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Title: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Riv1 on January 10, 2018, 05:54:18 AM
Superman. Spidey. Batman.
These are not only classic origins, but parodied/homaged so often even non comics fans know them.

Villains though, what have -they- got? What are the classic villain origins, if any.
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Uhtceare on January 10, 2018, 06:14:17 AM
Magneto
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Riv1 on January 10, 2018, 06:47:30 AM
So what's his origin? What makes it classic?
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: The Shuruku Demon on January 10, 2018, 08:20:43 AM
If it counts, I really like the Fly's origin, from the movies. Particularly the 1986 remake, although I like the original as well. The whole telepod thing strongly appealed to me as a Star Trek fan, and the use to which it was put to create a movie monster was very inventive, not to mention tragic, since they did a good job of getting me to care about the main characters.
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Sick Nick on January 10, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
Joker

Doom's got a cool origin but it's kind of a mish-mash of lots of other cool origins e.g. mad scientist, Man With The Iron Mask etc.
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Dlbiininja on January 10, 2018, 03:03:54 PM
For me I've gotta say Venom. 
He was totally an unexpected.  But, I feel one of the more relevant & impactful villians to be created. 
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Strawman Abridged on January 10, 2018, 04:26:15 PM
The deformed/scarred masked genius - The Phantom of the Opera?

Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Strawman Abridged on January 10, 2018, 04:48:45 PM
Pretty much the major literary fictional villains's origins really

Frankenstein, Dracula, Captain Ahab, SATAN


Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Riv1 on January 10, 2018, 11:46:06 PM
^^^nice call(s).
I was actually going to add Tarzan to my list of heroes in the OP, as his is an almost universally known origin, with a ton of different takes done on it.
If it counts, I really like the Fly's origin, from the movies. Particularly the 1986 remake, although I like the original as well. The whole telepod thing strongly appealed to me as a Star Trek fan, and the use to which it was put to create a movie monster was very inventive, not to mention tragic, since they did a good job of getting me to care about the main characters.
I'd say it counts, its good you guys are going outside of comics!
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Jabroniville on January 11, 2018, 03:22:15 AM
Darth Vader. I mean, pre-prequels, it was "a great hero who fell to the Dark Side". That's pretty timeless and classic.

Magneto's became pretty classic, though it's not as known to the general public. It may or may not hurt that his origin came like 15 years after his debut.

Venom's is classic enough that it's more or less copied directly in every adaptation. That says something.
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Riv1 on January 11, 2018, 06:03:39 AM
Darth Vader. I mean, pre-prequels, it was "a great hero who fell to the Dark Side". That's pretty timeless and classic.

Magneto's became pretty classic, though it's not as known to the general public. It may or may not hurt that his origin came like 15 years after his debut.

Venom's is classic enough that it's more or less copied directly in every adaptation. That says something.
I can see Vader!
Magneto's has been done well, though, in the X movies, i will definitely say that.
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: MTL76 on January 11, 2018, 05:38:27 PM
Doctor Doom. Handsome and wealthy, but evil and twisted inside, and then scarred on the outside by his own ego and hubris.

Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: therock on January 11, 2018, 07:43:49 PM
Batman ones got some good ones that seem iconic


Two Face

Harley

Man bat

Mr Freeze- Even though dont like Snyder twist on it

Joker


Lot of people did the catwoman falling of a building thing
Title: Re: Are there any really classic villain origins?
Post by: Riv1 on January 12, 2018, 12:49:32 AM
Batman ones got some good ones that seem iconic


Two Face

Harley

Man bat

Mr Freeze- Even though dont like Snyder twist on it

Joker


Lot of people did the catwoman falling of a building thing
Most of those are -good- origins.