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Title: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: therock on April 04, 2018, 08:48:37 PM
https://www.thespec.com/opinion-story/8367927-no-hell-below-us-the-pope-says-souls-are-not-punished-/

The idea always seem fucked up when it came to a loving god.  that the one thing that held me back going full hog into religion. Namely when you talking litterally enternity. No sin bad enough for entenity..namely when it shit like simply not picking the right god
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Uhtceare on April 04, 2018, 10:19:24 PM
 Yeah, hell never made any sense, except as a way to sell a religion. After all, if the other religion just threatens to make you push a rock up a hill over and over if you're evil, and this religion sentences you to eternal agony for not obeying it's every tenant, that's a good motivation to go with the eternal agony religion. Worse case scenario, you're wrong and you get to do something boring for eternity.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 04, 2018, 10:24:43 PM
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. Matthew 24:24

Basically if it sounds like they're fulla shit... they're fulla shit.

The eternal stuff is something you gotta decide for yourself, Heaven or Hell or nothing at all, some guy everyone in a church said could play the Pope shouldn't be your go-to on the Afterlife.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 01:20:10 AM
The high priest of Baphomet is basically blurring the line between good and evil, anouncing to the world that there are no consequences for evil because there is no evil. So, as Crowley says "do as thou wilt" because there is no hell. Satanist scum.

And you fucking imbeciles are falling for it. But go ahead and listen to the head of the largest pedophile ring in the world teach you about heaven and hell :-\

Idiots
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 05, 2018, 09:00:29 AM
The high priest of Baphomet is basically blurring the line between good and evil, anouncing to the world that there are no consequences for evil because there is no evil. So, as Crowley says "do as thou wilt" because there is no hell. Satanist scum.

And you fucking imbeciles are falling for it. But go ahead and listen to the head of the largest pedophile ring in the world teach you about heaven and hell :-\

Idiots
The Bible is FILLED with pedophiles.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 11:35:57 AM
Ya and?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Panthergod on April 05, 2018, 11:56:03 AM
the concept of hell predates Christianity. "Eternal" damnation is clearly a system of social control, as Judaism and esoteric Christianity acknowledge reincarnation. If the Pope wants to call his God a liar than so be it.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: MTL76 on April 05, 2018, 12:10:43 PM
I’m not sure how this is of any particular interest to non-Catholics.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 05, 2018, 12:18:48 PM
Ya and?
If you'd ever read it you would have known that before I told you.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Panthergod on April 05, 2018, 12:27:19 PM
I’m not sure how this is of any particular interest to non-Catholics.

well, it gives credence  to the idea that the Catholic Church is the Anti Christ.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 01:13:54 PM
Ya and?
If you'd ever read it you would have known that before I told you.

I did already know that. Are you pointing it out to justify the Vatican pedophile ring?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 05, 2018, 01:24:37 PM
Ya and?
If you'd ever read it you would have known that before I told you.

I did already know that. Are you pointing it out to justify the Vatican pedophile ring?
I'm pointing it out because "Christians" love to hide their biblical cherry picking.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 01:27:29 PM
Prolly false Christians. Real Christians try their best to follow what Jesus says. Was Jesus ever for pedophilia?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Uhtceare on April 05, 2018, 01:47:01 PM
Back then it was standard to consider females to be women as soon as they bled. If he opposed this, he never said anything, and he was pretty outspoken about everything he opposed.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 01:53:12 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 05, 2018, 02:28:38 PM
He seemed a bit more chill than the people who claim to follow him now a days.

From a certain point of view it makes sense what Frank said about no Hell, I mean if you're a real "Christian" then you really don't need to worry about it... and if you're a non-believer what better way to get butts in the pews than to really sell Heaven and keep Hell on the down low.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Uhtceare on April 05, 2018, 02:58:02 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus

That doesn't say anything about age of consent. Offend is vague as hell. In context, it looks like he's implying that insulting them because they believe in Jesus is a sin.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 05, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus
That's a verse about what should happen to people who try to lead children into sinful lives. A victim is not guilty of the sin perpetrated by a pedophile.

Cherrypicking is standard practice for the modern "Christian".
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 04:44:11 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus

That doesn't say anything about age of consent. Offend is vague as hell. In context, it looks like he's implying that insulting them because they believe in Jesus is a sin.

I'm not talking about age of consent, I'm talking about pedophilia. Let me ask you this, would raping a kid be offensive?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: HalloweenJack on April 05, 2018, 05:10:18 PM
souls disappear.


so no Hell, just oblivion.

still not the greatest of outcomes.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 05, 2018, 05:33:31 PM
100% proof of that hypothesis?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Uhtceare on April 05, 2018, 05:46:09 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus

That doesn't say anything about age of consent. Offend is vague as hell. In context, it looks like he's implying that insulting them because they believe in Jesus is a sin.

I'm not talking about age of consent, I'm talking about pedophilia. Let me ask you this, would raping a kid be offensive?


To me? Yes. To someone from two thousand, or even two hundred years ago? Not so much. They tended to view boys as adults at 12, and girls as adults as soon as they bled.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 05, 2018, 05:50:32 PM
Don't they do that now in some of those Muslim countries (view them as adults)? Old dudes get married to 11-12 year olds?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 05, 2018, 06:04:28 PM
Don't they do that now in some of those Muslim countries (view them as adults)? Old dudes get married to 11-12 year olds?
They do that in the US.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: HalloweenJack on April 05, 2018, 06:09:44 PM
100% proof of that hypothesis?

what hypothesis?

I'm just summing up.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 05, 2018, 06:15:01 PM
Guess everyone will find out for sure one way or another.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 05, 2018, 06:30:50 PM
Not necessarily. For all we know quantum immortality is the truth. Not sure if that's the best option though.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Mightily Oats on April 05, 2018, 07:29:10 PM
Not necessarily. For all we know quantum immortality is the truth. Not sure if that's the best option though.
Quantum immortality ???
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: HalloweenJack on April 05, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
it's like immortality....only dire
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 05, 2018, 08:22:52 PM
Not necessarily. For all we know quantum immortality is the truth. Not sure if that's the best option though.
Quantum immortality ???

Basically its an offshoot of the Shrodinger's cat thought experiment. If you were to consider these three things, there is no afterlife, that all possibilities of an outcome happen and create alternate timelines, and we can't actually observe our own death, then our consciousness can only continue down the timeline where we don't die.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 05, 2018, 09:15:07 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus

That doesn't say anything about age of consent. Offend is vague as hell. In context, it looks like he's implying that insulting them because they believe in Jesus is a sin.

I'm not talking about age of consent, I'm talking about pedophilia. Let me ask you this, would raping a kid be offensive?


To me? Yes. To someone from two thousand, or even two hundred years ago? Not so much. They tended to view boys as adults at 12, and girls as adults as soon as they bled.

Dude. I'm talking about the evils of child rape, and you still think I'm talking about age if consent. Do you not know the difference?

Your moral relativism programming has you and Xerxes defending satanic pedophiles. Do you realize that?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 05, 2018, 09:59:46 PM
“But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea” - Jesus

That doesn't say anything about age of consent. Offend is vague as hell. In context, it looks like he's implying that insulting them because they believe in Jesus is a sin.

I'm not talking about age of consent, I'm talking about pedophilia. Let me ask you this, would raping a kid be offensive?


To me? Yes. To someone from two thousand, or even two hundred years ago? Not so much. They tended to view boys as adults at 12, and girls as adults as soon as they bled.

Dude. I'm talking about the evils of child rape, and you still think I'm talking about age if consent. Do you not know the difference?

Your moral relativism programming has you and Xerxes defending satanic pedophiles. Do you realize that?
Whoa, you've been caught advocating documented rampant pedophilia and you're trying to make this about us? Sad!
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 06, 2018, 11:39:53 AM
Lol
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Animalia on April 07, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
Not sure how much of this is true.
That wasnt an interview but more a privatr meeting between the Pope and Scalfari,like many other they had in the past.
Not that I give a fuck about heaven or hell,I just want Italy to become a secular state.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 07, 2018, 03:44:33 PM
I just want Italy to become a secular state.

Wait for the purge.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Animalia on April 07, 2018, 05:29:09 PM
Or maybe he'll end up like Pope Luciani did. :P
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 07, 2018, 05:44:44 PM
I had to google that, interesting history lesson. Grazie.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Animalia on April 08, 2018, 02:43:28 PM
Non c'è di che amico mio.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 08, 2018, 03:38:57 PM
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Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 09, 2018, 01:38:11 PM
https://www.rt.com/news/423487-vatican-city-arrest-clergyman/

Vatican clergymen arrested for child porn and sex trafficking.

Yep, I'm sure the pope wishes there was no hell.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 09, 2018, 03:14:43 PM
If they have a zero tolerance policy for sex abuse then when will all the other priests be arrested and jailed?
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Registered Sex Offender on April 09, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Good question. I wish I knew
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Animalia on April 10, 2018, 02:04:54 AM
He'll be punished hard.
He will be forced to say Ave Maria 3 times,that'll teach him how to behave.
Title: Re: the pope just put the devil out of business
Post by: Thorne on April 10, 2018, 10:25:25 AM
What, no stations of the cross? Buncha pussies.