama defense just kept crushing the MState offense... and after a score or two more, MState just folded.

Bama should win the title, but it will be a closer game. Clemson has better offense with a QB who can scramble well when needed.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on January 05, 2016, 02:30:32 PM
Championship prediction: Bama wins 35-20.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Star428 on January 12, 2016, 08:20:06 AM
Well, BAMA won the National Championship title... AGAIN. LOL. I've lost count how many National titles they have in football but I"m pretty sure it's more than anybody else... ROLL TIDE!!!
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 12, 2016, 10:07:25 AM
Once again the SEC stands above all.

I will give Clemson this, they were much better than the usual garbage that gets taken out come January, but the result is the same. :)
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on January 14, 2016, 01:36:17 PM
It was a great game. SEC does it again, even though the tide is slowly turning. SEC is not dominant like it once was.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 14, 2016, 03:09:42 PM
Well, the SEC has one big weakness. We are pretty much stacked in every position...except QB. Any of you see any SEC QB being a franchise player in the NFL?

That's the most important position in the game.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 05, 2016, 06:42:38 AM
Fun opening weekend with a lot of big match-ups.

Texas has some solid talent, and looked like a top 15 team. Alabama is ultra dominant as per usual. LSU has absolutely shit offense. TCU looked like horseshit. Ohio State should be in the mix this year if there QB is legit... still yet to be seen.

And Tennessee must be feeling great. People were giving them shit for barely beating App State... and then 3 teams ahead of them lose. Two losing to unranked opponents.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Clock on September 05, 2016, 12:01:48 PM
Nah, Tennessee still sucks :)
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 05, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
No doubt they were overrated as fuck. Top 25? Sure. Top 10? No.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on September 05, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
You suck, clock!!! :)

And I'm not surprised about upsets. Say what you will about NFL preseasons, but they do get you back into the feel of the game. Man, would I love to see Ole Miss beat Florida St.

Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 06, 2016, 07:24:12 PM
Ole Miss had them beat... and then what? Three turn overs later they lost. Yikes.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on September 06, 2016, 08:09:04 PM
Yeah, but now I know Alabama will curbstomp Florida St if they meet up...although I really hate Lane Kiffin getting any credit because he's human garbage. Hopefully some college team will want him to be a head coach and he can fail all by himself again.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on September 24, 2016, 08:36:08 PM
YESSSS!!!!!


****ING FINALLY!!! WE DID IT!!! WE ACTUALLY ***ING DID IT!!! GO DRINK BLEACH GATOR FANS!!! BLEACHERADE FOR ALL OF YOU MISERABLE SWAMP PESTS!!!
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 24, 2016, 10:24:48 PM
Yeah, fuck those Gators. You guys will probably beat my Bulldogs next week, but we can at least find camaraderie in hating those piece of shit retard gator-clapping Florida bastards. 
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on October 02, 2016, 09:45:38 AM
PTF, well... we should have beat you. But we gave up two dumb touchdowns (including that final Hail Mary) to gift wrap that win for you Vols.

Please note that we will come to your house and rock you next year when Eason is a sophomore.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 02, 2016, 12:02:05 PM
Dude, you and everyone need to learn that we're like the Super GlobeTrotters. We struggle in the first half a bit, then during half time we decide to power up and win.

...

I admit it probably would be a better idea to play our best through the entire game, but what do I know? I just compared a college football team to a poorly animated cartoon series based on basketball sports entertainment. :)
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on October 08, 2016, 09:15:26 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Oh well. Win some, lose some. Vols are probably going to get killed by Alabama. Man, I'm going to hate seeing Kiffin's smug punk ass face. Miserable piece of garbage.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on October 09, 2016, 02:12:38 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Oh well. Win some, lose some. Vols are probably going to get killed by Alabama. Man, I'm going to hate seeing Kiffin's smug punk ass face. Miserable piece of garbage.

Well, the Vols can't expect to come from behind each week and win. Especially with a half dozen turnovers.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Todd on October 13, 2016, 09:09:02 PM
Yeah, but now I know Alabama will curbstomp Florida St if they meet up...although I really hate Lane Kiffin getting any credit because he's human garbage. Hopefully some college team will want him to be a head coach and he can fail all by himself again.
i doubt it would be as bad as you think. I think florida st. Would stand a good chance at the upset. Thier defense just needs to show up.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on September 25, 2017, 12:59:45 PM
SEC is trash this year outside of Alabama (elite), Georgia (improving to really good), Auburn (decent), and that's fucking it. Vanderbilt is mediocre at best and beat that waaaaay overrated Kansas State team.

Outside the SEC, gotta say that Penn State is in the top 10 right now due purely to rep rather than any merit from this year. Every other top 10 would smoke them. HARD.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on November 28, 2017, 08:56:48 PM
SEC is trash this year outside of Alabama (elite), Georgia (improving to really good), Auburn (decent), and that's fucking it. Vanderbilt is mediocre at best and beat that waaaaay overrated Kansas State team.

Outside the SEC, gotta say that Penn State is in the top 10 right now due purely to rep rather than any merit from this year. Every other top 10 would smoke them. HARD.

Well, I was right about Penn State and UGA. Alabama was elite but had too many injuries... now just really good. Auburn is playing elite after having a just “good” first half of the season. But they may not have their star RB now.

Ohio State has a ton of talent, but they are too inconsistent in performance. If this was an 8-team playoff, they should be in. But they do not deserve a top 4 spot.
Title: Re: College Football Discussion
Post by: Master on January 02, 2018, 07:16:12 AM
I AM FREAKING OUT.