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Title: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 14, 2016, 01:46:08 PM
With more and more horrible picks, every day don't know where to put the news. So figure I put it in here


Recent, is the Exxon guy as secretary of state.  Making it clear he was just fucking with Romney
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/196/291/43e.jpg)

And Perry the head of EPA, which might of been the 3rd agency he would cut that he couldn't name


Anyway the pattern seem to be. the republicans want to cut or end these agencies. But they know doing it outright would even make the pussy dems and media give them blow back. And people might hate it. so the pick people who on record for wanting to end those agnecies in charge of said agnecies.  So they can make them function badly. So when it goes to shit they can say "see these government agencies are worthless"

Hell be cool with them giving Kayne West a Job maybe council for modesty..because fuck it.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on December 14, 2016, 01:48:32 PM
Honestly with the picks he's been making I'm surprised we didn't get a flat earther to oversee NASA.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 14, 2016, 01:56:17 PM
Honestly with the picks he's been making I'm surprised we didn't get a flat earther to oversee NASA.

The only good side, is this dude is so blantant. He may do something that will get him impeach. He already pushed back what he will do with his business (was suspose to have the press conference I think today or tomorrow) to sometime next year...if that. So that might be what gets him since he doesn't want to stop his business. He had no plan to because at first don't think he thought he would win. Which why he still want to live in trump tower. So stuff like that might be wants gets him

But even if that happens..you got president fucking pence. So will make people hesitant about taking him down.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: NeoGreenLantern on December 14, 2016, 02:04:41 PM
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310321-trump-names-elon-musk-uber-ceo-to-advisory-team

Holy shit. A kernel of hope!
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: nu-safado on December 14, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Hes been reaching out to Silicon Valley. Wonder if he's trying to reconcile clean energy while kissing Fossil Fuels ass?
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: AP on December 14, 2016, 06:23:44 PM
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310321-trump-names-elon-musk-uber-ceo-to-advisory-team

Holy shit. A kernel of hope!

The diamond in the rough to be sure.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 14, 2016, 06:49:38 PM
When he does stuff like this he should be compliment. Not just because it the right thing to do. But you got to think of it like raising a child

You need a positive and negative reinforcement with this guy. A scolding when bad. Go full tiger mom there. But when something done goid you put it on the refrigerator
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 14, 2016, 07:00:05 PM
Turn out trump wanted romney to do a public apology before given sec of state

Be he still wouldn't have got it if he did
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: herochat on December 15, 2016, 01:58:00 AM
Im not gonna lie, man. Im honestly scared af

And im a fairly straight white male
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on December 15, 2016, 10:59:58 AM
Well, enough of the voters chose Trump be wise they wanted an "outsider". I get it. But fuck... I wish there had been an outsider with some political experience.

I mean, if you want a fresh perspective to help boost your business, you go find a good person for the job... which requires some applicable experience. You don't hire someone who needs training to do the job in the first place.

But hey, the establishment Dems and GOP tried to give us shit candidates. Trump was the only "outsider" to cross the finish line, and he is shitty too. Will the Dems and GOP learn from their humiliating national defeat? I guess we will find out in 4 years... 4 years of Trump blindly working his way through the system and shitting over everything along the way.

Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 15, 2016, 11:18:56 AM
They might put even more insiders if trump fucks up


And say hey you got a total outsider. Hell and outsider who hired outsider and look what fucking happen

When really is a middle groud between the same old dudes  and some guy who walks of the street

Hopefully if these programs get cut or ended people in 4 years why they were needed and put them back

Like we need the prigrams like the epa
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Liam on December 15, 2016, 07:16:19 PM
Well, enough of the voters chose Trump be wise they wanted an "outsider". I get it. But fuck... I wish there had been an outsider with some political experience.

I mean, if you want a fresh perspective to help boost your business, you go find a good person for the job... which requires some applicable experience. You don't hire someone who needs training to do the job in the first place.

But hey, the establishment Dems and GOP tried to give us shit candidates. Trump was the only "outsider" to cross the finish line, and he is shitty too. Will the Dems and GOP learn from their humiliating national defeat?

No, because they were never ignorant in the first place. Rather, supporting an establishment sucker of the corporate cock is in the interests of corporate donors. That's never going to change. Someone like Bernie Sanders is their enemy. They knew Clinton was a high-risk candidate, but better to support a high-risk candidate who will support their interests over a low-risk candidate who is their enemy. It's not even a contest. Even if Hillary only had a one in a million chance of winning, they'd support her because better to buy that lottery ticket than to support an enemy. And they haven't really lost. They've got pro-corporate guys in most congressional seats, most state governments, and even their presidential failure just resulted in a stupid version of pro-corporate getting into office.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 15, 2016, 08:38:06 PM
Think the scariest pick is the black sherif he given a job. I think homeland security. Sadly he not the one from blazing sadals. He the guy from fix who allowed someone to die of thirst
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: g-train on December 16, 2016, 04:17:24 PM
Well, enough of the voters chose Trump be wise they wanted an "outsider". I get it. But fuck... I wish there had been an outsider with some political experience.

I mean, if you want a fresh perspective to help boost your business, you go find a good person for the job... which requires some applicable experience. You don't hire someone who needs training to do the job in the first place.

But hey, the establishment Dems and GOP tried to give us shit candidates. Trump was the only "outsider" to cross the finish line, and he is shitty too. Will the Dems and GOP learn from their humiliating national defeat?

No, because they were never ignorant in the first place. Rather, supporting an establishment sucker of the corporate cock is in the interests of corporate donors. That's never going to change. Someone like Bernie Sanders is their enemy. They knew Clinton was a high-risk candidate, but better to support a high-risk candidate who will support their interests over a low-risk candidate who is their enemy. It's not even a contest. Even if Hillary only had a one in a million chance of winning, they'd support her because better to buy that lottery ticket than to support an enemy. And they haven't really lost. They've got pro-corporate guys in most congressional seats, most state governments, and even their presidential failure just resulted in a stupid version of pro-corporate getting into office.

Yeah is it weird how the more I know about politics the more I start to agree with Panthergod?  I mean, illuminati/racist stuff aside.

Hell; the man had a point about Darkseid and Superman, now this.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 18, 2016, 11:21:14 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/18/leak-rex-tillerson-director-bahamas-based-us-russian-oil-company

Fuck it man..just fuck it
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Fifthchild on December 19, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
Well, enough of the voters chose Trump be wise they wanted an "outsider". I get it. But fuck... I wish there had been an outsider with some political experience.

They got their Washington outsider as leader - the outsider America deserves, not the outsider it needs...

(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2011/09/vladimir-putin-action-man/p34_DWI22303/main_900.jpg?1420519465)
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Liam on December 19, 2016, 02:49:52 AM
Putin has a 37% approval rate amongst Republicans. That's shockingly high for the Dictator of America's cold war enemy, especially considering how massively anti-Russian Republicans were historically. What's changed? Russian used to be communist, now it's basically fascist. Republicans don't have a big problem with fascists. They were completely horrified by the communists, because they threatened their money. But fascists? Fascists are just good, orderly, capitalist types who have gone a trifle too far in the minds of Republicans.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on December 19, 2016, 07:26:17 AM
Pre-Obama, the GOP still didn't like Putin. But when Obama was in office, the GOP was willing to look favorably on anyone who opposed Obama. And that included Putin. FOX News slowly started incorporating commentary in how Obama should be a strong leader like Putin rather than a big puss, especially when it came to handling terrorists. Granted, anytime Obama took a firm stance or stood up to the GOP, they whined about him being a fascist or using his executive powers unconstitutionally.

So they didn't ever want a fascist, but they wanted the opposite of whatever Obama did. Obama conflicted with Putin? The GOP wanted a leader more like Putin or to work with Putin. Obama negotiated with Iran? The GOP hated Iran and wanted a leader that would punish/subdue them.

The GOP is an absolute mess right now to be honest. They really have no solid political platform... the majority of their voters can only really agree upon not liking Obamacare and being tougher on illegal immigrants. That's it. The Dems are also in shambles, having lost Congress and the White House while being exposed in its campaign/election cycle corruption.

But no one is really talking about how both parties are in bad shape because everyone is fixated on Trump.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Fifthchild on December 19, 2016, 10:20:27 AM
Putin has a 37% approval rate amongst Republicans. That's shockingly high for the Dictator of America's cold war enemy, especially considering how massively anti-Russian Republicans were historically. What's changed? Russian used to be communist, now it's basically fascist. Republicans don't have a big problem with fascists. They were completely horrified by the communists, because they threatened their money. But fascists? Fascists are just good, orderly, capitalist types who have gone a trifle too far in the minds of Republicans.

I think its more that the leadership of the Republican Party is now pro-Russia/Putin and so many Republicans have decided that Putin is OK. Thats basically how people form opinions most of the time - more or less the reverse of the "rational" model that most of us actually imagine it.

Here you can see that the dramatic swing towards Putin amongst Republicans more or less coincides with Trump becoming the Presidential candidate and doesnt really have anything to do with a change in Russian politics:

https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/809069737879674888

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzpklkoWEAA8J5o.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: AP on December 19, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
Putin is to American rightwingers what Castro was to American leftwingers.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 20, 2016, 02:54:08 PM
http://forward.com/culture/357516/why-david-friedman-is-so-wrong-to-call-j-street-liberals-kapos/

This guy. nearly all these picks are bad.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 22, 2016, 02:28:10 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/donald-trump-security-force-232797


https://www.salon.com/2016/12/20/donald-trumps-goon-squad-as-president-trump-will-maintain-private-security-force-to-crack-down-on-protest/

Apparently he going to have his own private security force. of X cops

And intellegents


Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: herochat on December 22, 2016, 03:48:24 AM
Being drunk while reading Rock's posts is like being Timothy Leary on day 3 of an acid journey


Fuck you, man. I mean that
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on December 23, 2016, 08:34:14 PM
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/michael-flynn-conspiracy-pizzeria-trump-232227

Odd

To be fair despite the title it was really his son pushing the pizzgate thing..but the other stuff all Flynn
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on January 12, 2017, 12:35:51 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-to-meet-with-proponent-of-debunked-tie-between-vaccines-and-autism/2017/01/10/4a5d03c0-d752-11e6-9f9f-5cdb4b7f8dd7_story.html?utm_term=.52a6b2819f8f

keeps getting better
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Thanos6 on January 21, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
Trump's Cabinet is about one step away from this:

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/2066cc8ded7fa1f3d2bd917fc16a1b76/tumblr_oggd0clrkC1rsdeiko1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on January 21, 2017, 03:27:05 PM
That's not fair...Slujj and Greedly reformed when they found a way to make money and save the environment. :)
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Thanos6 on January 21, 2017, 03:37:17 PM
I said they were one step away.  I didn't say WHICH step. ;)
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on January 21, 2017, 06:39:43 PM
This week we found out Perry the nom for the aparemtn of energy..didnt know thar aparement handled nukes

And the head of education seme outright terrible. She seem to only give a shit about relegious education..fuck everyone else.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Dlbiininja on January 22, 2017, 12:24:59 AM
This week we found out Perry the nom for the aparemtn of energy..didnt know thar aparement handled nukes

And the head of education seme outright terrible. She seem to only give a shit about relegious education..fuck everyone else.

Perry didn't know what the department did.


And Devos.  She wasn't answering questions,  didn't know a lot of shit when they questioned her. 

This is going to be the dumbest administration fielded.  No, fucking experience. 
And Tillerson Fuck that bastard.  He was fine with fracking till it was gone to be done near where he lived. 
He can eat an aids infested, tranny hobo dick. 
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on January 22, 2017, 07:07:58 AM
This week we found out Perry the nom for the aparemtn of energy..didnt know thar aparement handled nukes

And the head of education seme outright terrible. She seem to only give a shit about relegious education..fuck everyone else.

Perry seemed to believe the DOE that he has wanted to eliminate for years... was primarily for controlling American oil interests domestic and abroad.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on January 22, 2017, 04:36:50 PM
apparnetly there a 100's of position left empty, because he waited till the last mintue and fired anyone releated to the obama admistration


Some say the plan of doing this is so they then HAVE to confirm any of trump picks because "Well we cant run the goverment and it the Democrats fault if we cant, because they wont let me guy through as quickly". It a way to force through the more crazy noms.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: g-train on January 24, 2017, 08:39:17 PM
apparnetly there a 100's of position left empty, because he waited till the last mintue and fired anyone releated to the obama admistration


Some say the plan of doing this is so they then HAVE to confirm any of trump picks because "Well we cant run the goverment and it the Democrats fault if we cant, because they wont let me guy through as quickly". It a way to force through the more crazy noms.

There's a part of me that hopes Trump is that tricky but the real part of me thinks, dudes just don't know what he's doing.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Thanos6 on January 24, 2017, 09:16:09 PM
Not really a Cabinet position, but South Carolina's Governor Nikki Haley was confirmed as UN Ambassador. This means that Lieutenant Governor Henry McMaster is now governor of SC.

Here's the funny part.

In SC, the legislature has a lot more power than the governor, to the point that the leaders of the House and Senate are often considered the most influential people in the state, not the governor.

The new governor McMaster will have to make the Senate's President Pro Tempore the new lieutenant governor. That's what the state constitution says, and the state Supreme Court has recently confirmed that. It's not a choice, the PPT must become the new lieutenant governor. But the PPT, Senator Hugh Leatherman, doesn't want to give up his powerful position for the chair-filling job of lieutenant governor.

So before McMaster was sworn in, Leatherman resigned his position as PPT. Sometime soon the Senate will elect a new PPT, who will then immediately become the new lieutenant governor, and then they'll elect another new PPT to actually keep the job, in all likelihood Leatherman again.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on January 25, 2017, 10:15:54 AM
Not really a Cabinet position, but South Carolina's Governor Nikki Haley was confirmed as UN Ambassador. This means that Lieutenant Governor Henry McMaster is now governor of SC.

Here's the funny part.

In SC, the legislature has a lot more power than the governor, to the point that the leaders of the House and Senate are often considered the most influential people in the state, not the governor.

The new governor McMaster will have to make the Senate's President Pro Tempore the new lieutenant governor. That's what the state constitution says, and the state Supreme Court has recently confirmed that. It's not a choice, the PPT must become the new lieutenant governor. But the PPT, Senator Hugh Leatherman, doesn't want to give up his powerful position for the chair-filling job of lieutenant governor.

So before McMaster was sworn in, Leatherman resigned his position as PPT. Sometime soon the Senate will elect a new PPT, who will then immediately become the new lieutenant governor, and then they'll elect another new PPT to actually keep the job, in all likelihood Leatherman again.

Yikes. Nikki Haley is pretty rough.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Thanos6 on January 25, 2017, 05:26:23 PM
Yep, I was right.  Senator Kevin Bryant became PPT Kevin Bryant became Lieutenant Governor Bryant.  Then Leatherman got his PPT position back, but not without some criticism.

Senator Shane Massey: "If you took the oath, dadgum it, you ought to do it."  (Honestly, that's a quote)

What's really funny is that this isn't the first time this has happened recently.  Back in 2012, Lieutenant Governor Ken Ard had to resign due to ethics violations, and he was replaced by PPT Glenn McConnell, who was considered the most powerful politician in the state, bar none.  Like Leatherman, he really didn't want to take the job, but he got stuck with it for a couple of years before resigning to become president of the College of Charleston.

 

Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on February 02, 2017, 06:52:17 PM
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/317302-gop-changes-rules-to-push-through-nominees-after-dem-boycott

So is with the north Corlilaina shit, is this just going to be the shit republicans going to pull for 4 years
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on February 02, 2017, 09:12:36 PM
It's dumb because it's short-sighted. What happens when the Dems get back in power and use these new lax rules? The GOP seems to think they'll be in power for decades.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: XerxesTWD on February 02, 2017, 09:16:15 PM
It's dumb because it's short-sighted. What happens when the Dems get back in power and use these new lax rules? The GOP seems to think they'll be in power for decades.
Actually, the Democrats changed the rules a few years ago. Republicans are benefitting from a few of those changes in the meantime.

The stolen Supreme Court pick is pretty ridiculous though.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Panthergod on February 02, 2017, 11:52:22 PM
Watching Obama worshipers pretend to oppose fascism is quite amusing when he installed literal NEO Nazis in a coup to fuck with Russia.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: XerxesTWD on February 03, 2017, 12:04:53 AM
Watching Obama worshipers pretend to oppose fascism is quite amusing when he installed literal NEO Nazis in a coup to fuck with Russia.
Do you even know what the word "worship" means?
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on February 03, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
It's dumb because it's short-sighted. What happens when the Dems get back in power and use these new lax rules? The GOP seems to think they'll be in power for decades.
Actually, the Democrats changed the rules a few years ago. Republicans are benefitting from a few of those changes in the meantime.

The stolen Supreme Court pick is pretty ridiculous though.

Yes, the removed the filibuster option on certain nominee picks. Which I'm fine with. Filibuster gets abused by Dems and GOP at times. People just talking about random bullshit non-sense for hours to gum up the system.

Did they also tweak the voting thresholds? If so, THAT was short-sighted on their part.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: XerxesTWD on February 03, 2017, 08:09:30 AM
Yeah, they changed some things to simple majority.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on February 03, 2017, 11:18:11 AM
Yeah, they changed some things to simple majority.

What goes around, comes around. GOP is now moving for more simple majority votes, which is just greasing the tracks on the Trump train.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on February 03, 2017, 12:46:13 PM
surprise if they going to change  the thresehold, they didnt do it on obama supreme court pick.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: g-train on February 06, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
Watching Obama worshipers pretend to oppose fascism is quite amusing when he installed literal NEO Nazis in a coup to fuck with Russia.

Really?
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on February 07, 2017, 01:07:25 PM
well devous is confirm. Cant wait for all for public school lunch to serve communion waifers.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: Master on February 07, 2017, 03:10:06 PM
But our kids will be safe from grizzly bears, so that's nice.
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on February 09, 2017, 03:15:53 AM
Well sessions went through. i got to learn to be a lot less uppitty now

All the dems voted against him accept one guy. Remember this guy
http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/08/heres-the-only-dem-to-vote-for-sessions-as-attorney-general/

meanwhile keeping my sanity listing to sassy trump. Sassy trump has more gravitas then the real one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZWZ26QZhls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhUvFL62HPk
Title: Re: Trump's horrible very bad Cabinet
Post by: therock on February 25, 2017, 09:22:59 PM
apparenlty most his cabient this dude havent even nominated
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/21/14672984/trump-transition-slow

Let it the dems that holding things up according to him. Even though the sane nominate got dems votes. Hell there is no dem that voted for none of trump picks. Hell think you got votes from both Bernie and Warren.  If he puts someone sane you might get votes.