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Title: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Uhtceare on February 12, 2018, 01:27:16 AM
Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Almighty Tallest on February 12, 2018, 01:30:05 AM
With no prep he'd be hard-pressed to win. She can phase through literally every gadget he has aside from maybe sonics? She's actually a pretty good martial-artist as she was trained by Logan and Ogun. And she can beat him up while staying phased. Or just phase him into something and threaten to let go like she did to Emma.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 12, 2018, 05:42:17 AM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can), she can beat Batman.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: MTL76 on February 12, 2018, 10:19:07 AM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can)

That thread was my proudest moment on Herochat.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Panthergod on February 12, 2018, 12:30:45 PM
Batman wins.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Almighty Tallest on February 12, 2018, 12:42:05 PM
Batman wins.

With what tactics? I'm genuinely curious as to what he'll use to fight off someone who can phase through all his attacks and most of his gadgets, insta-maim/kill him by dropping him into something, and hit him while remaining phased.

Who is also a solid fighter on her own.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Letters on February 12, 2018, 01:23:38 PM
Knockout dart in the split second she isn't phased.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Mightily Oats on February 12, 2018, 03:03:05 PM
Does Kitty not need to breathe while phased anymore?

Or is that a sometimes thing anyways?
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Almighty Tallest on February 12, 2018, 03:07:24 PM
Does Kitty not need to breathe while phased anymore?

Or is that a sometimes thing anyways?

She can breathe fine while phased. She has to hold her breath when phasing through solid objects though(like 30 feet of concrete) as there is no air inside the space to breathe. So she can only phase through solid stuff as long as she can hold her breath. Anytime else is fine.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Not BAMF on February 12, 2018, 03:50:33 PM
I might be wrong, but I think he's saying that since she breathes while phased, KO gas could take her out.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Almighty Tallest on February 12, 2018, 03:52:15 PM
I might be wrong, but I think he's saying that since she breathes while phased, KO gas could take her out.

She does breathe while phased. But she's also used to holding her breath on cue and for a very long time. She sees a grenade start emitting gas she's gonna hold it.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: XerxesTWD on February 12, 2018, 04:10:44 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can), she can beat Batman.
The reason she can beat Midnighter so effectively would not apply here.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 12, 2018, 04:53:08 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can)

That thread was my proudest moment on Herochat.
And one of my greatest creations.
Shit, i just now realized that musta disappeared when my posts were erased.   
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: MTL76 on February 12, 2018, 05:02:51 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can)

That thread was my proudest moment on Herochat.
And one of my greatest creations.
Shit, i just now realized that musta disappeared when my posts were erased.

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(http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Henry-Cavill-Angry.gif)
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Mightily Oats on February 12, 2018, 05:11:06 PM
Does Kitty not need to breathe while phased anymore?

Or is that a sometimes thing anyways?

She can breathe fine while phased. She has to hold her breath when phasing through solid objects though(like 30 feet of concrete) as there is no air inside the space to breathe. So she can only phase through solid stuff as long as she can hold her breath. Anytime else is fine.
I might be wrong, but I think he's saying that since she breathes while phased, KO gas could take her out.

She does breathe while phased. But she's also used to holding her breath on cue and for a very long time. She sees a grenade start emitting gas she's gonna hold it.
She used to holding her breath while trying to KO someone who's vastly physically superior to her and also far more skilled than she is?

Yeah Kitty is B-list, that's great, but against one of the kings of the A-list?

Night night, Kitty cat
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 12, 2018, 05:45:57 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can)

That thread was my proudest moment on Herochat.
And one of my greatest creations.
Shit, i just now realized that musta disappeared when my posts were erased.

...

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(http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Henry-Cavill-Angry.gif)
Bummer, yeah.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Panthergod on February 12, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
Batman wins.

With what tactics? I'm genuinely curious as to what he'll use to fight off someone who can phase through all his attacks and most of his gadgets, insta-maim/kill him by dropping him into something, and hit him while remaining phased.

Who is also a solid fighter on her own.

Same ones Cassandra Cain used against Shadow Thief.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 12, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
Was there an explanation how she was able to hit Shadow Thief? IIRC, she simply copied his moves but not sure how her copying martial arts skill translate to her KOing Shadow Thief.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: MTL76 on February 12, 2018, 09:06:56 PM
Shadow Thief had to turn tangible to hit her, and she hit him in the chest, which made him have a heart attack.

Kitty doesn’t need to turn tangible to mess someone up.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 12, 2018, 09:48:11 PM
OK, thanks for the explanation about that fight.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Letters on February 12, 2018, 10:22:26 PM
Batman throws a knockout gas grenade. Kitty turns intangible. Batman sneaks up on her and scares her. Kitty inhales the gas due to her frightening surprise. Knockout.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Almighty Tallest on February 12, 2018, 10:29:58 PM
You can't really startle her into doing that. Firstly she's an actual ninja, so sneaking up on her in the middle of a fight is gonna be hard even for Batman.

Secondly she's got so much control over her powers she can walk on molecules and phase certain parts of her body. Her entire body could be phased while her hands and feet are solid to hit him. Or she could just phase the ground under him and let him fall into nothingness.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Letters on February 12, 2018, 10:46:51 PM
Batman sneaks up on way more skilled ninjas all the time. And she's a girl, so she's inherently frightened.

He might just scare her out of intangible mode and smack her up.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Dlbiininja on February 12, 2018, 11:38:06 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can), she can beat Batman.
The reason she can beat Midnighter so effectively would not apply here.

Ruh? How so.  Her being in a phased state isn't something that is noticeable until she makes it so.  She'd honestly be able to give bats a hell of a fight. She's not a subpar rookie.  And if she opted to even partially phase bats into anything it's instantly over.  For as long as I've read bats and I could have missed something I don't recall him countering someone while phased. 
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Not BAMF on February 13, 2018, 08:39:18 AM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can), she can beat Batman.
The reason she can beat Midnighter so effectively would not apply here.

Ruh? How so.  Her being in a phased state isn't something that is noticeable until she makes it so.  She'd honestly be able to give bats a hell of a fight. She's not a subpar rookie.  And if she opted to even partially phase bats into anything it's instantly over.  For as long as I've read bats and I could have missed something I don't recall him countering someone while phased.

The reason Kitty beats Midnighter with contemptuous ease is the fact that he has a computer inside him, and when Kitty phases through electronics, they malfunction and blow up. He's a walking, talking weakness to her.

Bats doesn't have that problem.

Still, this is a 50/50 situation at worst for her. He COULD beat her if his circumstances and timing are flawlessly perfect, but if he is off even by a fraction, she's going to get him.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: fangirl101 on February 13, 2018, 12:36:40 PM
First of fucking all, Batman sneaks up and away on amd from fucking Mind reading, invisible, superstar, phasing Martians. Kitty is shit here.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Not BAMF on February 13, 2018, 12:52:01 PM
So the standard for this fight is that Batman is hunting Kitty, and she has no idea where he is or that she's being hunted?

And are you talking about Morrison's run on JLA where the martians had an utter contempt for and lack of respect for Batman's abilities, and he knew their weakness when they had no idea he knew it?
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: fangirl101 on February 13, 2018, 01:42:00 PM
So the standard for this fight is that Batman is hunting Kitty, and she has no idea where he is or that she's being hunted?

And are you talking about Morrison's run on JLA where the martians had an utter contempt for and lack of respect for Batman's abilities, and he knew their weakness when they had no idea he knew it?
How many times has he gotten the drop on Flashes or Elites and Kitty is supposed to be a threat her? She is Kod with sonics and blinded with flash grenades. Bitch still needs to see.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: INDRA THUNDERER on February 13, 2018, 02:13:42 PM
So the standard for this fight is that Batman is hunting Kitty, and she has no idea where he is or that she's being hunted?

And are you talking about Morrison's run on JLA where the martians had an utter contempt for and lack of respect for Batman's abilities, and he knew their weakness when they had no idea he knew it?
Except Batman has snuck up on Superman,& the JLA so precedence is real!
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Not BAMF on February 13, 2018, 03:31:18 PM
And then he defeated them in a non-prep-time-based fight? Or is the precedence both real AND irrelevant? Were they actively engaged in combat with him when he snuck up on them?


Look, I'm not saying Kitty wins this fight. But I AM saying "OMG HE IS SNEEKY" is the stupidest rationale in the universe here.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: MTL76 on February 13, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Batman beats Kitty.

Kitty beats Midnighter.

It’s a great start to the New Year for ICT.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Letters on February 13, 2018, 05:07:45 PM
And then he defeated them in a non-prep-time-based fight? Or is the precedence both real AND irrelevant? Were they actively engaged in combat with him when he snuck up on them?

(http://s16.postimg.org/q59hdrjd1/Nng_LBgdh.jpg)

And yes he does win.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Snake-eyes on February 13, 2018, 05:24:54 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can), she can beat Batman.
The reason she can beat Midnighter so effectively would not apply here.

Doesn't Batman have multiple electronic gadgets, including a tazer built into his suit?
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Mightily Oats on February 13, 2018, 05:40:21 PM
If she can beat Midnighter (she can), she can beat Batman.
The reason she can beat Midnighter so effectively would not apply here.

Doesn't Batman have multiple electronic gadgets, including a tazer built into his suit?
You mean the suit that's insulated against that tazer, and so if she shortcircuited that out it wouldn't do anything?

Jesus christ you've actually gotten worse at this as you've gotten older.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Snake-eyes on February 13, 2018, 05:48:45 PM
*yawn*

Wow, dial your meltdown back a few notches. are you still that mad from when I made fun of you for saying that Captain America throwing his shield had nothing to do with strength?
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 13, 2018, 06:18:37 PM
^^^Its not a meltdown, its just how one sounds when dealing with fanboys.

...Look, I'm not saying Kitty wins this fight. But I AM saying "OMG HE IS SNEEKY" is the stupidest rationale in the universe here.
This is the risk one takes when starting/participating in a Bat thread.
A lot of times they literally die out in 2-3 responses because thats the bulk of the answers you get. 
A lot of times they literally go on forever...because that's the bulk of the answers you get.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 13, 2018, 10:19:29 PM
Well that is what you get when dealing with Batman threads. You get the same treatment like Dr. Hugo Strange and those aliens.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Snake-eyes on February 14, 2018, 12:06:47 AM
^^^Its not a meltdown, its just how one sounds when dealing with fanboys.

I'm a Kitty Pryde fanboy?
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: pittfox on February 14, 2018, 12:18:43 AM
This is close. I'd give Kitty the very slight advantage.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 14, 2018, 12:21:37 AM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/28/d5/ef28d51baf9d9eb88516596030a39efe--kitty-pryde-dc-comic.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 14, 2018, 12:26:32 AM
^^^nooice!
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: AP on February 14, 2018, 02:23:24 AM
^^^Its not a meltdown, its just how one sounds when dealing with fanboys.

I'm a Kitty Pryde fanboy?

You're an anti-fanboy.  You seem to have a weird hate-boner for Batman.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Snake-eyes on February 14, 2018, 02:26:50 AM
^^^Its not a meltdown, its just how one sounds when dealing with fanboys.

I'm a Kitty Pryde fanboy?

You're an anti-fanboy.  You seem to have a weird hate-boner for Batman.

No, I hate Wolverine. I'm apathetic about Batman.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 14, 2018, 02:39:23 AM
Sith apprentice this human seems.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Snake-eyes on February 14, 2018, 02:47:28 AM
Better than being a Wolverine fan.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 14, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
Snagged a larger copy from Pinterst:

(https://i.imgur.com/9Hu4YfM.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 14, 2018, 06:02:41 AM
Those mock ups are great. I rarely ever see a bad one.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: AP on February 14, 2018, 05:35:09 PM
Yeah, they usually look really good.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Commander on February 14, 2018, 09:17:30 PM
There's a mock up of Kitty being Bat's apprentice and having to kill a Robin who will turn evil in the future.
Title: Re: Batman vs Kitty Pryde
Post by: Riv1 on February 15, 2018, 01:19:11 AM
^^^found some good ones just now, but nothing to match that.