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Title: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 12, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-protest-white-nationalist.html?referer=https://t.co/8QFs6zs5Gs?amp=1&referer=

Tldr: 10 minutes into crossburn and chill shit turned violent and one man is dead.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 12, 2017, 04:18:59 PM
One of the speakers, Richard Spencer, an “alt-right” activist, said he had been maced on the way into the park and lashed out at police and city authorities. “Never in my life have I felt like the government was cracking down on me until today,” said Spencer, who was flush faced. “We came in peace and we were effectively thrown to the wolves.”

He said that “militarized police”, whom he compared to “stormtroopers”, “did not protect us, they funneled us towards the antifa ... I am a citizen of the USA,” he continued. “I have rights under our constitution.”


I wonder if he gets the irony? Probably not.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 12, 2017, 04:21:07 PM
Saw a video of a bunch of antifa people getting run over. Was pretty disturbing and reminiscint of various recent "terror" attacks.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 12, 2017, 05:19:21 PM
I saw a chick with hairy ass armpits and them threw up.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 12, 2017, 07:05:49 PM
Ok, far enough. The thing I'm referring to was related to the citronella march, but during the day and the other side
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 12, 2017, 08:17:28 PM
havent been watching the news
on break now
turns out someone use a car to run over anti protester 3 people dead
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 12, 2017, 08:25:38 PM
See 3 posts up, but yes
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 12, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
Were they blocking traffic?  If Antifa was involved I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 12, 2017, 09:11:15 PM
Were they blocking traffic?  If Antifa was involved I wouldn't be surprised.

There's a video. It was very intentional
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 12, 2017, 09:27:32 PM
Was a 20 yr old named James Alex Fields Jr from Ohio who did it. White republican etc. Not that there's anything wrong with that. If I had to guess the profile of the driver I'd probably have guessed basically this. #profiling
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 12, 2017, 09:36:59 PM
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Kind of thing you know Trump would be labeling as a terrorist action if the kid was of a different demographic. Speaking of graphic, if this is too much, I'll take it down.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Master on August 12, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
"Racism being a problem is over-exaggerated... I mean, we elected a black president!"

"Racial tensions in this country have been worse than ever since Obama was elected."

I think we will be hearing more of #2 and less of #1 for the next month.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 12, 2017, 10:21:21 PM
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Kind of thing you know Trump would be labeling as a terrorist action if the kid was of a different demographic. Speaking of graphic, if this is too much, I'll take it down.

hey now

trump said many sides to blame for this

many many sides
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 12, 2017, 11:31:54 PM
White nationalist, the Republicans that won't speak out, internet trolls, Russia. Many sides.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Master on August 13, 2017, 07:52:39 AM
White Nationalists on social media have been pleased with Trump's reaction, noting that he is blaming both sides for the hate.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 13, 2017, 10:39:23 AM
White Nationalists on social media have been pleased with Trump's reaction, noting that he is blaming both sides for the hate.

They also like he didnt mention their groups by name. Which is odd since we were told by a certain orange monster that, doing that is important.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 13, 2017, 10:54:04 AM
Trump is correct in blaming both "sides", though that word seems like it's making the situation more trivial than it is. Political violence is unfortunately becoming more and more acceptable across the entire political spectrum. Each episode enables the next, by giving people the desire for revenge, desensitizing people to the outcome, or making people think the consequences won't be that bad for them if they do commit an act. It needs to be stop-checked, every single time, by people from all ideological backgrounds. If there are "sides", it's people who think political violence is acceptable, and people who think it isn't. That means not aligning yourself with people who you may agree with politically, but who engage in violence.

Anyone who thinks what happened in Charlottesville is deplorable, but who thinks Antifa attacking people in Berkeley is warranted, is a hypocrite and is part of the problem. Anyone who made a joke about the shooting of Steve Scalise is part of the problem. Anyone who laughs when people who are peacefully protesting Trump are attacked is part of the problem. Yes, that includes Trump himself. Everyone across the ideological spectrum needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 13, 2017, 11:31:59 AM
Trump is correct in blaming both "sides", though that word seems like it's making the situation more trivial than it is. Political violence is unfortunately becoming more and more acceptable across the entire political spectrum. Each episode enables the next, by giving people the desire for revenge, desensitizing people to the outcome, or making people think the consequences won't be that bad for them if they do commit an act. It needs to be stop-checked, every single time, by people from all ideological backgrounds. If there are "sides", it's people who think political violence is acceptable, and people who think it isn't. That means not aligning yourself with people who you may agree with politically, but who engage in violence.

Anyone who thinks what happened in Charlottesville is deplorable, but who thinks Antifa attacking people in Berkeley is warranted, is a hypocrite and is part of the problem. Anyone who made a joke about the shooting of Steve Scalise is part of the problem. Anyone who laughs when people who are peacefully protesting Trump are attacked is part of the problem. Yes, that includes Trump himself. Everyone across the ideological spectrum needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.


Think the difference is your will to name names of the people you think responbill in each examples

If it was the other way around. Like if a muslim guy ran over these people..he would be talking about radical islam..not just both sides. Hell you can say both sides. Radical islman..and white supremist. The fact he didnt mention them, make me think he didn't want to pissed off some of his base

And the issue is  what Donald trump has more of a effect then your average blogger or message board poster. That why people who make Jokes about shooting scalete, (or  laugh of a Trump protester getting attack tend not to be people in postion of power politcal power.). Because they fucking know better.  He not the "Lets dial the rhetroic down" type of guy. He ok for doing it for a day or two but this asshole will be back on twitter saying crazy shit.

It cant be ignored this dude got into republican eyes, doing the Obama is a muslim immigrant, he didnt really go to college, and I have a team of investigators that found evidence. He did this well passed the point of Sanity. Talked about a fake black crimes against white crime statistics, That muslims were celebrating 911 in Jersey. He had the immigrant were rapist and murders

if your a Trump person who think this is all true...the SANE choice is to do something crazy. Then it appointing Bannon and Bribert guys. Bribert with a black crime section.  Which would be ok...statistics is good but that would apply there a white crime section

Now one might say

"Of course Rock. I know the president words has more of an affect then some Random asshole on the net. Your strawmanning me"

I know you know that to makes things clear. But the question is does TRUMP know that. Because it appear he doesnt know what the president says has impact. It had impact when he was nominee. He not just some random asshole. He a very important asshole.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 13, 2017, 11:41:46 AM
TL;DR of Rock's statement:
Think the Scalia shooting and the vehicular manslaughter in this case are very different than punching Spencer. You could say it's all violence and a slippery slope etc, but mace or a fist (used once or twice) is very different than a bullet or a car. So I agree in part but I think the gulf btwn this or the Scalia shooting and making jokes about Spencer getting punched is a wide one. Clearly I'm one who took pleasure in the Spencer punch but it certainly isn't the only punch or comupence for a bully  that I found satisfying. That chubby kid body slamming the kid who was tormenting him for example? I could watch that all day. In short this is terrorism, as it is when a Muslim extremist acts, or a cop killer, however there aren't as many caviotes or people saying "well it happens from other groups too" when it's a Muslim. In fact, when it's a Muslim you have guys like Riv and ProjectCornDog advocating killing every single one of them.

tl;dr of my statement: violence has degrees of awfulness, and when there's death of an innocent person involved? That's awful and inexcusable regardless of the motivation, but don't play down some motivations while playing up others. (which for the record, I don't think anyone here is doing)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 11:47:24 AM
Trump is correct in blaming both "sides", though that word seems like it's making the situation more trivial than it is. Political violence is unfortunately becoming more and more acceptable across the entire political spectrum. Each episode enables the next, by giving people the desire for revenge, desensitizing people to the outcome, or making people think the consequences won't be that bad for them if they do commit an act. It needs to be stop-checked, every single time, by people from all ideological backgrounds. If there are "sides", it's people who think political violence is acceptable, and people who think it isn't. That means not aligning yourself with people who you may agree with politically, but who engage in violence.

Anyone who thinks what happened in Charlottesville is deplorable, but who thinks Antifa attacking people in Berkeley is warranted, is a hypocrite and is part of the problem. Anyone who made a joke about the shooting of Steve Scalise is part of the problem. Anyone who laughs when people who are peacefully protesting Trump are attacked is part of the problem. Yes, that includes Trump himself. Everyone across the ideological spectrum needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.

From a methodology and a general sense? Yeah Antifa has got to knock off with the instigating violence shit.

Strictly speaking from these events? I haven't seen or heard of evidence that the counter protest instigated the violence. We do know at least one white nationalist murdered and hurt a bunch of people so I'm gonna put most of the blame on the white nationalist.

From a ideological stand point? I'm gonna side with the anti fascist than with the people flying swastikas and the confederate flag.   
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 13, 2017, 11:49:17 AM
My bad, guys.  I mistook the brake pedal for the gas pedal for a brief moment.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 13, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
Scourge - There are degrees of violence, sure. But you're mistaken if you think that the danger of a slippery slope isn't very real, or that a trivial act of violence, when normalized, won't lead to a climate that allows further acts of violence. We're seeing this play out in real time, right now.

Neo - I've seen clips of street fighting between the two groups from Charlottesville. "Who started it" is irrelevant. It's very much in line with Antifa's past rhetoric and behavior. It's very much in line with white nationalist past rhetoric and behavior. The cops should have immediately moved in and dealt with both sides objectively. As they should every time. This is where a broken windows crime prevention philosophy comes into play. Keep these two groups separated.5

Liquid - As soon as I saw it was an American muscle car, I started praying it didn't have Michigan plates.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 12:14:48 PM
Who started it is absolutely relevant. No matter what the argument is, if someone takes a swing at you you're always justified to take a swing back.

And, like I said, Antifa isn't completely innocent. The side that resorted to vehicular manslaughter should get most of the blame though.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 13, 2017, 12:18:09 PM
re: the slippery slope of violence. I don't know. School yard fights have been around for however long there have been schools. It's normalized, usually uncalled for/inappropriate, but that level of violence is somewhat normalzied just the same. Killings at school though are no more normalized than they were since Columbine. Not saying that slippery slope is impossible, but I compare a punch to weed and a gun to heroine. Both illegal drugs, but the lack of concern about one does not instantly mean a lack of concern about the other. Gateway theory be damned.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 13, 2017, 12:23:16 PM
Yes, but the people who engage in the schoolyard fights still get detention. They don't get punished as harshly as if they killed someone, but they get a proportional punishment. And that deters more extreme behavior.

So no, punching a political opponent isn't nearly as bad as running them over with a car, and shouldn't be punished nearly as harshly. But both should be punished, and both should be condemned by all people. The less extreme behavior shouldn't be glorified as harmless fun.

I'm not theorizing here. We are seeing the results of what happens when this isn't done right now.

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 13, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
TL;DR of Rock's statement:
Think the Scalia shooting and the vehicular manslaughter in this case are very different than punching Spencer. You could say it's all violence and a slippery slope etc, but mace or a fist (used once or twice) is very different than a bullet or a car. So I agree in part but I think the gulf btwn this or the Scalia shooting and making jokes about Spencer getting punched is a wide one. Clearly I'm one who took pleasure in the Spencer punch but it certainly isn't the only punch or comupence for a bully  that I found satisfying. That chubby kid body slamming the kid who was tormenting him for example? I could watch that all day. In short this is terrorism, as it is when a Muslim extremist acts, or a cop killer, however there aren't as many caviotes or people saying "well it happens from other groups too" when it's a Muslim. In fact, when it's a Muslim you have guys like Riv and ProjectCornDog advocating killing every single one of them.

tl;dr of my statement: violence has degrees of awfulness, and when there's death of an innocent person involved? That's awful and inexcusable regardless of the motivation, but don't play down some motivations while playing up others. (which for the record, I don't think anyone here is doing)


basicly shorter version. Most people on the other side who say "hahaha wouldnt it be totes hillarious people shot people at the trump rally"  tends not to be in position of political power like donald trump. Since they tend to know better

And trump needs to learn his words, what he does, who he hires, matters now.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 13, 2017, 12:30:08 PM
Yes, but the people who engage in the schoolyard fights still get detention. They don't get punished as harshly as if they killed someone, but they get a proportional punishment. And that deters more extreme behavior.

So no, punching a political opponent isn't nearly as bad as running them over with a car, and shouldn't be punished nearly as harshly. But both should be punished, and both should be condemned by all people. The less extreme behavior shouldn't be glorified as harmless fun.

I'm not theorizing here. We are seeing the results of what happens when this isn't done right now.



You can't with any kind of certainty say that punching by antifa/white supremecists and some level of general acceptance of that behavior is what lead to the actions of the driver. So theorizing is exactly what you're doing.

Also note that despite the level of acceptance of that punching, there doesn't seem to be any acceptance of the car incident.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 12:30:55 PM
Yes, but the people who engage in the schoolyard fights still get detention. They don't get punished as harshly as if they killed someone, but they get a proportional punishment. And that deters more extreme behavior.

So no, punching a political opponent isn't nearly as bad as running them over with a car, and shouldn't be punished nearly as harshly. But both should be punished, and both should be condemned by all people. The less extreme behavior shouldn't be glorified as harmless fun.

I'm not theorizing here. We are seeing the results of what happens when this isn't done right now.



oh yeah if you get caught as part of the violence you should be punished. This is more about the whole "both sides of are to blame" argument. Simply stating that give the impression that this is a 50/50 split and it completely negates the ideological stances of the sides which is extremely important to the discussion.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 13, 2017, 12:42:11 PM
Just want to follow up and for the most part say violence is not something I'm a fan of, despite the few exceptions of it being of a minor level and to someone who from my world view deserves it. I'd watch someone pelting Kim Jong Um with a shoe with a big damn smile on my face for example.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 13, 2017, 12:43:41 PM
Yes, but the people who engage in the schoolyard fights still get detention. They don't get punished as harshly as if they killed someone, but they get a proportional punishment. And that deters more extreme behavior.

So no, punching a political opponent isn't nearly as bad as running them over with a car, and shouldn't be punished nearly as harshly. But both should be punished, and both should be condemned by all people. The less extreme behavior shouldn't be glorified as harmless fun.

I'm not theorizing here. We are seeing the results of what happens when this isn't done right now.



You can't with any kind of certainty say that punching by antifa/white supremecists and some level of general acceptance of that behavior is what lead to the actions of the driver. So theorizing is exactly what you're doing.

Also note that despite the level of acceptance of that punching, there doesn't seem to be any acceptance of the car incident.

I'm sure there are plenty of white nationalists who are perfectly fine with what the driver did. "Hey, those Antifa fucks were attacking us. Fuck 'em."

I'm sure there are plenty of Antifas who will use this as motivation to commit acts of violence. "Hey, they drove a car into us. They have it coming."

And if some random guy in a MAGA hat or some woman with a gay rights shirt gets caught up in it, well, there's always collateral damage in War.

But let's just let it play out and see how it goes.

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Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 13, 2017, 12:53:44 PM
Yeah, you're right, I have no doubt. I'm also certain that playing it out would be awful. I shouldn't say there's no acceptance. There's no public acceptance. Some white nationalists are prob thrilled about it. Some anti-fa very well may use this as a justification to escalate violence (though I of course hope not). I'm with you on this stuff and condemning it (as far as I can tell). And in general condem most violence, and maybe it is easier to just take an approach of complete black and white here, but I don't. Just as I don't with many issues, I don't think. Though I think in large strokes I agree with a lot of what you're putting out there. Just not %100.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 12:54:22 PM
Just want to follow up and for the most part say violence is not something I'm a fan of, despite the few exceptions of it being of a minor level and to someone who from my world view deserves it. I'd watch someone pelting Kim Jong Um with a shoe with a big damn smile on my face for example.

I definitely enjoyed Richard Spencer getting punched in the face. I mean the guys main goal in politics would involve me being forcibly removed from the country. I think I'm entitled to enjoying that.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: scourge on August 13, 2017, 12:58:18 PM
I think you are definetly in the clear enjoying that, and that does not by any stretch imply an acceptance of greater violence. Which I guess is the crux of everything I'm saying.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 13, 2017, 01:18:11 PM
The problem I had with the Spencer punching is that its justification lies in that it's ok to punch a Nazi. The term Nazi has now been expanded to include a huge swathe of Americans, including all Trump supporters, not by you or Neo, but by a lot of the people doing the punching.

One can make a similar observation about the label of Antifa. Lots of people consider anyone at an anti-Trump protest as Antifa, without bothering to ask them. Antifa's now listed as a terrorist organization in New Jersey, by the way.

So yes, barring a bizarre exception, using violence against someone expressing their views nonviolently is something I'm 100% against, because it doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
While Trump Supporters don't deserve to be labeled Nazis A lot of people on the right need to start condemning the people being raised up as leaders on the right like Dukes and Spencer. These guys are getting way too popular and co-oping a good portion of the right base. I can't even read my local news FB comment on this stuff straight up defending them as a whole.

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 13, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
Think I would put bannon up there as the far fringe

Bribert has embrace the alt right.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
Oh yeah that self fellating asshole too.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Rufio on August 13, 2017, 02:34:38 PM
Donald Trump's consistent failure to condemn specific racists (David Duke, Richard Spencer, the driver here) is getting as odd as his inability to say a bad word about Russia.

That said, I do agree with MTL.

Way too many mainstream journalists have been okay defending "progressive" figures who support oppressive and violent ideologies. An extreme example of this is Linda Sarsour, who praised convicted murderers, implied that conservative religious (Sharia) law is a good thing, wrote a hateful and violent comment about a former Muslim who supports secular democracy and equal rights (Aayan Hirsi Ali), and called Jake Tapper "alt-right" for simply asking those on the mainstream left to speak out against the praising of extremist murderers.

The biggest problem in mainstream coverage of events like this is the lack of nuance. We should be able to separate bad ideologies (Richard Spencer's, Linda Sarsour's) from debatable arguments about culture, police brutality, and immigration (a good example is Sam Harris' recent debate with Fareed Zakaria).


Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/anthony-scaramucci-trump-hes-bannon/story?id=49053098

Speaking of Bannon, Mooch is gunning for him. Like a wise man once set "Let them fight"
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 13, 2017, 02:59:00 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/anthony-scaramucci-trump-hes-bannon/story?id=49053098

Speaking of Bannon, Mooch is gunning for him. Like a wise man once set "Let them fight"

hmmm If I had to pick a side, go with the guy I would go to a strip club with. Which of course the mooch

Bannon you could take but he would do something to make it weird

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 03:05:23 PM
Like try and suck his own dick.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 13, 2017, 04:25:36 PM
All this white on white violence smh
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 13, 2017, 09:39:52 PM
Donald Trump's consistent failure to condemn specific racists (David Duke, Richard Spencer, the driver here) is getting as odd as his inability to say a bad word about Russia.

That said, I do agree with MTL.

Same.

Antifa is every bit as hateful and violent as those Nazis, imo.  These people have been arrested beating the shit out of people because they heard things they didn't like to hear.  One of their people smacked a poor bastard over the head with a bike lock while he was positioning himself to avoid the two sides clashing.  As for blocking trafficking, in my opinion, that's a shitty and dangerous thing to do.  Fuck both sides as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 13, 2017, 09:51:17 PM
What in the fuck
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Bran Mak Morn on August 13, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
Jesus Fucking Christ.

On my FB page, an alleged article written by Andrew Anglin for The Daily Stormer.

HEATHER HEYER: WOMAN KILLED IN ROAD RAGE INCIDENT WAS A FAT, CHILDLESS 32 YEAR OLD SLUT
"The woman killed in yesterday's road rage incident has been identified as Heather Heyer, a 32 year old overweight slob with no children.
Despite feigned outrage by the media, most people are glad she is dead, as she is the definition of uselessness. A 32 year old woman without children is a burden on society & has no value.

Due to female privilege, and the fact that they do virtually nothing their entire lives, women live an average of 5 years longer than men. The average female lifespan is 81 years. That means 49 more years, this fat slob would have been leeching off of men's work.

Childless women are black hole vortexes of public money & energy.
Had she not died yesterday, hundreds of thousands of dollars would have been spent on propping-up the gross creature who had failed to do her most basic duty-her only real duty, in fact- and reproduce.

Having no children at that age, it can be assumed that she hd multiple abortions, & was thus herself a child murderer.

A Dodge Challenger is a fast car. Fat people like Heather fatty fat are slow, slow,slow.
In the video, you can clearly see that most people dodge the charging Dodge. Heather was unable to dodge th Dodge, because she was, "just too fucking fat to really move much at all" according to one observer..."
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 13, 2017, 11:04:52 PM
Damn.  I hope that's an Onion article or something.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 13, 2017, 11:05:53 PM
The onion wouldn't write something that was straight mean spirited.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Bran Mak Morn on August 13, 2017, 11:20:47 PM
The Daily Stormer. An American neo Nazi news & commentary website.


Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 13, 2017, 11:25:39 PM
The Daily Stormer. An American neo Nazi news & commentary website.

Ugh.  No wonder.

You have a fb friend who subscribes to that shit?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Bran Mak Morn on August 13, 2017, 11:49:51 PM

You have a fb friend who subscribes to that shit?

Never say, "Hitler had a cool moustache" on FB.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 13, 2017, 11:56:27 PM
They had snazzy uniforms, not gonna lie.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Bran Mak Morn on August 14, 2017, 12:07:59 AM
More from the same article:

"The same day as the crash, Dodge was promoting a "Roadkill Nights" event. It is extremely coincidental that Dodge would be promoting "Roadkill Nights" the same day a driver of their vehicle roadkill a fat woman. This incident is extremely good viral advertising for Dodge, and I have no doubt they will start advertising the Challenger as a "fatty smasher." They may also use the slogan "Dodge this!"

However it is unlikely that James Fields would agree to be involved in a publicity stunt like this, as he is likely facing life in prison."
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Master on August 14, 2017, 06:43:07 AM
Yeah, what a bunch of fucking scum bags.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 14, 2017, 08:08:11 AM
Looks like Anonymous took over Daily Stormer.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/14/anonymous-hackers-take-over-neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-charlottesville-heather-heyer (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/14/anonymous-hackers-take-over-neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-charlottesville-heather-heyer)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 14, 2017, 08:22:54 AM
The onion wouldn't write something that was straight mean spirited.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXtGpa3h1tN/?hl=en&taken-by=theonion
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Red Exodus on August 14, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
As per usual, the first amendment continues to show how much of a double edged
sword that it is.

Seriously, racial protests (i.e. KKK-themed and similar to this) need to be outright
banned. NOTHING good comes from them. These clusterfuck of less than human
scum have no right to say a goddamn thing.

Also, glad to hear Liquid is okay. He missed the black guys and hit a white woman
though, so he's probably on the suicide watch for that slip-up.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 14, 2017, 11:00:12 AM
Poor Red is so deeply scared by my existence.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Dlbiininja on August 14, 2017, 12:40:14 PM
Looks like Anonymous took over Daily Stormer.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/14/anonymous-hackers-take-over-neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-charlottesville-heather-heyer (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/aug/14/anonymous-hackers-take-over-neo-nazi-website-daily-stormer-charlottesville-heather-heyer)

Actually, they're not claiming that shit. 

(https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799930_10155414707371136_6251250519614378297_n.jpg?oh=edc132ef3c504a0b0ec32b6f4050f4dc&oe=5A24D625)

Godaddy gave them 24 hours to get their shit off the site. 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHKUml2UMAEpSvz.jpg)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 14, 2017, 01:05:23 PM
they using fucking go daddy to make that thing

no wonder they can get hack so easy.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 02:16:30 PM
The onion wouldn't write something that was straight mean spirited.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BXtGpa3h1tN/?hl=en&taken-by=theonion

I wouldn't say thats straight mean spirited since its not aimed at anyone. Even when they use a picture like that its someone on the staff who volunteered.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 04:16:25 PM
Well Trump finally caved to pressure and has condemned the racist groups active in Charlotte.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Not BAMF on August 14, 2017, 04:27:30 PM
Well Trump finally caved to pressure and has condemned the racist groups active in Charlotte.

For truly? What did he say? Was it more of his "EVERYONE is bad" nonsense?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 04:58:21 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-condemns-kkk-neo-nazis-and-white-supremacists-as-criminals-and-thugs-says-racism-is-evil/ar-AAq2K0X?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: kensai on August 14, 2017, 05:07:28 PM
Too little, too fucking late...
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 05:30:38 PM
yeeeeaaaaarrrrp
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 14, 2017, 06:40:22 PM
they using fucking go daddy to make that thing

no wonder they can get hack so easy.

You'd think the master race would be more savvy.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 06:46:01 PM
You would think that the master race would also not look like a bunch of beta male neckbeards who've been pushed too far
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 14, 2017, 06:48:23 PM
I'm beginning to think these Nazi fellas might not be all that great.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 14, 2017, 08:08:06 PM
Too little, too fucking late...

Come it not like those nazi question the size of his hands

or claim trump didn't have the greatest inauguration turn out EVER!!!

those be worth getting mad about
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 14, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
I'm beginning to think these Nazi fellas might not be all that great.

For real, man. The OG Nazis had fucking style, at least. These poseurs are just whiny pussies that can't get their dicks wet
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 08:14:26 PM
They aren't even good Nazis. One of things the OG Nazis had going for them is style. The driver, James Fields, was part of Vanguard America. Do you know what their uniform is? A white polo and khakis. Literally a high school dress code uniform.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 08:14:50 PM
hahah me and Wyntyr on the same mind train right therrrrrr
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 14, 2017, 09:22:34 PM
FACT: Neo is a reincarnated Wyntyr.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 09:36:23 PM
How the fuck did you not know that just reading our posts?

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 14, 2017, 11:42:38 PM
http://www.clickhole.com/blogpost/lowes-would-again-remind-customers-our-tiki-torche-6488?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Red Exodus on August 15, 2017, 12:14:25 AM
Poor Red is so deeply scared by my existence.

If by "scared" you mean "laughing at" your existence, you betcha babe.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 15, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
Poor Red is so deeply scared by my existence.

If by "scared" you mean "laughing at" your existence, you betcha babe.

Doesn't really seem like you're "laughing at" anything when you go to multiple threads to cry and bitch about me.  8)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 15, 2017, 02:20:31 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-shares-then-deletes-twitter-post-of-cnn-cartoon-being-hit-by-train.html

pure class
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Dlbiininja on August 15, 2017, 03:44:46 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-shares-then-deletes-twitter-post-of-cnn-cartoon-being-hit-by-train.html

pure class

Well, if it's a crazy train of course no one can stop it.  Even Repubs are regretting it. And more than a few of them have called it a terrorist attack and denounced it before he did.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 15, 2017, 05:55:28 PM
http://www.theonion.com/article/charlottesville-suspect-might-have-received-tacit--56646
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 15, 2017, 07:42:28 PM
anyone see Trump latest comments on it

The whole argument "Will George Washington Statue be next" 

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346671-trump-on-tearing-down-of-confederate-statues-is-it-george-washington


George Washington is the founder of our country

confederates...are a treasonous army that got their ass kicked.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Snake-eyes on August 15, 2017, 07:53:44 PM
Hope the Nazi/WS gets life in prison.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 15, 2017, 07:57:00 PM
anyone see Trump latest comments on it

The whole argument "Will George Washington Statue be next" 

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346671-trump-on-tearing-down-of-confederate-statues-is-it-george-washington


George Washington is the founder of our country

confederates...are a treasonous army that got their ass kicked.

I have no trouble seeing the more radical groups on the Left calling for something like that. He did own slaves. I doubt it would get much traction in the mainstream. 
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 15, 2017, 08:07:14 PM
Columbus would be targeted first before we get there.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 15, 2017, 08:08:52 PM
Columbus would be targeted first before we get there.

Agreed, though he already has been, at least in NYC.

Dude did some pretty brutal shit.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 15, 2017, 08:14:30 PM
anyone see Trump latest comments on it

The whole argument "Will George Washington Statue be next" 

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/346671-trump-on-tearing-down-of-confederate-statues-is-it-george-washington


George Washington is the founder of our country

confederates...are a treasonous army that got their ass kicked.

I have no trouble seeing the more radical groups on the Left calling for something like that. He did own slaves. I doubt it would get much traction in the mainstream.

They might. They may call for all sorts of things. They can call for George washington statue to be torn down and replace with a statue of a trangenders muslim woman fucking the statue of liberty with a 18 inch strapon.  Getting the government to go with it though, is another issue.

Also would say the people saying pull down the traitor statue, has a slightly better argument

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 15, 2017, 08:16:56 PM
Columbus would be targeted first before we get there.

Agreed, though he already has been, at least in NYC.

Dude did some pretty brutal shit.

yeah it will be funny watching everyone claim history is being rewritten if they start pulling down his monuments when the story we're told about him is highly revised and edited.

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 15, 2017, 08:18:01 PM
Also would say the people saying pull down the traitor statue, has a slightly better argument


I'm not disagreeing.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 15, 2017, 08:22:28 PM
yeah it will be funny watching everyone claim history is being rewritten if they start pulling down his monuments when the story we're told about him is highly revised and edited.

I used to think "Yeah, I'm sure Chris did some messed up stuff, but that was the way the world was back then, product of his times, etc."

Then I read up on him a bit. Guy was Hannibal Lecter. Feeding babies to dogs, tossing them off of cliffs, and so on.

This quote from one of his men stayed with me:

Quote
Bartolome De Las Casas, a former slave owner who became Bishop of Chiapas, described these exploits. “Such inhumanities and barbarisms were committed in my sight as no age can parallel,” he wrote. “My eyes have seen these acts so foreign to human nature that now I tremble as I write.”

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 15, 2017, 08:28:03 PM
Bartolome De Las Casa  sounds like SJW cuck
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 15, 2017, 08:29:52 PM
Bartolome De Las Casa  sounds like SJW cuck

He didn't even fucking lift.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 15, 2017, 09:26:20 PM
I forgot about this one. Teddy's in their sights:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/11/museum-natural-history-theodore-roosevelt-statue-protest (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/11/museum-natural-history-theodore-roosevelt-statue-protest)

Quote
Hundreds of activists gathered at the American Museum of Natural History on Monday to take down the “racist” statue of Theodore Roosevelt and an urgent call to rename Columbus Day.

...

“A stark embodiment of the white supremacy that Roosevelt himself espoused and promoted,” the group explained in a statement. “The statue is seen as an affront to all who pass it on entering the museum, but especially to African and Native Americans.”
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 15, 2017, 09:40:09 PM
I will fucking murder the fuck out of anyone trying to defame Teddy Roosevelt
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 15, 2017, 09:44:17 PM
I'm completely lost... I mean I get Columbus is a legit piece of shit but why do they hate Teddy?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 15, 2017, 10:03:15 PM
I'm completely lost... I mean I get Columbus is a legit piece of shit but why do they hate Teddy?

White man with power.  Automatically evil.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 15, 2017, 10:22:00 PM
Welp Trump walked back on his condemnation of the guys chilling with the swastikas saying they're some good ones on that side and defending the tiki torch late night protest. This is so crazy The Onion dropped the satire and just did this.

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/trump-blasts-critics-who-judge-neo-nazi-groups-mos-56662?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Bran Mak Morn on August 15, 2017, 10:41:51 PM
You guys jus need to chill down with some Freedom Fries.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 15, 2017, 11:22:17 PM
Welp Trump walked back on his condemnation of the guys chilling with the swastikas saying they're some good ones on that side and defending the tiki torch late night protest. This is so crazy The Onion dropped the satire and just did this.

http://www.theonion.com/graphic/trump-blasts-critics-who-judge-neo-nazi-groups-mos-56662?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing

it hard to parody something that already a parody
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Von Doom on August 15, 2017, 11:40:00 PM
I'm completely lost... I mean I get Columbus is a legit piece of shit but why do they hate Teddy?

He was for the subjugation of tribal people. He didn't like it at all, actually found it barbaric, but his view was that a better life was given to them once they were conquered. It's a sticky POV morally, to be sure. It's NOTHING compared to Columbus.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Uhtceare on August 16, 2017, 12:20:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXotNAbfYUA
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on August 16, 2017, 02:37:08 AM
So from what I get Republicans are now saying they support the policies but not his morality?

Um, anyone ever see that episode of Darkwing Duck where Gosalyn goes into the future and there's a Darkwing Duck who has the same policies (y'know, no crime) but no morality and become and turns St. Canard into a police state?

Isn't that kind of what supporting Trump now is?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Master on August 16, 2017, 06:53:42 AM
Gonna make a separate topic regarding monument removal.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 04:49:07 PM
Gonna make a separate topic regarding Darkwing Duck vs Gizmoduck.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 16, 2017, 06:02:24 PM
https://streamable.com/21gc9 (https://streamable.com/21gc9)

So some guy hit the back of the dude's car with something and then he sped forward.  What do you fine folks make of that?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 16, 2017, 06:04:35 PM
I think it looks like he is swinging a towel. Scary.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 16, 2017, 06:10:11 PM
https://streamable.com/21gc9 (https://streamable.com/21gc9)

So some guy hit the back of the dude's car with something and then he sped forward.  What do you fine folks make of that?

That if I felt a thump on the back of my car my reaction would be to stop not speed into the people in front of me.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 16, 2017, 06:21:08 PM
https://streamable.com/21gc9 (https://streamable.com/21gc9)

So some guy hit the back of the dude's car with something and then he sped forward.  What do you fine folks make of that?

That if I felt a thump on the back of my car my reaction would be to stop not speed into the people in front of me.

Yeah. This is not like that case from a few years ago, where a guy and his family were surrounded by a biker gang while driving, and when they started to try and break in he drove over them to escape. That guy wasn't charged, and I think a few of the bikers were, including one who had his pelvis crushed.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 16, 2017, 06:51:34 PM
https://streamable.com/21gc9 (https://streamable.com/21gc9)

So some guy hit the back of the dude's car with something and then he sped forward.  What do you fine folks make of that?

That if I felt a thump on the back of my car my reaction would be to stop not speed into the people in front of me.

Unless he saw the guy in his rear view and wanted to avoid more people joining in.  I'm playing devil's advocate mostly.  We haven't heard much from the guy.  Do we know he was involved in the rally?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 07:01:17 PM
If I felt somebody "thump" my car, I'd get out and "thump" their fucking head. But different people have vastly different reactions to external stimulus.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 16, 2017, 07:08:26 PM
If I felt somebody "thump" my car, I'd get out and "thump" their fucking head. But different people have vastly different reactions to external stimulus.

Right.

I saw one video where the guy got out after some antifas hit his car and then one of them ran up and slashed his tires.  It's hard to know what to do in that situation.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 16, 2017, 07:18:54 PM
https://streamable.com/21gc9 (https://streamable.com/21gc9)

So some guy hit the back of the dude's car with something and then he sped forward.  What do you fine folks make of that?

That if I felt a thump on the back of my car my reaction would be to stop not speed into the people in front of me.


Unless he saw the guy in his rear view and wanted to avoid more people joining in.  I'm playing devil's advocate mostly.  We haven't heard much from the guy.  Do we know he was involved in the rally?
(http://referentiel.nouvelobs.com/file/16195194-qui-est-james-alex-fields-jr-le-tueur-presume-de-charlottesville.jpg)

Yep. He was their with White Supremacist group Vanguard America. Here they stand in their groups uniform, white polo and khakis.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 07:40:00 PM
The real Nazis had Hugo Boss. These faggots have KMart
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 16, 2017, 08:03:10 PM
If I felt somebody "thump" my car, I'd get out and "thump" their fucking head. But different people have vastly different reactions to external stimulus.

Right.

I saw one video where the guy got out after some antifas hit his car and then one of them ran up and slashed his tires.  It's hard to know what to do in that situation.

How about not be IN the situation by not being a fucking Nazi/Supremecist?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 08:20:00 PM
How about coming to a conclusion based on logic instead of feelings?

Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 08:23:06 PM
I mean, straight up, fuck this guy. But for all anyone knew as it was happening he was just some dude in a car. If you start fucking with someone operating a 2 ton weapon, a little bit of the blame is on your dipshit shoulders as well
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 16, 2017, 08:23:38 PM
How about coming to a conclusion based on logic instead of feelings?


well historically being a nazi hasn't really worked out for anyone in the long run so if he took it to the logical conclusion he wouldn't be a Nazi.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 08:24:43 PM
How about coming to a conclusion based on logic instead of feelings?


well historically being a nazi hasn't really worked out for anyone in the long run so if he took it to the logical conclusion he wouldn't be a Nazi.

I wasn't referring to the Nazi piece of shit
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 16, 2017, 08:29:08 PM
Probably because I'm not a Vulcan?

Nazi's are pieces of shit, period. I have no intentions of trying to empathize with one or come up with excuses for him.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 16, 2017, 08:33:38 PM
I mean, straight up, fuck this guy. But for all anyone knew as it was happening he was just some dude in a car. If you start fucking with someone operating a 2 ton weapon, a little bit of the blame is on your dipshit shoulders as well

At the very least its manslaughter. Even if he thought he was in danger the danger was coming from behind and the people in front had nothing to do with it. IF I'm standing somewhere with a gun and someone hits me in the bag I don't get free reign to shoot everyone in front of me.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 08:58:59 PM
Probably because I'm not a Vulcan?

Nazi's are pieces of shit, period. I have no intentions of trying to empathize with one or come up with excuses for him.

You realize that empathizing or coming up with excuses for him is the exact opposite of logic, right? You're better than this, man.

I mean, straight up, fuck this guy. But for all anyone knew as it was happening he was just some dude in a car. If you start fucking with someone operating a 2 ton weapon, a little bit of the blame is on your dipshit shoulders as well

At the very least its manslaughter. Even if he thought he was in danger the danger was coming from behind and the people in front had nothing to do with it. IF I'm standing somewhere with a gun and someone hits me in the bag I don't get free reign to shoot everyone in front of me.

I never said he didn't deserve to face the full extent of the law. He absolutely does
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 09:01:14 PM
I'm playing devil's advocate mostly.

I'm pretty sure most people here don't understand the concept
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 16, 2017, 09:32:11 PM
If I felt somebody "thump" my car, I'd get out and "thump" their fucking head. But different people have vastly different reactions to external stimulus.

and both would get you in trouble with the law.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 16, 2017, 09:40:13 PM
I mean, straight up, fuck this guy. But for all anyone knew as it was happening he was just some dude in a car. If you start fucking with someone operating a 2 ton weapon, a little bit of the blame is on your dipshit shoulders as well

At the very least its manslaughter. Even if he thought he was in danger the danger was coming from behind and the people in front had nothing to do with it. IF I'm standing somewhere with a gun and someone hits me in the bag I don't get free reign to shoot everyone in front of me.

If I am in a car and someone is hitting the back of my vehicle, I would move the car forward to get away.

The guy might still be charged with manslaughter.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 16, 2017, 09:42:55 PM
Would you move it forward into a bunch of people who didn't hit the back of your car?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
If I felt somebody "thump" my car, I'd get out and "thump" their fucking head. But different people have vastly different reactions to external stimulus.

and both would get you in trouble with the law.

So would being an illiterate halftard selling virgin hair wigs out of the back of a van. What's your point?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 16, 2017, 10:33:40 PM
If I felt somebody "thump" my car, I'd get out and "thump" their fucking head. But different people have vastly different reactions to external stimulus.

and both would get you in trouble with the law.

So would being an illiterate halftard selling virgin hair wigs out of the back of a van. What's your point?



Despite that wonderfully edgey word salad you just made...my point is pretty clear

What ever stimilus your talking about..would still get you in trouble. The whole idea "well people react to different stimlus" is not an excuse for anything. Its a non sequitur.

If someone two people get the shoe step on

one might let it slide
one might stab the dude with a broken beer bottle

Yea they both reacting to different stimilus ...but one of them is clearly a lunatic.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 10:41:56 PM
But wot wud hiwwawee do, tho?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 16, 2017, 11:20:11 PM
Would you move it forward into a bunch of people who didn't hit the back of your car?

If I wasn't panicking, no.  If I was panicking, maybe?  The dude seemed spooked.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 16, 2017, 11:25:00 PM
The dude seemed spooked.

No pun intended
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 16, 2017, 11:36:03 PM
The dude seemed spooked.

No pun intended

LOL but yeah, the dude probably got rattled from all the non-whites around.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Red Exodus on August 17, 2017, 01:32:28 AM
Doesn't really seem like you're "laughing at" anything when you go to multiple threads to cry and bitch about me.  8)

I dunno, you're incredibly sensitive whenever people call you racist, and you seem to bitch and
cry the loudest out of everyone.

I mean your RiV level meltdown over getting banned over arguing with Jelly? Yeah, you're not
exactly in a position to say anyone "cries" or "bitches" when you vastly exceed mine. :D
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 17, 2017, 02:01:18 AM
Doesn't really seem like you're "laughing at" anything when you go to multiple threads to cry and bitch about me.  8)

I dunno, you're incredibly sensitive whenever people call you racist, and you seem to bitch and
cry the loudest out of everyone.

I mean your RiV level meltdown over getting banned over arguing with Jelly? Yeah, you're not
exactly in a position to say anyone "cries" or "bitches" when you vastly exceed mine. :D

Ah the bitch made nigger boy is still mad!  Oh shit I said it again, time to cry!
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 17, 2017, 10:08:21 AM
Would you move it forward into a bunch of people who didn't hit the back of your car?

If I wasn't panicking, no.  If I was panicking, maybe?  The dude seemed spooked.

I was rear ended hard in some highway traffic once and my panic instincts made me run into the metal rail instead of the car in front of me. And this was because my breaks weren't stopping me. So yeah people do stupid things when panicking but since my instincts say don't hurt anyone else fuck that guy.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Bran Mak Morn on August 17, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
#metalrailsmatter
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 17, 2017, 10:25:44 AM
But wot wud hiwwawee do, tho?

ok cute your trying to start a meme but has nothing to do with a conversation at hand and you clearly have no point.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 10:28:37 AM
I already made my point, and it was both more well thought out and delivered than yours. Just because you didn't grasp it because it was based on logic instead of bitchmade feelings doesn't change that fact
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 17, 2017, 10:32:45 AM
I already made my point, and it was both more well thought out and delivered than yours. Just because you didn't grasp it because it was based on logic instead of bitchmade feelings doesn't change that fact

sure you put on your shade and drank a moutain dew while typing that. But sadly still some nonsense.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 11:06:11 AM
Ok

Concession accepted. Sorry, kid. Nothing personal  8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 17, 2017, 11:34:53 AM
The dude drove his car into a crowd of people.

He specifically drove his car down this alley to be antagonistic. He could have gone a different way, but this was always a possibility he was considering. He almost definitely bragged to his white trash friends if one of them touched his car he'd run them over. I saw one idiot saying he'd get out and just start attacking people if they touched his car. Named himself after some fuckface website.

Someone taps this white trash car with a hoodie and he decides to kill someone with his car. There's no defense for this level of stupidity and the hilariously shitty attempts at playing devil's advocate by Wyntyr and AP aren't helping this cunt's case.

If somebody hits your car with a sweatshirt as you drive toward a crowd of people and your instinct is to floor it, you suck at driving and are also an objectively stupid person.

Here's how to avoid killing people with your car:

Don't drive a car down an alley toward a protest. This wasn't rush hour on the freeway. He CHOSE to be there.
Don't be a racist shithead. He CHOSE to be there for photo-ops and marching about how great he thinks being white trash is.
Don't freak out and floor it when you're the one antagonizing people. He CHOSE to put himself in that situation. This is the SAME FUCKING GROUP that parrots the "personal responsibility" shit when black kids get shot by scared cops.

Fuck this shithead and your clumsy attempts to rationalize his behavior as "devil's advocates".
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:04:47 PM
I'm going to snap you with a wet towel on your booty when you least expect it. Then we'll see who the real racist psychopath is, you weaboo cuck
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 17, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
Promises, promises.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:14:18 PM
And my entire original  point was that people react to external stimuli in varied ways, not defending this stupid cracker dickhead. I hope he dies in prison, a conclusion I came to based on logical reaction as a consequence of his actions, not my feelings on him being an inbred cracker piece of shit
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:16:03 PM
Give me a medal
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 17, 2017, 12:16:49 PM
Your point was and remains poorly supported and defined.

You're insisting it was built upon logic and reasoning, but it seems divorced from those principles and more contrarian than anything. Is this really an OK way to behave?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 17, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
In other words, every "devil" doesn't need an advocate.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:26:26 PM
Is slamming a car into people an "okay" way to behave? No.

Is the result of an action "okay" legally or morally? Depends on intent, context, external stimuli, and other factors.

If this jackass drove his vehicle down that street with the intent to cause harm to people, no that is not "okay". If the person behind the car didn't take into consideration that his actions might have unintended consequences, no that is not "okay". And before rock or some other ignoramus who only debates Strawman chimes in, no i am not assigning equal blame to those actions.

Nothing about any of this is fucking "okay".
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:27:21 PM
In other words, every "devil" doesn't need an advocate.

In obvious words, a devil can be an appeal to logic, and not a person
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 17, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
Is slamming a car into people an "okay" way to behave? No.

Is the result of an action "okay" legally or morally? Depends on intent, context, external stimuli, and other factors.

If this jackass drove his vehicle down that street with the intent to cause harm to people, no that is not "okay". If the person behind the car didn't take into consideration that his actions might have unintended consequences, no that is not "okay". And before rock or some other ignoramus who only debates Strawman chimes in, no i am not assigning equal blame to those actions.

Nothing about any of this is fucking "okay".

Your point is dumb enough where it no need to strawman it.

I think he did take consideration in he wanted to run some people over. I don't see what UNINTENDED about it.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 17, 2017, 12:36:32 PM
Is slamming a car into people an "okay" way to behave? No.

Is the result of an action "okay" legally or morally? Depends on intent, context, external stimuli, and other factors.

If this jackass drove his vehicle down that street with the intent to cause harm to people, no that is not "okay". If the person behind the car didn't take into consideration that his actions might have unintended consequences, no that is not "okay". And before rock or some other ignoramus who only debates Strawman chimes in, no i am not assigning equal blame to those actions.

Nothing about any of this is fucking "okay".

I said "OK" not "okay." Return to the one-room schoolhouse and accept your punishment.

This guy definitely drove his car down that alley at the absolute minimum with the intent to intimidate the crowd. He knew what they were all there for. Himbo or whatever his name is was on the other side of the crowd earlier doing photo ops with fellow white trash. He was more aware of the current situation than anybody viewing the videos online because he had gone out of his way to make everything worse even before he got into his car.

There were no unintended consequences to him driving that car down the alley. He almost definitely bragged about that potential outcome to his fellow trash and then delivered on it when he got scared because hoodies always beat American muscle cars.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
Is slamming a car into people an "okay" way to behave? No.

Is the result of an action "okay" legally or morally? Depends on intent, context, external stimuli, and other factors.

If this jackass drove his vehicle down that street with the intent to cause harm to people, no that is not "okay". If the person behind the car didn't take into consideration that his actions might have unintended consequences, no that is not "okay". And before rock or some other ignoramus who only debates Strawman chimes in, no i am not assigning equal blame to those actions.

Nothing about any of this is fucking "okay".

Your point is dumb enough where it no need to strawman it.

I think he did take consideration in he wanted to run some people over. I don't see what UNINTENDED about it.

You "think". Boom. Right there. Your feelings on a situation or the people involved in a situation do not somehow overrule objective, provable facts. That was my point, and I rest my case there.

What we can prove:

1. Some dude drove his car *on a road intended for driving*
2. His vehicle was surrounded by people, some of whom were physically and verbally attempting to interfere with a driver driving on a road
3. The vehicle sped forward into a group of people blocking a road intended for driving

What we assume:
1. The driver is a Nazi cracker dipshit
2. He drove down that street with the intention of either terrorizing or harming people who are against his retarded agenda

I know you have problems reading, but you can understand the difference between the words "assume" and "prove", and the concepts they represent, right?

My feelings about this guy are that he's an ignorant, hateful piece of shit who deserves prison at the very least. I'm not defending him or the actions involved any more or less than the American justice system does.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:52:58 PM
I feel a lot of things. None of them can be proven with the available facts

Oh, okay.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 12:53:15 PM
Whoops, I mean OK
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 17, 2017, 01:05:16 PM
Is slamming a car into people an "okay" way to behave? No.

Is the result of an action "okay" legally or morally? Depends on intent, context, external stimuli, and other factors.

If this jackass drove his vehicle down that street with the intent to cause harm to people, no that is not "okay". If the person behind the car didn't take into consideration that his actions might have unintended consequences, no that is not "okay". And before rock or some other ignoramus who only debates Strawman chimes in, no i am not assigning equal blame to those actions.

Nothing about any of this is fucking "okay".

Your point is dumb enough where it no need to strawman it.

I think he did take consideration in he wanted to run some people over. I don't see what UNINTENDED about it.

You "think". Boom. Right there. Your feelings on a situation or the people involved in a situation do not somehow overrule objective, provable facts. That was my point, and I rest my case there.

What we can prove:

1. Some dude drove his car *on a road intended for driving*
2. His vehicle was surrounded by people, some of whom were physically and verbally attempting to interfere with a driver driving on a road
3. The vehicle sped forward into a group of people blocking a road intended for driving

What we assume:
1. The driver is a Nazi cracker dipshit
2. He drove down that street with the intention of either terrorizing or harming people who are against his retarded agenda

I know you have problems reading, but you can understand the difference between the words "assume" and "prove", and the concepts they represent, right?

My feelings about this guy are that he's an ignorant, hateful piece of shit who deserves prison at the very least. I'm not defending him or the actions involved any more or less than the American justice system does.


Well unless he is blind...he saw the people

There were other paths to get out

He then drove into said people. I don't see what else he intended to happens.

If the people were blocking traffic were being annoying is inconsequential
What you and I think about said people blocking the road is inconsequential

He saw them and ran their ass over.  You can't run people over just for being annoying. Your argument is dumb. You probably know it at this point but don't want to drop the act.

Even if he wasn't a racist fucked, even if the people were assholes it would still be no defense.  If it was mother Theresa  , and someone hit her car with something it bad. Even if it was people screaming

"fuck you mother theresa you dumb cunt"

if mother theresa then ran them over she still be charge. It would still be intentional

If I was driving and you block my traffic screaming "Fuck you rock learn to spell you hillary loving Fuck"

If I then ran you over the intention would clear.  Your point on all accounts is dumb. I would still go to Jail.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 01:27:09 PM
I got to the point where you seemingly believe that my argument is that annoying people should be ran over and I'm gonna go ahead and decline expending the effort of translating any more of your retardbabble.

Does that mean you win? If so, congratulations.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 17, 2017, 01:43:12 PM
My question why do we even need to play devil's advocate? He's the devil. he should have plenty of lawyers at his disposal.... What are we talking about?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 02:07:50 PM
Unrelated but semi-related question: do you believe those lawyers will share his retarded viewpoints or do you think they will be operating from a position of logical objectivity?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: 80sBaby on August 17, 2017, 02:11:22 PM
They'll probably be more objective because that's their job and they get paid for it. You're doing it for free for some unknown reason.

It's like Trump. All you need to do is leave it at "Fuck the Nazi" yet you feel compelled to speak further. Never go Full Trump, man.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 02:15:02 PM
Or... and here's the kicker... maybe they just believe in approaching situations from a position of logical objectivity and only basing their claims off what can be proven and not their personal feelings about those involved?

And if they can do that without it being implied that they sympathize with the white trash scum involved, why can't I?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 02:20:10 PM
Your position: I hate this Nazi fuck because he is a Nazi fuck and intentionally rammed his car into people

My position: I hate this Nazi fuck because he is a Nazi fuck and his actions resulted in people getting hurt regardless of his intent, which cannot be proven with the information at hand.

You can come to the same conclusion via different paths, but they don't teach that at Righteous Indignation Community College
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 17, 2017, 02:30:06 PM
I got to the point where you seemingly believe that my argument is that annoying people should be ran over and I'm gonna go ahead and decline expending the effort of translating any more of your retardbabble.

Does that mean you win? If so, congratulations.

ok you whiny ass concession accepted

assume your point was some random shit about stimula and saying running over people being bad is base on pure sjw emotion and that only



so yes guess we hit a wall here
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 17, 2017, 02:36:14 PM
If by "hit a wall" you mean that I'm unable to hold a conversation with someone who can't understand incredibly simple concepts, then yeah, guy. We've hit a big fucking wall
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Red Exodus on August 17, 2017, 03:21:40 PM
Ah the bitch made nigger boy is still mad!  Oh shit I said it again, time to cry!

Oh shit I broke Liquid again. This guy's gonna need a little energon, and a lot of luck.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 17, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
Would you move it forward into a bunch of people who didn't hit the back of your car?

If I wasn't panicking, no.  If I was panicking, maybe?  The dude seemed spooked.

I was rear ended hard in some highway traffic once and my panic instincts made me run into the metal rail instead of the car in front of me. And this was because my breaks weren't stopping me. So yeah people do stupid things when panicking but since my instincts say don't hurt anyone else fuck that guy.

That is not the same situation.

Also, you are likely smarter than that guy while in panic-mode so there's that.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 17, 2017, 11:50:49 PM
No it's not the same. I had less control of the situation.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 18, 2017, 01:19:52 AM
I think we can all agree that the problem isn't Nazis, it's Libertarians. Bet you that 99.89% of that alt-right crowd was Libertarian scum.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 18, 2017, 01:27:26 AM
No it's not the same. I had less control of the situation.

And you know, living people werent in the way.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 18, 2017, 01:30:04 AM
No it's not the same. I had less control of the situation.

And people weren't gathered in front of your car to begin with.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 18, 2017, 10:40:21 AM
I think we can all agree that the problem isn't Nazis, it's Libertarians. Bet you that 99.89% of that alt-right crowd was Libertarian scum.

Nah. I know some libertarian and while I don't agree with them they are pretty reasonable people. Just like most of the reps and Dems I know. And the vast majority of the people at this rally we're brought there by David Duke and Richard Spencer and were sporting swastikas and shit. If you stayed then you went from Libertarian to Nazi sympathizer.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 18, 2017, 12:39:30 PM
Precisely what I'd expect some Libertarian apologist to say.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 18, 2017, 01:53:38 PM
DIGUSTING
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 18, 2017, 01:57:58 PM
Precisely what I'd expect some Libertarian apologist to say.

I'm just an Issue9mm apologist.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 18, 2017, 06:08:05 PM
http://www.theonion.com/article/nation-begs-disaffected-youth-gravitating-toward-n-56696?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing

haha The Onion as always on point.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Gree on August 18, 2017, 10:18:08 PM
I think we can all agree that the problem isn't Nazis, it's Libertarians. Bet you that 99.89% of that alt-right crowd was Libertarian scum.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 19, 2017, 02:26:42 PM
If Wyntyr can eventually actually make a concrete point instead of getting a train run on him by therock, I'd love to see it.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 19, 2017, 05:08:19 PM
You need to open your eyes, skinhead
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 19, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
I read every single apologetic post you made, trying to rationalize the actions of a nazi at a nazi rally. This is why you have weight problems.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 19, 2017, 05:30:15 PM
Your hate will not win here. Concession accepted
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 19, 2017, 10:19:38 PM
I love Hispanics!
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Red Exodus on August 21, 2017, 04:16:58 AM
I love Hispanics!

I don't see you eating any hispanic dishes to prove otherwise you racist scum.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 21, 2017, 09:20:46 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/amp/)

I want to revise my previous comment. Encouraging violence against people whose opinions you disagree with can't possibly have unintended consequences or lead to an escalation of violence that sweeps up random innocent people.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 21, 2017, 09:32:09 AM
False flag. He was probably stabbed for looking like a hipster douche.

Jk don't stab people. According to Cap you just punch Nazis. Superman wants you to slap japs.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 21, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
I love Hispanics!

As well you should. They are truly God's chosen people
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 21, 2017, 04:01:11 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/amp/)

I want to revise my previous comment. Encouraging violence against people whose opinions you disagree with can't possibly have unintended consequences or lead to an escalation of violence that sweeps up random innocent people.

I condemn the violence on both sides of this horrible hair attack
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 21, 2017, 04:03:11 PM
those sides being that dude and the barber who cut his hair right?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: herochat on August 21, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
Don't make the obvious joke more obvious
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 21, 2017, 11:37:23 PM
ROFL ROFL DAT BARBER DOE ROFL DAVID L BENNETT
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Master on August 22, 2017, 12:32:42 PM
Barber: What you want, fam?

Guy: Well, I always liked FOX News headline-

Barber: Say no more.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: AP on August 25, 2017, 02:45:53 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/1uhb8a.jpg)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on August 26, 2017, 03:03:45 AM
Huh, looks like Richard Spencer planned the rally at Trump hotel.

How nice.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 26, 2017, 02:03:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb_edXP49ko

wntry wrote a new Bill

They do know this bill can be used on people other then left wingers right.  Sure they may not get killed becuase they getting hit by a Prius with no horsepower..but it will still hurt.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 26, 2017, 02:21:56 PM
Bills like this are reactionary and stupid. They encourage violent behavior and escalation of a bad situation.

That being said, it wouldn't be an issue if police and government would do their jobs objectively. A group of people blocking traffic, be it motorized or pedestrian, is no longer an assemblage of protestors, it's a mob and should be treated as such. Clear the road and arrest those who don't comply, and leave the public spaces to those who wish to protest peacefully and those who wish to go about their day peacefully.

And like that guy I mentioned who got surrounded by the biker gang in NYC, if a mob is trying to break into a driver's car to harm them, the driver should be perfectly entitled to drive through the mob to get to safety.

 
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: therock on August 26, 2017, 03:03:36 PM
not to mention there laws on the book that apply to shit like that

so no need for the law. it just make it clear there picking clear sides. otherwise why make it protester specific. cant make people living there feel great
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 27, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
Gonna go full Letters for a moment.

https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/the-charlottesville-rally-was-apparently-planned-at-trump-international-hotel/

TLDR: Richard Spencer planned the Charlotte Rally at Trump International Hotel in DC.
On the conspiracy tip His wife, Nina Kouprianova, has ties to Aleksandr Dugin who is a fascist political analyst nicknamed Putin's Brain. Dugin and Spencer have tried to hold white nationalist rallies together in the past such as in Hungry but that got shutdown by the Hungarian government. Stephen Miller, White House senior policy advisor, has been friends with Spencer for a long time and is probably his direct in with the white house.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: XerxesTWD on August 27, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
Anybody wonder why Stephen Miller looks to be about 45 years old but he's actually early 30's?
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 27, 2017, 10:29:48 AM
I was really fucking shocked to learn he was a few years younger than me. Master race my ass.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: Strawman Abridged on August 27, 2017, 01:45:20 PM
Large concentration of whiteness in dat boi.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 28, 2017, 04:39:23 PM
http://gizmodo.com/man-who-was-allegedly-stabbed-for-his-neo-nazi-haircut-1798502154

Oh shit the stabbing was a false flag.
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 28, 2017, 04:53:55 PM
http://www.theonion.com/article/antifa-organizers-announce-plans-disrupt-neo-nazi--56783?utm_content=Main&utm_campaign=SF&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: MTL76 on August 28, 2017, 05:15:04 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/nypost.com/2017/08/19/man-stabbed-after-haircut-gets-him-mistaken-for-a-neo-nazi/amp/)

I want to revise my previous comment. Encouraging violence against people whose opinions you disagree with can't possibly have unintended consequences or lead to an escalation of violence that sweeps up random innocent people.

http://gizmodo.com/man-who-was-allegedly-stabbed-for-his-neo-nazi-haircut-1798502154

Oh shit the stabbing was a false flag.

Whelp, I feel silly. Stabbing oneself is quite dedicated for an amateur false flag.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/zNXvBiNNcrjDW/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Who would have guessed a white nationalist protest would turn violent
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on August 28, 2017, 05:52:37 PM
Its possible he accidentally cut himself then ran with it. There was a story about a right wing talking head not too long ago who said she had her tires slashed but it was pretty obvious that she just had shitty tires and they popped.

http://www.boredpanda.com/fake-slashed-tire-tweet-laura-loomer/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=BPFacebook

Obviously an accident caused by negligence on her part but she still saw it as an opportunity to cry wolf.