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Title: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 04, 2017, 08:42:58 PM
This is a thread, not about if you think we should go to war with North Korea, but whether or not you think we WILL go to war with North Korea. Let's shorten the time frame to Donald Trump's tenure.

Go.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Uhtceare on April 04, 2017, 09:29:35 PM
I doubt it. I doubt it a lot. It provokes China too much, and would likely result in mass deaths in South Korea, an important economic trading partner and ally.

Now Iran, on the other hand....I've been expecting a war on Iran since Trump first took office.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: altoon on April 04, 2017, 11:12:29 PM
Not to mention neither China or South Korea want to deal with the refugees if the North fell.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 05, 2017, 03:28:43 AM
Not to mention neither China or South Korea want to deal with the refugees if the North fell.

Yeah, every few years South Korea, Japan, the US, Russia, and (sometimes) China get together and discuss what they would do with refugees when North Korea finally collapses.

War is not profitable.  They seem to be waiting for things to happen naturally.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 05, 2017, 08:28:27 AM
One issue for a North Korean is that their neighboring countries truly discriminate against them (including South Koreans). Sad because the people they discriminate against left the country for a reason.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 05, 2017, 11:40:04 AM
Maybe.  Depends on how our new president act

It like two dude bros in a bar fight. Where they both talk shit screaming come at me bro

But neither one of them REALLY wants to come after each other. But they may accidently pushed themselves to the point where they have to

Now iran that the shit Im truly worry about. Since finnicialy they might be able to do some damage
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 05, 2017, 01:44:54 PM
Bannon just got kicked off the security council which is a good sign. They guy has a huge hard-on for going to war with China and taking on NK is a good step to that.

Having said that NK is chaotic. They may end of forcing our hand and Trump seems to have hand that will easily be forced.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: DarthAlani on April 05, 2017, 03:08:08 PM
Seoul would see mass casualties.  The Norks would bombard it with poison gas killing thousands. 
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 06, 2017, 06:29:40 PM
Do you think Trump could try and have Kim Jong assassinated CIA style?
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 11, 2017, 02:14:28 PM
Trump warns China on North Korea: Help solve the problem or 'we will'
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 11, 2017, 03:39:04 PM
Having him assassinated might be the best case scenario.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: MTL76 on April 11, 2017, 05:04:23 PM
Do you think Trump could try and have Kim Jong assassinated CIA style?

I wouldn't put much faith in that. Kim is a paranoid who never leaves his country, has established a cult of personality around him, and North Korea is an incredibly closed off country which is hard to get intel on. The CIA has limits.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Liam Gallaghers Unibrow on April 11, 2017, 06:55:53 PM
Also no-one really knows what the succession plan would be, the older brother was passed up for Kim Jong-un so his credibility as the next leader is compromised, un won't have a child old enough to take the reigns for a decade or more. So who the fuck knows what would happen if he got whacked. I guess you could hope for the best case scenario of the regime being fatally undermined and a step towards normality but the worst case scenario of a bloody power struggle between factions in the regime is probably a lot more likely.


Cheers.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 11, 2017, 07:03:30 PM
Yeah, if Kim is whacked then we have another refugee crisis.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Uhtceare on April 11, 2017, 07:24:53 PM
If he wasn't holding Seoul hostage I'd say risk some refugees and chaos. That regime is a cancer, and cancer needs to be cut out. Unfortunately, he's got enough firepower to take Seoul with him to the grave, and Seoul contains half the population of South Korea.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 11, 2017, 08:32:15 PM
Kim Jong Un has now said that if a single bullet hits North Korea, he will nuke America. Analysts don't believe he has the capability but with this crazed loon who knows what would happen. You can't apply logical thinking to illogical people.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Uhtceare on April 11, 2017, 09:08:58 PM
His threats against America are likely bullshit. But since he has half the population of our most loyal friend in Asia as a hostage, does it matter? Provoking him into nuking Seoul is not an option.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 11, 2017, 11:57:46 PM
You are using the term "hostage" way too liberally.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 12, 2017, 12:02:47 AM
apprently trump offering to a friend trade deal to china

if they help him with China. That going to ticked of some of his people. But dont necceary know if that kind of trade bad or not.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/world/asia/trump-china-trade-north-korea.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 12, 2017, 06:54:39 PM
China sends warning to North Korea not to mess with US

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China issued a blunt warning to North Korea on Wednesday — telling its belligerent ally to not conduct nuclear weapons or missile tests, or it was likely to face military action by the US.

“Not only [is] Washington brimming with confidence and arrogance following the missile attacks on Syria, but Trump is also willing to be regarded as a man who honors his promises,” said the People’s Daily, the ruling Communist Party’s official paper.

North Korea should halt any plans for nuclear and missile tests “for its own security,” the newspaper said, making it clear that the US would not “co-exist” with a nuclear-armed Pyongyang.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 12, 2017, 08:39:18 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/851767718248361986
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: altoon on April 13, 2017, 08:55:54 AM
You are using the term "hostage" way too liberally.

It basically true.  China intervention is low but if we attack NK there gonna send every thing they have at Seoul and burn it to the ground.  That the biggest thing keeping us from doing anything.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 13, 2017, 11:20:35 AM
Satellite photos show North Korean nuclear site 'primed and ready'

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(CNN)North Korean monitoring service 38 North said Wednesday the country's Punggye-ri nuclear site is "primed and ready" for a sixth nuclear test.

"The activity during the past six weeks is suggestive of the final preparations for a test," 38 North analyst Joseph Bermudez told CNN.

Some believe this will happen today, a day after China warned North Korea not to mess with the US
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 13, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
US may launch strike if North Korea moves to test nuclear weapon: report


Shits getting serious
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 13, 2017, 09:31:07 PM
umm what the age they stop drafting people
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: altoon on April 14, 2017, 01:39:09 AM
US may launch strike if North Korea moves to test nuclear weapon: report


Shits getting serious

Posturing this isn't  Syria.  NK will retaliate.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 14, 2017, 02:24:52 AM
Gotta give it!  Nk isn't a bunch of guerilla style mercenaries. 
And I can see something popping off tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 14, 2017, 03:34:32 PM
China fears North Korea-US conflict 'at any moment'

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China has warned that "conflict could break out at any moment" as tension over North Korea increases.
Foreign Minister Wang Yi said if war occurred there could be no winner.
Mr Wang's comments come as the US voices increasing concern at North Korea's development of nuclear weapons and deploys a Navy carrier group off the Korean peninsula.
China, North Korea's only backer, fears conflict could cause the regime to collapse and problems on its border.
Mr Wang said: "One has the feeling that a conflict could break out at any moment.
"I think that all relevant parties should be highly vigilant with regards to this situation."
"We call on all parties to refrain from provoking and threatening each other, whether in words or actions, and not let the situation get to an irreversible and unmanageable stage."
Adding to Chinese unease, President Donald Trump said on Thursday that "the problem of North Korea" would be "taken care of".

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"If China decides to help, that would be great. If not, we will solve the problem without them! U.S.A."-Donald Trump on twitter

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The North Korean military responded on Friday by saying it would "mercilessly foil" any US provocation.
"Our toughest counteraction against the U.S. and its vassal forces will be taken in such a merciless manner as not to allow the aggressors to survive," read a statement from the army, reported in English by North Korea's official news agency, KCNA.

Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: g-train on April 14, 2017, 05:16:49 PM
Gotta give it!  Nk isn't a bunch of guerilla style mercenaries. 
And I can see something popping off tonight or tomorrow.

That's what makes it a much easier war.

Larger, more specific targets, an enemy with a "god" that can be killed. 

Probably go like Desert Storm back in the day, sans Seol getting nuked anyways.....
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 14, 2017, 11:26:55 PM
You are using the term "hostage" way too liberally.

It basically true.  China intervention is low but if we attack NK there gonna send every thing they have at Seoul and burn it to the ground.  That the biggest thing keeping us from doing anything.

They've been threatening to blow up the city at least once a day for 70 years.  People here are pretty used to it.  It's business as usual.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 15, 2017, 01:40:17 AM
Gotta give it!  Nk isn't a bunch of guerilla style mercenaries. 
And I can see something popping off tonight or tomorrow.

That's what makes it a much easier war.

Larger, more specific targets, an enemy with a "god" that can be killed. 

Probably go like Desert Storm back in the day, sans Seol getting nuked anyways.....

This is true.  But, another thing to consider is what will he do to the populace if we cross that border? 
He's already proven he has no issue killing relatives in position of power.  Would he turn his army against them to keep us out.  I would think so. 
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 15, 2017, 01:20:41 PM
remember when people said the media and the dems were panting trump out as a boogey man


if he does this..if he gets us involve in a war with NK..then he the fucking boogey man
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 15, 2017, 03:38:25 PM
Looks like North Korea backed down today, no nuclear test
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: g-train on April 15, 2017, 07:23:34 PM
Gotta give it!  Nk isn't a bunch of guerilla style mercenaries. 
And I can see something popping off tonight or tomorrow.

That's what makes it a much easier war.

Larger, more specific targets, an enemy with a "god" that can be killed. 

Probably go like Desert Storm back in the day, sans Seol getting nuked anyways.....

This is true.  But, another three no to consider is what will he do to the populace if we cross that border? 
He's already proven he has no issue killing relatives in position of power.  Would he turn his army against them to keep us out.  I would think so.

Doesn't he already have concentration camps and mass starvation going on?

Honestly; we could run roughshod over his arm so quickly it would be ridiculous.  Though some of them might be crazy high trained but we just have such an advantage on those guys it's not even ridiculous.

God knows the moral drop if they lose their own personal Jesus. 
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 15, 2017, 07:39:52 PM
Welp they just did the test

fortunly the missle shit the bed

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 15, 2017, 07:42:03 PM
Question is since their man child did the test

how will our man child react
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 15, 2017, 07:50:18 PM
in other news we had our own little test
https://www.rt.com/usa/384786-nuclear-bomb-test-nevada
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 15, 2017, 08:03:55 PM
Welp they just did the test

fortunly the missle shit the bed

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/15/asia/north-korea-missile-test/index.html

Shit
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Dlbiininja on April 15, 2017, 09:34:10 PM
in other news we had our own little test
https://www.rt.com/usa/384786-nuclear-bomb-test-nevada

This sounds like just an ongoing development of this system as opposed to just flexing muscle.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 17, 2017, 06:56:45 PM
A lot has happened today that is escalating the situation tenfold.

1) Mike Pence visited South Korea and actually went to the demilitarization zone where he could look at North Koreans.

(https://tribwxin.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/s077839766.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=770)

He said "the era of strategic patience" is over when it comes to  North Korea. What does that mean? We shall see.

2) North Korea will "test missiles weekly." This can easily be seen as further aggression by North Korea during a tenuous time.

3) US Warships deployed to South Korea.

There are more fighter jets on a single carrier then most nations have in their entire arsenal.

"The strike group comprises the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, two guided-missile destroyers and a guided-missile cruiser.
As well as massive striking power, the carrier group - headed by Admiral Nora Tyson - has the capability to intercept ballistic missiles.
It was originally due to make port calls in Australia but instead has been diverted from Singapore to the west Pacific - where it recently conducted exercises with the South Korean Navy."M

Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 18, 2017, 12:43:50 AM
turns out we might of hacked thier missels.  Key word MIGHT OF. Least that the theory. If so.


Good that we can do it

Risky because we can get caught.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 18, 2017, 08:33:38 AM
turns out we might of hacked thier missels.  Key word MIGHT OF. Least that the theory. If so.


Good that we can do it

Risky because we can get caught.

I get the feeling we could counter almost anything North Korea can fire including a nuke (take it out before it reaches its destination). I think the reason why we dont admit is is for several reasons: 1) classified operations 2) we've never had an adversary launch a nuke so how confident can we be? 3) us military has a record of fucking up in regard to the unknown. 4) looks more badass when we succeed in something most Americans or the world didn't know we were capable of.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: altoon on April 18, 2017, 01:57:35 PM
We have the ability it just like u said we never had to use it so we don't know how effective it will be. Then when it comes to anything launched at SK Well Seoul is 35 miles from NK borders no much time to react depending were it launched from
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 18, 2017, 07:09:17 PM
We have the ability it just like u said we never had to use it so we don't know how effective it will be. Then when it comes to anything launched at SK Well Seoul is 35 miles from NK borders no much time to react depending were it launched from

Imagine if he does that? Imagine if he's SO mad that some of his military bases gets destroyed that he decides to NUKE a city with millions of people for literally no reason. God, just pure evil.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 19, 2017, 11:04:29 AM
ohhh I assume seoul fucked


but i think it cant reach us

meanwhile....pence


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/19/sword-stands-ready-pence-warns-north-korea.html

Shut the fuck up Pence.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: MTL76 on April 19, 2017, 06:56:44 PM
It is naive to think we should pull out of South Korea completely? Force North and South to finally start communicating?
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 19, 2017, 07:12:49 PM
They communicate on a daily basis.  Seriously the Western media outlets sensationalize the hell out of this.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: MTL76 on April 19, 2017, 07:42:02 PM
I know they do. By "communicating" I meant making inroads into moving towards some kind of normalized relationship. I feel like theUSA's presence just maintains the status quo.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 19, 2017, 09:47:48 PM
I know they do. By "communicating" I meant making inroads into moving towards some kind of normalized relationship. I feel like theUSA's presence just maintains the status quo.

Yeah, there have been multiple times over the years where they tried to make that happen.  About three presidents ago, a lot of headway was made but it didn't last long.  North Korea wants South Korea's aid and has asked for it multiple times over the past 20 years or so and they usually get something, depending on who's in power over here.  After NK bombed that island a few years back, I think they stopped.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 19, 2017, 09:49:56 PM
Also keep in mind that whenever the US or SK get a new president, the North likes ot flex its muscles and act up.  The US just got Trump and, I'm not sure if you know this, but the current president in the South got impeached and a new one will be elected soon.  It seems to be the right time for NK to raise a lot of noise, only for nothing to come of it.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: g-train on April 19, 2017, 10:02:02 PM
I have to imagine a full on war would erupt if the US pulled out of South Korea.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 19, 2017, 10:02:47 PM
promblem is you having two very thin skin guys agaisnt each other.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: Pillow Biter on April 20, 2017, 09:52:09 AM
In some ways, all the US presence does is insure that the US must get involved if China gets any funny ideas about bullying South Korea.
I believe that South Korea alone would beat the fuck out of the North in a war--though Northern Seoul might burn.

Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: g-train on April 20, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
In some ways, all the US presence does is insure that the US must get involved if China gets any funny ideas about bullying South Korea.
I believe that South Korea alone would beat the fuck out of the North in a war--though Northern Seoul might burn.

Yeah but as pointed out that's like....half their population....not really a small loss.

Long term might in getting rid of North Korea.

But unless they went full genocide that probably won't happen either.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 27, 2017, 10:54:57 PM
"Trump says 'major, major' conflict with North Korea possible, but seeks diplomacy."

OFFICIAL PREDICTION:

If and when North Korea tests nuclear weapons, they will be bombed. That doesn't mean regime change will happen. How Kim Jong Un responds will depend on his mental stability.

ALSO:

It is starting to become noticed how much the media is beginning to accept a conflict with North Korea. The war drums are definitely beating, this time is pretty bizarre since it ISN'T a Middle East country and it's not about oil. However, the argument a lot of "experts" are saying that, even if North Korea doesn't act violently, it obtaining ICBMs will change the world. This could result in countries like South Korea and Japan obtaining nukes and thus creating a domino effect around the world. It would also show countries like Iran, who we have issues with, that if they obtain nuclear weapons they will be okay.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 28, 2017, 12:15:57 AM
was pretty sure iran would be who we be fucking with

But this North Korea thing was a sucker punch
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 28, 2017, 06:46:03 PM
It's bizarre rock, I agree. Who would have thought?

And another BREAKING NEWS announcement, North Korea tests yet ANOTHER ballistic missile this time into the Sea of Japan.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 28, 2017, 08:29:23 PM
It's bizarre rock, I agree. Who would have thought?

And another BREAKING NEWS announcement, North Korea tests yet ANOTHER ballistic missile this time into the Sea of Japan.

Reluctant agreement is the best kind of agreement.


Least these missiles so far seem to suck. Either that we been hacking them.

So I guess that some solace

Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: g-train on April 28, 2017, 08:36:25 PM
It's bizarre rock, I agree. Who would have thought?

And another BREAKING NEWS announcement, North Korea tests yet ANOTHER ballistic missile this time into the Sea of Japan.

Reluctant agreement is the best kind of agreement.


Least these missiles so far seem to suck. Either that we been hacking them.

So I guess that some solace

You ever wonder how North Korea can suck "this" badly?

I mean; aside from being unfathomably evil, they are ridiculously incompetent and clownish.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 28, 2017, 09:00:14 PM
It's bizarre rock, I agree. Who would have thought?

And another BREAKING NEWS announcement, North Korea tests yet ANOTHER ballistic missile this time into the Sea of Japan.

Reluctant agreement is the best kind of agreement.


Least these missiles so far seem to suck. Either that we been hacking them.

So I guess that some solace

You ever wonder how North Korea can suck "this" badly?

I mean; aside from being unfathomably evil, they are ridiculously incompetent and clownish.

Rock may be right (not saying hes saying that's the case), but some experts are saying we do have the capabilities of hacking missiles and ensuring it to fail (there was rumors we did it to Iran before and North Korea a few times). That's either true or they just plan on failing endlessly (remember, they promised weekly missile tests) until they get it right.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 29, 2017, 02:57:40 AM
There are interesting articles about this.  They are too poor, uneducated, etc. to ever pose a serious threat to anyone.  Even in a one-on-one battle with South Korea, they would get their shit pushed in at this point and SK is not that strong in terms of military might.  They often throw these little temper tantrums to 1) bolster their own propaganda for their citizens and 2) they hope the UN or someone will throw some aid at them to get them to shut up.  They are kind of stuck doing this, too.  If the Kims ever let up, their citizens would revolt and the country would turn into the Somalia of Asia over night.  If they provoke actual war, then they will be destroyed over night.  They are kind of stuck in this situation until someone wipes them out or they collapse entirely.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: ProjectCornDog on April 29, 2017, 09:56:14 AM
There are interesting articles about this.  They are too poor, uneducated, etc. to ever pose a serious threat to anyone.  Even in a one-on-one battle with South Korea, they would get their shit pushed in at this point and SK is not that strong in terms of military might.  They often throw these little temper tantrums to 1) bolster their own propaganda for their citizens and 2) they hope the UN or someone will throw some aid at them to get them to shut up.  They are kind of stuck doing this, too.  If the Kims ever let up, their citizens would revolt and the country would turn into the Somalia of Asia over night.  If they provoke actual war, then they will be destroyed over night.  They are kind of stuck in this situation until someone wipes them out or they collapse entirely.

It's a really really unusual situation since we don't really know what would happen. If we didn't care about their civilians at all, you are right we would dominate them. But don't forget the Korean War, that was not an easy war (and remember, we didn't "win" or they wouldn't exist in the first place). Granted, they had the help from the Chinese and they wouldn't have those this time. They still do have over a MILLION soldiers, but in this day and age how much does that matter?

MY GUESS is that if they test nukes again, we will try our best to locate all their military bases that pose a "threat" and take them out. Based on Kim Jong Un's mental stability would dictate his response. Will he be so mad that he will actually kill thousands to millions of people in South Korea that would ultimately end his life since theres no way we all wouldnt retaliate?

Apparently China DID threaten North Korea with sanctions which is pretty unheard of. So time will tell (and this wont take long) to see how stupid North Korea truly is. China is worried as fuck because like you said it would be Somalia overnight and there would be a MAJOR refugee crisis that would impact all the neighboring countries for years and years.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: AP on April 29, 2017, 09:43:01 PM
North Korea in the 1950's was a fairly powerful country at leas tin terms of the military.  The southern part of the peninsula were ill equipped for a civil war.  Since that time, it has depleted its resources to the point where it is very much a third world country while South Korea has grown.  If North Korea started a war, the estimates is that it would fall in about three days.  Their missile systems don't work properly and they mostly rely on infantry, which is outdated by several decades.
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on April 30, 2017, 01:26:43 PM
Actully hard to figure out what to do

While Kim looks like Charlie brown trying to kick the football with these missle test, eventully one of these will work
We dont want them to get nukes. But it hard to talk them out it, because the last person we told not to used nuke..his head was used as a soccer ball
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: therock on May 14, 2017, 12:10:04 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/skorea-rival-n-korea-launches-221238531.html


oh shit these missles starting to suck less balls
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: nu-safado on May 17, 2017, 12:43:59 AM
The problem with NK is that there is no palatable solution

China is usually the intermediary and we don't know how much leverage they hold over NK and they always exact a toll. The price for their cooperation is usually economic trade liberties

Militarily North Korea knows the US is unpredictable and see's a nuclear weapon as it's only real deterrant and guarantee of survivial.

If you were the regime in NK and you saw Trump randomly picking fights with allies, who's to say he might not decide to create an issue with you as well?

The tricky part is that even in conventional warfare there noe easy option

If US planes fly sorties into North Korea they will take losses against North Korean S-300's (similar to Patriot missile defenses)

If infantry hits the ground it's a land war in Asia, and it's time-consuming. Anything that's time consuming allows conventional North Korean weapons to devastate Seoul with missiles and no defense system in the world can pick them all off. Seoul is nearly as densely packed as Tokyo, it would be unreal.

Intelligence has no guarantee's of all of North Korea's hidden missiles silo's as well. In a best case scenario the US takes out scores of NK targets but NK stll has missiles flying into Seoul and depending if its infantry or air war, the US is still taking heavy losses.

The only guarantee the US has is nuclear in miitary terms and the political fallout would be huge to say the least.

North Korea has been after a guarantee for a while and I think the situation will eventually come to a head. Hopefully Trump wull be impeached before it does
Title: Re: Will we go to war with North Korea?
Post by: g-train on May 17, 2017, 03:33:28 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/news/skorea-rival-n-korea-launches-221238531.html


oh shit these missles starting to suck less balls

People always ask, what would you have done during the rise of Hitler?

Turns out; we would have done nothing.

Going by how we deal with North Korea.