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Title: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Clock on February 27, 2017, 10:34:12 AM
https://youtu.be/rc5LbCZMpCA (https://youtu.be/rc5LbCZMpCA)
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on March 01, 2017, 06:52:20 PM
I'll get to fight a Balrog and defend Minas Ithil/Morgul? Sign me up.

I just hope the games boss battles are better in the endgame than the first game.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Gree on March 01, 2017, 08:29:42 PM
Great chi, very excite
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on March 17, 2017, 11:32:12 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/watch-16-minutes-of-middle-earth-shadow-of-war-gam/1100-6448521/

Gameplay trailer looks great. Some tweaks to the combat system, but now there's some RTS involved. You can actually mold an army of orcs together with different traits/strengths/weaknesses for defending territories and conquering territories. Looks like close to a dozen territories involved, and apparently each territory will be randomly generate unique overlords and defenses to face.

Judging from the one overlord fight shown, they have put more thought into boss fights. Hopefully the endgame is solid because the weakest part of Shadow of Mordor were the final boss fights... which were hardly fights at all.

Also, I want to ride a flying fire drake and burn everything to the ground.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Crab Master on March 17, 2017, 12:06:11 PM
Looks promising.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on March 18, 2017, 06:51:50 AM
One of the producers says that players start off in Gondor, so the first few missions are in the world of men where you learn about fortress hierarchy. Then you apply that as you go back to conquering Mordor and the surrounding territories. Guy also said that once in Mordor, you can attempt conquering territories in any order, even though the locations differ in difficulty based on proximity to Baradur.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on March 18, 2017, 10:26:02 AM
More info that came from a live-stream with the developers:

- roughly 100 unlockable skills
- you CANNOT brand enemies that have a significantly higher level than you
- drakes can normally only be branded once you knock their health down a bit
- you can save your allies when they are dying... if you don't, they may come back as enemies
- if you fail an assault or fail a defense, some of your captains/overlords may die or be captured... if captured, you get an optional mission to rescue them which can increase their loyalty if you save them
- the gameplay trailer shows the deadshot spy orc captain save you from getting killed... the game will give you the option to choose to save yourself (quick time event) or to have one of your captains attempt a rescue
- very loyal captains may rush in to help you without being asked... captains with low loyalty may wait for opportune moments to betray you during a mission/defense/siege
- orcs will sometimes have loyalties and rivalries with each other before you get involved... if you make one of your captains fight former allies, it will make them unhappy
- there will be different classes of orcs to mix things up... necromancers, beast masters, assassins, destroyers, tricksters, terrors, maurauders, and marksman
- necromancers can raise dead enemies during battle (no confirmation if they can raise dead captains/warchiefs/overlords)
- you can now use different melee weapons (sword, spear, and war hammer mentioned so far)... the spear was described as being used for heavy strikes
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Gree on March 18, 2017, 04:09:29 PM
I remember how much I loved this game. Until someone broke into my bougey apartment in Philly and stole my PS4 containing my SOM. Bastards
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on March 18, 2017, 04:54:29 PM
I hope saved data from the first transfers over. Bring some of my War Chiefs over. Had one guy with a cross bow that shot explosive arrows that just murdered everyone.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on April 21, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
http://m.ign.com/videos/2017/04/20/shadow-of-war-unlocking-the-predator-skill-tree-ign-first

Some new abilities in the skill tree.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 21, 2017, 10:26:34 PM
I hope saved data from the first transfers over. Bring some of my War Chiefs over. Had one guy with a cross bow that shot explosive arrows that just murdered everyone.
I'd like to see a game that penalizes you if you played the first one.

Like if you die in the game you die in real life.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Mightily Oats on April 22, 2017, 06:48:20 AM
I hope saved data from the first transfers over. Bring some of my War Chiefs over. Had one guy with a cross bow that shot explosive arrows that just murdered everyone.
I'd like to see a game that penalizes you if you played the first one.

Like if you die in the game you die in real life.
But you'd be so fucking dead, doe
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on April 22, 2017, 07:03:13 AM
I'd like if they added some Legend of Zelda amiibos to this game. Werewolf Link would be amazing for fortress raids, amirite u gaiz?
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Mightily Oats on April 22, 2017, 09:29:36 AM
I'd like if they added some Legend of Zelda amiibos to this game. Werewolf Link would be amazing for fortress raids, amirite u gaiz?
Never tell me the odds!

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Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Mightily Oats on April 22, 2017, 09:30:14 AM
But legit, if this was on Switch, Mario, Link and SAMUS captains should be mandatory
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: XerxesTWD on April 22, 2017, 10:54:58 AM
I'd like if they added some Legend of Zelda amiibos to this game. Werewolf Link would be amazing for fortress raids, amirite u gaiz?
Ohhh shhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiit
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on April 22, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
I know that was a joke but yeah that would be awesome actually.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Kallor on April 22, 2017, 11:11:36 AM
Light arrow into Sauron's eye ftw.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Gree on May 22, 2017, 10:02:34 PM
Anyone else seriously underwhelmed with the graphics
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on May 26, 2017, 11:54:54 AM
I'm whelmed.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on June 09, 2017, 08:46:48 AM
New trailer. Basically just story/cutscenes with a little gameplay.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-new-shadow-of-war-trailer-throws-a-tolkienesque-kit-1795926940

Is that Shelob taking a human form?
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: MTL76 on June 10, 2017, 09:28:06 AM
Can you play as the Orks, and wage a campaign to rid Middle-Earth of all of the authoritarian Hobbit and Elven filth, then establish a secular Orkish republic based on the principles of individual liberty, equality and plurality?
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Uhtceare on June 10, 2017, 09:55:37 AM
Can you play as the Orks, and wage a campaign to rid Middle-Earth of all of the authoritarian Hobbit and Elven filth, then establish a secular Orkish republic based on the principles of individual liberty, equality and plurality?

Wasn't there a Russian novel with that premise?
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on January 24, 2018, 12:21:58 PM
Finally got this. Act 1 was a fucking chore... slogging through lame shit to regain all the powers Talion had at the end of the last game.

Now I’m finally back to dominating Orcs and building an army, which is fun. I like collecting captains, setting a bodyguard, completing challenges to eliminate enemies or rank up my orcs, etc. This game plays SUPER LOOSE with Tolkien lore (compared to the liberties taken in the first game). Will hopefully be killing the Witch King and riding dragons soon.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on February 03, 2018, 08:15:05 AM
Riding drakes is a blast. Capturing my first Region and raiding a fortress were also really fun.

But in the next regions I can’t bring my bodyguard captain with me? Guuuuuuuhhhhhhh.... so each region is just a different looking repeat of level up, dominate captains and war chiefs, and then raid the fortress? The fortress stuff is great, but I wish I could get to it quicker.

Minas Morgul looks promising, as you have to fight the Nazgul... but those missions seem locked for now. Ah well.

Nemesis system is fantastic. I had a powerful captain Ronk the Poisoner who tried to betray me by ambusing me during a mission to draw out a war chief. I beat him up and dominated his mind again without blowing the mission. As punishment, I put him in the fighting pits over and over again until he finally died, earning me lots of loot along the way.

So later on he pops up randomly to say he’s back from the dead AND betraying me again... because I left him to die in the fight pits. I try to dominate him again, but now his will cannot he dominated. He can also now rapidly adapt defenses to all of my attacks. I ended up killing him by cleaving his body in half at the waist.

If this guy comes back again, I’ll probably need a fucking drake or graug to kill him.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on February 11, 2018, 06:21:20 PM
No return of Ronk yet, but I am liking the main quests in this game. Helping the forest spirit Maiar fight the Balrog was fun. The Bruz/Ratbag stuff is nothing crazy great, but it is entertaining.

Galadriel’s elf assassin is neat... if only because I know the new expansion centers on her. And another expansion in May where go to Harard? As a normal Gondorian captain who cannot resurrect? Sign me up for that. I want to see the nemesis system play out in a different way. Guess you’ll have to recruit Easterlings through force? Maybe hiring troops through the market?
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Gree on February 12, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
So seems like I’m not crazy and most agree/realize that oddly the graphics can be inferior to SOM. Kind of shocking and upsetting for a big visuals guy like myself, particularly the character models of Talion. You’d think they’d focus on maximizing the potential
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on February 16, 2018, 06:44:15 AM
Yeah, the graphics seem to be equivalent to SoM... and sometimes not as crisp. But hey, I’ll take better gameplay over better graphics. And the gameplay here is improved (not huge improvements, but it is better).

Fortress defense is pretty damn fun, especially since you can make customizations to your defense just like you can to offense. I wish you could control the direction your assault leaders travel... as that would really help add to the strategy of an assault. But orcs are not known for being super strategic military units. They are known for overwhelming with brute force.

Also I have noticed that several captains might betray you at once in a rebellion (rebellion actually flashes on the screen). I read online this can happen if your region is too peaceful. So now I leave a handful of enemy captains alive in each region.

Had a shaking go bad and turned a level 40 enemy captain into a level 53 maniac. I’m still at 39, so it’s a bit worrying depending on if he’s gained some new immunities.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Gree on February 16, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
Is there any obvious reason you see for the game being rated less
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Master on February 23, 2018, 09:31:02 AM
Rated less than SoM? I’d say SoM is very good game that got over-rated as a great game due to (1) the nemesis system being so novel and (2) its basis in Lord of the Rings.

So now that newness of nemesis has worn off, the sequel isn’t being rated as high despite making some improvements.

I’m into the Shadow Wars now. Very interesting ending act here. I won’t give away details that could be ultra spoilery, but I like having the Raise the Dead ability.
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Thanos6 on February 24, 2018, 07:14:17 AM
Can you play as the Orks, and wage a campaign to rid Middle-Earth of all of the authoritarian Hobbit and Elven filth, then establish a secular Orkish republic based on the principles of individual liberty, equality and plurality?

Wasn't there a Russian novel with that premise?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Ringbearer
Title: Re: Middle-earth: Shadow of War
Post by: Mightily Oats on February 24, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
Rated less than SoM? I’d say SoM is very good game that got over-rated as a great game due to (1) the nemesis system being so novel and (2) its basis in Lord of the Rings.

So now that newness of nemesis has worn off, the sequel isn’t being rated as high despite making some improvements.

I’m into the Shadow Wars now. Very interesting ending act here. I won’t give away details that could be ultra spoilery, but I like having the Raise the Dead ability.
I enjoyed playing Shadow of Mordor, but I gave zero fucking shits about anything and everything that was happening.

I played it for about 20 hours, then deleted it, having only died like twice and not getting out of the first area