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Title: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on August 01, 2017, 03:52:32 AM
I mean, the guy started out as a reality TV star, got signed on the suck Smackdown tough enough as a runner up, the locker room treated him like hell, to the point he couldn't dress with the boys.

And over time he formed a great team with John Morrison, became one of the best mic workers, won several championships, main evented a WM, and has stared in a few of the WWE's movies.

Anyone else start out so far at the bottom to get to the top?
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: kensai on August 06, 2017, 02:44:11 AM
And yet, I can't get myself to like him in any way...
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: herochat on August 06, 2017, 03:35:54 AM
Miz is amazing. And despite anyone's (Jab) idiot stupid fucking dipshit personal opinion if him, DDP is objectively a huge overachiever
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 06, 2017, 04:37:18 AM
How does one overachieve when one reaches what they strive for??
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 06, 2017, 06:49:11 AM
How does one overachieve when one reaches what they strive for??

Because thats not what overachievement means. ::)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overachiever

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one who achieves success over and above the standard or expected level...

By definition Miz is an overachiever.
You are giving me some fun shit to reply to this morning. ;D





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Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 06, 2017, 08:09:52 AM
Hm

I misunderstood the word
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 06, 2017, 08:29:56 AM
No sweat...-thumbs up-





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Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Rynox on August 06, 2017, 12:45:22 PM
Miz is amazing. And despite anyone's (Jab) idiot stupid fucking dipshit personal opinion if him, DDP is objectively a huge overachiever

And that's a good thing!
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: LiquidSailor on August 06, 2017, 02:12:35 PM
Miz is great on the mic and a great heel.

He has personality, which often times the stars they push lack.
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Thorne on August 06, 2017, 04:15:55 PM
maryse is perfect for him
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Jabroniville on August 08, 2017, 03:16:51 AM
In WWE? Yeah, probably The Miz- he's above-average in everything but Look, but above-average don't mean you deserve runs at the top. DDP in Vince's territory was jobbed out to Undertaker's wife, and given a bush-league Motivational Speaker gimmick- a pretty half-assed career. And that's not a bad thing... that's a GOOD THING!

Though overall, DDP is probably the answer. In that most guys who sucked and got pushed eventually bottomed-out or failed quickly- your Road Warrior knock-offs or what have you. DDP managed... with HIS level of talent... to become one of WCW's top guys. And all it took was being one of the most protected wrestlers of his era, but the first guy to MAJORLY embarrass and get one over on the nWo (did he even suffer for turning on Hall & Nash), get one of the biggest "One-Hit Kill" finishers since the DDT's day, and tons of matches against great workers, so suddenly he became a "Great Match" guy.

If he wasn't Bischoff's buddy, he wouldn't have had HALF the career- I'd imagine him topping out as a TV Title-level guy. Probably getting a US Title feud or something, since he DID connect with white trash audiences, and did work his ass off in the ring.

Talent-wise, you might say the Ultimate Warrior is close... but he obviously connected with people and drew reactions, which is basically the name of the game. So he doesn't count.
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: HalloweenJack on August 11, 2017, 08:00:08 PM
and that Goldberg match
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Mightily Oats on August 11, 2017, 10:22:33 PM
Nash and Bischoff maintain that Eric originally held DDP back, until he started to notice the way the fans were going
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 11, 2017, 11:36:38 PM
Nash and Bischoff maintain that Eric originally held DDP back, until he started to notice the way the fans were going
That puts him ahead of WWE right there.





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Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: HalloweenJack on August 12, 2017, 05:05:45 PM
ya know....I guess I'm the yin to Jab's yang here. I'll never understood the hatred he has for DDP nor will he understand my love for the guy

It's like is the glass half empty or half full.


Neither of us can believe how DDP managed to snag Kimberly, but whereas I admire the man for it Jab goes psychotically nustso over "Fuck THAT guy!"
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Jabroniville on August 12, 2017, 05:31:36 PM
Nash and Bischoff maintain that Eric originally held DDP back, until he started to notice the way the fans were going
Well if two total truth-tellers like those two say it, it MUST be true.

At some point, he was ripping on the entire nWo and whupping ass every week, so obviously they saw "how the fans were going" by that point :).

Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 12, 2017, 06:18:22 PM
ya know....I guess I'm the yin to Jab's yang here. I'll never understood the hatred he has for DDP nor will he understand my love for the guy

It's like is the glass half empty or half full.


Neither of us can believe how DDP managed to snag Kimberly, but whereas I admire the man for it Jab goes psychotically nustso over "Fuck THAT guy!"
Other than his horrible WWE stint i've always liked DDP. He was gutsy and charismatic, more than he had any right to be really.
And really, if he'd done nothing else BUT get Kimberly, he would still be HoF worthy.





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Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Jabroniville on August 13, 2017, 10:31:55 AM
ya know....I guess I'm the yin to Jab's yang here. I'll never understood the hatred he has for DDP nor will he understand my love for the guy

It's like is the glass half empty or half full.


Neither of us can believe how DDP managed to snag Kimberly, but whereas I admire the man for it Jab goes psychotically nustso over "Fuck THAT guy!"
The years have calmed me somewhat on him- the sheer hatred is something more akin to what "2005 Jab" felt. A 35-year old me doesn't see what the big deal was, and points out that WCW had way more problems than just his being over-pushed. Hey, he was over. Even if he had terrible tattoos and a stupid face that made me want to punch him SO HARD.
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on August 14, 2017, 08:19:40 PM
...

Hey, Jab, do you like Broken Matt Hardy? I want to see how far opposite you and HJ are. :)
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Jabroniville on August 15, 2017, 05:15:46 AM
...

Hey, Jab, do you like Broken Matt Hardy? I want to see how far opposite you and HJ are. :)
I saw only one video of it, and thought it was pretty dumb. But then, I went to Art School. You kind of get tired of "artfully weird", especially when it's someone who's not artsy TRYING to be "artfully weird">
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 15, 2017, 05:53:05 AM
...

Hey, Jab, do you like Broken Matt Hardy? I want to see how far opposite you and HJ are. :)
I saw only one video of it, and thought it was pretty dumb. But then, I went to Art School. You kind of get tired of "artfully weird", especially when it's someone who's not artsy TRYING to be "artfully weird">
I saw some random TNA segment with him having dinner yelling delete for some odd reason while channel surfing once.
Meh?





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Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: The Captain on August 15, 2017, 08:09:07 AM
I would have thought Daniel Bryan to be the biggest overachiever.
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: herochat on August 15, 2017, 03:11:03 PM
No
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 15, 2017, 03:47:42 PM
No
NO!
NO!





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Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on August 17, 2017, 02:55:09 AM
...

Hey, Jab, do you like Broken Matt Hardy? I want to see how far opposite you and HJ are. :)
I saw only one video of it, and thought it was pretty dumb. But then, I went to Art School. You kind of get tired of "artfully weird", especially when it's someone who's not artsy TRYING to be "artfully weird">
I saw some random TNA segment with him having dinner yelling delete for some odd reason while channel surfing once.
Meh?





I broke Scourge. Poor Scourge.

Just go on youtube and search for Total Nonstop Deletion or Decay or Delete.

I miss the Broken Universe. :(
Title: Re: Is Miz the biggest overachiever in WWE history?
Post by: Riv1 on August 17, 2017, 06:11:40 AM
Yeah...no. :P





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