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Title: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Philosophia on April 08, 2017, 03:11:47 PM
https://np.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/646omm/new_marvel_comic_xmen_gold_contain_subliminal/

The house of oppressive ideas.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 08, 2017, 03:17:36 PM
I was just reading about that. There is a bit of irony the guy snuck that in there on the same page as Kitty Pryde. I hope the guy thinks that was worth trashing his career over.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 08, 2017, 03:19:39 PM
https://np.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/646omm/new_marvel_comic_xmen_gold_contain_subliminal/

The house of oppressive ideas.
Really not so much.  Considering, it was the act of one guy and not like a Bendis directive to all staff.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Upper_Krust on April 08, 2017, 03:28:41 PM
It will be VERY interesting to hear Marvel's response on this, because this could cause a shitstorm.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 08, 2017, 04:16:02 PM
Very irrational but as long as people worship books with passages like those in it, there will be people who will take it to heart. Like Upper_Krust, I look forward to their response.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: MTL76 on April 08, 2017, 05:10:17 PM
My take is...
...Dont push your personal political/religious agenda like this; its petty.

If this guy is THAT set on getting 'a message' out, he can shop around a pro muslim character/comic, or self publish. You know, put him self out there, instead of...hijacking someone else's product.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Drevil_million_dollars.jpg)
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Toilet Bunny on April 08, 2017, 08:18:23 PM
Weird that a Russian atheist would be rocking a shirt with a Quaran verse on it.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: g-train on April 08, 2017, 08:57:11 PM
My take is...
...Dont push your personal political/religious agenda like this; its petty.

If this guy is THAT set on getting 'a message' out, he can shop around a pro muslim character/comic, or self publish. You know, put him self out there, instead of...hijacking someone else's product.

Someone's never heard of Taqiyya.

Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Master on April 09, 2017, 09:37:50 AM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-to-discipline-x-men-gold-artist-for-controversia-1794142015

Marvel is re-releasing with the art removed and will be disciplining the guy. Considering he's a free lance artist, I assume he will just be blacklisted.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 09, 2017, 11:20:31 AM
I wonder if that will effect the value of the original version now.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 09, 2017, 12:49:56 PM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-to-discipline-x-men-gold-artist-for-controversia-1794142015

Marvel is re-releasing with the art removed and will be disciplining the guy. Considering he's a free lance artist, I assume he will just be blacklisted.

You know what that means get your extra copies.  Value has just gone up by n them.  🙃🙃🙃
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Animalia on April 09, 2017, 12:53:47 PM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-to-discipline-x-men-gold-artist-for-controversia-1794142015
will be disciplining the guy
Seeing as the guy loves Islam so much it would be nice to give him this kind of discipline...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/17/17/12/171712dddfe24fcf7f9a4a0730209adf.jpg)
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 09, 2017, 01:59:03 PM
http://io9.gizmodo.com/marvel-to-discipline-x-men-gold-artist-for-controversia-1794142015
will be disciplining the guy
Seeing as the guy loves Islam so much it would be nice to give him this kind of discipline...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/17/17/12/171712dddfe24fcf7f9a4a0730209adf.jpg)

At least make it for a serious crime.  This is nothing in comparison to some of the more blatant shit that people get away with.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Imperial on April 09, 2017, 02:28:22 PM
My take is...
...Dont push your personal political/religious agenda like this; its petty.

It's a shame that his career is probably all but over given that he had talent and a cool style (Quite liked his stuff on Simone's Batgirl, for instance.)

But I cannot disagree here. There is way too much agenda preaching in comics as is, without stuff like this added to the mix.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: g-train on April 09, 2017, 07:32:23 PM
Should have tried to get DC to give him a Muslim centered comic like that one car-thief they had going for awhile.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Tjackflash on April 09, 2017, 09:14:02 PM
The dopey thing about it is that X-Men is a book about the evils of exclusion. Mutants have been portrayed as stand-ins for the Jews under the Nazis since Chris Clarmont was writing the book in the late '70's. Aids victims during the Legacy virus during the '80's. And now as an amalgam of the Gay community and Muslims.  Always the X-Men have fought against the bigots of their world.  Now some schmuck try's to use them to spread a message of hate.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Strawman Abridged on April 10, 2017, 12:29:10 AM
Fucking Genoshans.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 10, 2017, 11:10:14 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbr.com/x-men-gold-artist-controversy/amp/

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In his social-media exchange, Syaf confirmed the numbers in “X-Men Gold” #1 refer to the December protests and to Purnama’s alleged blasphemy. “I told all Marvel the truth [sic] meaning of the number,” he wrote, “let’s see how Marvel will act."
Might be just me projecting, but that seems a shit attitude.
Its like 'yeah i did it, what're you going to do, punish me?'
By saying Marvel will 'act' he seems to be putting the negativity of the situation on them. Marvel isnt acting, its REacting, to something HE did.
He doesnt seem at all apologetic.

"This Facebook post is no longer available. It may have been removed or the privacy settings of the post may have change"

Looks like he realized it too, what a baby. Wonder if this fool has a family to support, if they do I feel bad they have to deal wit this fool. Unless of course, they support what he did then they can all enjoy unemployment together.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: 80sBaby on April 10, 2017, 11:28:18 AM
I'll never understand why people do stuff like this...say/write something they KNOW a good majority of people will find offensive and then post it publicly. Like the cases where people have said completely racist/sexist things on their Facebook and wind up fired. How did they honestly think their employer would respond?
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 10, 2017, 12:21:51 PM
Looks like Marvel will do something.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/10/arts/marvel-x-men-gold-syaf.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&_r=0&referer=
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Philosophia on April 13, 2017, 12:19:18 PM
"When Jew are offended, there is no mercy" - same artist, interview where he was fired.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/officially-fired-marvel-indonesian-artist-ardian-syaf-officially-says-jews-offended-no-mercy/

He's not only burning bridges, he's carpet bombing them.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: MTL76 on April 13, 2017, 09:36:45 PM
I'm fairly certain that within two years he'll be driving an Islamic Truck of Tolerance into a crowd in a European city.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: g-train on April 14, 2017, 05:13:26 PM
"When Jew are offended, there is no mercy" - same artist, interview where he was fired.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/officially-fired-marvel-indonesian-artist-ardian-syaf-officially-says-jews-offended-no-mercy/

He's not only burning bridges, he's carpet bombing them.

Yeah dude don't understand; Muslim population ain't big enough yet to get away with this kind of stuff.

Maybe, "maybe" at around 5% but not right now.  Needs to build a bit.

Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: shadowknight on April 15, 2017, 03:25:15 PM
"When Jew are offended, there is no mercy" - same artist, interview where he was fired.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/officially-fired-marvel-indonesian-artist-ardian-syaf-officially-says-jews-offended-no-mercy/

He's not only burning bridges, he's carpet bombing them.
The problem is it's like Artist from his country and majority Muslim countries are going to find it even harder to break in the comic book and entertainment field even if they cost less to hire. Thanks to this genius he reinforces  every negative ideas that exist about Muslim being full of hatred and closet terrorist. Can you imagine what a white racist or a jew who suffered from terrorism can do with this? This man couldn't add more fuel to the fire people who already don't trust Muslim as far as they can throw them short of going on TV and blowing himself up in major European or American city.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: g-train on April 15, 2017, 07:34:18 PM
"When Jew are offended, there is no mercy" - same artist, interview where he was fired.

https://coconuts.co/jakarta/news/officially-fired-marvel-indonesian-artist-ardian-syaf-officially-says-jews-offended-no-mercy/

He's not only burning bridges, he's carpet bombing them.
The problem is it's like Artist from his country and majority Muslim countries are going to find it even harder to break in the comic book and entertainment field even if they cost less to hire. Thanks to this genius he reinforces  every negative ideas that exist about Muslim being full of hatred and closet terrorist. Can you imagine what a white racist or a jew who suffered from terrorism can do with this? This man couldn't add more fuel to the fire people who already don't trust Muslim as far as they can throw them short of going on TV and blowing himself up in major European or American city.

Sadly; probably the point, wants to create more distrust and separation between the culture's.

Wants to try and drive more Muslim's into the arms of extremism and hopelessness.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 16, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
Why would some spend years and years learning the craft, refining your skill, forcing yourself to learn discipline, making the right moves, move up within the company (X-Men? Thats great for an artist) all to ruin it forever, and then to 100% solidify that he attacks the Jews. Fucking insane, what a stupid ass religion. He ruined his life over a fairy tale.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 16, 2017, 03:16:42 PM
People sink their careers all the time because of religion. At least no one is going to bat for him unlike other a lot of other times.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Strawman Abridged on April 25, 2017, 02:47:38 AM
Welp..now he can go ahead and illustrate the amazing adventures of the prophet Mohamummmnevermind.
Title: Re: Anti-Christian Pro-Islam message inside X-Men Gold art
Post by: Master on April 25, 2017, 09:43:05 PM
Welp..now he can go ahead and illustrate the amazing adventures of the prophet Mohamummmnevermind.

THE IRONY!