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Title: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Hulkster on July 11, 2016, 10:25:31 AM
And he's after the Phoenix Force this time:

http://comicbook.com/2016/07/11/exclusive-marvel-announces-new-thanos-series/

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/thanos-sets-his-sights-fiery-marvel-power-from-lemire-deodato

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/thanos2016-promo-189664-eee6c.jpg)
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on July 11, 2016, 11:24:30 AM
Wait a sec... Are you telling me Thanos is trying to obtain a device/ability that will give him omnipotent power?

My God, I'm on the edge of my seat here.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Hulkster on July 11, 2016, 11:36:08 AM
Does Lemire know Starlin will retcon everything he does as soon as he takes over the book? (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/laughing-msn-messenger-smiley-emoticon.gif)

I guess we should just establish in our minds that if it's not written by Starlin, it's a clone.  ;)

Wait a sec... Are you telling me Thanos is trying to obtain a device/ability that will give him omnipotent power?

My God, I'm on the edge of my seat here.

It's interesting that Darkseid seeks to control the Phoenix Force decades before Thanos does. 

I wonder if it bother's Doom fans that they are referring to Thanos as Marvel's Darth Vader?
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: INDRA THUNDERER on July 11, 2016, 11:55:58 AM
Wait a sec... Are you telling me Thanos is trying to obtain a device/ability that will give him omnipotent power?

My God, I'm on the edge of my seat here.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: g-train on July 11, 2016, 08:26:19 PM
Wait a sec... Are you telling me Thanos is trying to obtain a device/ability that will give him omnipotent power?

My God, I'm on the edge of my seat here.

You know; a twist might be if Thanos had decided to destroy all omnipotent power(s) and devices.......
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on July 11, 2016, 08:59:35 PM
I wonder if it bother's Doom fans that they are referring to Thanos as Marvel's Darth Vader?

Vader is trash compared to Doom, so it's an appropriate analogy.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Hulkster on July 11, 2016, 09:10:31 PM
I wonder if it bother's Doom fans that they are referring to Thanos as Marvel's Darth Vader?

Vader is trash compared to Doom, so it's an appropriate analogy.

Yea but he is comparing Vader's status in the SWU to Thanos status I'm the MU and states that he views Thanos as the alpha villain of Marvel as Vader is to Star Wars.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Dlbiininja on July 11, 2016, 09:43:31 PM
 :'( :'( :'(

Dude, you don't even need Death to be a part of a fucking Thanos story.  For the most part his last solo series did away with her.  And considering his intellect and other capabilities and resources he's quite capable of fucking shit up without the Phoenix force or any other Object of WTF!!!  Man them just having him pine over Death for the last 40-50 years is fucking trash and means that they can't come up with better ideas for him.  I really hope that's not the course this story is going to go.


Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Dalek on July 11, 2016, 11:23:28 PM
I wonder if Warlock will show up in this? I have no idea what he is up to these days but he shows up in most Thanos stuff and would kind of fit here. Considering he was supposed to become the Magnus/champion of life and the PF is supposed to be the source of all future life.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: JookDukem on July 12, 2016, 12:15:44 AM
Wouldn't it be legit if Thanos didn't suck dick as a character though?

Yeah man. That'd be really cool.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Red Exodus on July 12, 2016, 03:46:48 AM
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Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Mightily Oats on July 12, 2016, 06:32:42 AM
Wait a sec... Are you telling me Thanos is trying to obtain a device/ability that will give him omnipotent power?

My God, I'm on the edge of my seat here.
Yeah, what the fuck.

Two guesses?

He won't be able to control it, in the end, and lose his omnipotence and then learn a valuable lesson by the end of it.

And then, when they want to use Thanos again in the next movie after his big movie, they'll let Starlin write another Thanos story and Thanos will be retconned into thinking the Phoenix Force was beneath him, and he let it go willingly, while thinking it had taught him something.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Insane Titan on July 12, 2016, 09:26:13 AM
Haha at the crying faggots.

The series ain't even started and your bitching FF's.

Why is everyone so scared?
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on July 12, 2016, 10:07:28 AM
Haha at the crying faggots.

The series ain't even started and your bitching FF's.

Why is everyone so scared?

They're afraid that with another Thanos series starting, you're going to post more often.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Insane Titan on July 12, 2016, 10:09:49 AM
Haha at the crying faggots.

The series ain't even started and your bitching FF's.

Why is everyone so scared?

They're afraid that with another Thanos series starting, you're going to post more often.
lol that's pretty good for you, put your dummy back in now.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Necro on July 25, 2016, 09:39:44 AM
And he's after the Phoenix Force this time:

http://comicbook.com/2016/07/11/exclusive-marvel-announces-new-thanos-series/

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/thanos-sets-his-sights-fiery-marvel-power-from-lemire-deodato

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/thanos2016-promo-189664-eee6c.jpg)

I do like the references to the current Darth Vader book, as well as that he read Giffen's take on Thanos.
That makes me a little bit optimistic.

If they nail the proper Thanos, and give him the right motivations and everything it could be fun.
I will assume that the Phoenix Force is a vehicle to get the story going, not really the main focus of it though (I hope).
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Hulkster on July 25, 2016, 12:39:02 PM
And he's after the Phoenix Force this time:

http://comicbook.com/2016/07/11/exclusive-marvel-announces-new-thanos-series/

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/thanos-sets-his-sights-fiery-marvel-power-from-lemire-deodato

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/thanos2016-promo-189664-eee6c.jpg)

I do like the references to the current Darth Vader book, as well as that he read Giffen's take on Thanos.
That makes me a little bit optimistic.

If they nail the proper Thanos, and give him the right motivations and everything it could be fun.
I will assume that the Phoenix Force is a vehicle to get the story going, not really the main focus of it though (I hope).

Yea, the reference to Giffen's run was good to read.  Giffen's take on Thanos is one of the best.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: TURBODERP on August 22, 2016, 06:26:22 PM
And he's after the Phoenix Force this time:

http://comicbook.com/2016/07/11/exclusive-marvel-announces-new-thanos-series/

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/thanos-sets-his-sights-fiery-marvel-power-from-lemire-deodato

(http://www.comicbookresources.com/imgsrv/imglib/0/0/1/thanos2016-promo-189664-eee6c.jpg)

I do like the references to the current Darth Vader book, as well as that he read Giffen's take on Thanos.
That makes me a little bit optimistic.

If they nail the proper Thanos, and give him the right motivations and everything it could be fun.
I will assume that the Phoenix Force is a vehicle to get the story going, not really the main focus of it though (I hope).

Yea, the reference to Giffen's run was good to read.  Giffen's take on Thanos is one of the best.

He did the Samaritan run right? That was the one of the, if not the greatest Thanos depiction IMO. The Starlord/Gladiator bit, followed by the Maker, the Fallen One, and Annihilation, was a great Thanos arc. He was a true neutral/vague anti-hero (in the sense that "hey the universe dying sucks cuz (a) I'm in it and (b) I don't get to see the cool things happen in it), and written really well in a way that actually showed CHARACTER GROWTH.

As opposed to Bendis/Hickman/etc. writing the current Thanos as once again worshipping Death because that storyline hasn't been told enough over 50 years (and told better back then too, good god).
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Necro on August 23, 2016, 04:47:34 AM
Pretty much.
Stalin build a nice base for Thanos up until Infinity Gauntlet, but Giffen was the guy who developed him into an actual person.

His Thanos was the best version I've read. Intelligent, capable, with a sardonic touch. He was selfish, but not insane, and he had a genuine curiosity about shit.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on August 23, 2016, 08:06:06 AM
Thanos is the kind of character who should never experience "growth" or get anywhere near the line that separates villain from anti-hero, kind of like the Red Skull. He's an irredeemable, straight-up mass murdering psychopath and that's fine, comic books need characters like that. Any attempt to change him from that rings hollow to me.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Necro on August 23, 2016, 08:30:13 AM
Thanos is the kind of character who should never experience "growth" or get anywhere near the line that separates villain from anti-hero, kind of like the Red Skull. He's an irredeemable, straight-up mass murdering psychopath and that's fine, comic books need characters like that. Any attempt to change him from that rings hollow to me.

I don't know. This Thanos was nowhere close to being a hero.
He actively aided a creature bent on mass destruction (Annihilus), captured one of the primal forces of the Universe (Galactus and Silver Surfer), starved them of power and used them as weapons, then lobotomised a childlike Beyonder (Maker), because it was more convenient.

I don't think any of these actions come even close to making him an anti-hero.
It was simply that what "good" he did, came out as a side effect of his other actions.
I mean, he intended to make up for his former craziness in wanting to wipe out the universe, but the fucker literally walked over bodies to do it.

I think that is why this character growth worked for Giffen Thanos.
He was still the scariest motherfucker in the MU.

Incidentally, it's also why Vertigo's Lucifer worked so well.
They kept his personality and behaviour, and worked with that.
He never turned into a hero either, but continued to be selfish, egocentric, and monstrously focused on his goals, with lots of collateral (i.e. innocents) dying as a side-effect.

Similar to Giffen Thanos, who, while abandoning his need to destroy/rule the universe for Death, still remained the same person.

Actually, I'd argue the best "villains" are those with growth.
Dr.Doom for example is now so much better than he was 50 years ago.
The same can be said for Magneto in how he was as he started out, and how he got developed under Claremont and others.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on August 23, 2016, 10:58:25 AM
Actually, I'd argue the best "villains" are those with growth.
Dr.Doom for example is now so much better than he was 50 years ago.
The same can be said for Magneto in how he was as he started out, and how he got developed under Claremont and others.

I agree, but Thanos isn't one of those characters who benefit from growth. He has no noble characteristics or redeemable qualities. He's a straight-up evil motherfucker, like the Red Skull.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Insane Titan on August 23, 2016, 11:26:27 AM
Actually, I'd argue the best "villains" are those with growth.
Dr.Doom for example is now so much better than he was 50 years ago.
The same can be said for Magneto in how he was as he started out, and how he got developed under Claremont and others.

I agree, but Thanos isn't one of those characters who benefit from growth. He has no noble characteristics or redeemable qualities. He's a straight-up evil motherfucker, like the Red Skull.
i agree to a extent about "growth" through heroic acts, but being evil is about being self serving. I have no problem with him doing stuff that looks heroic, only if it's for his benefit and not just saving ppl and shit like what Starlin did in his Thanos run before Giffen took over.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: g-train on August 24, 2016, 08:52:43 PM
Actually, I'd argue the best "villains" are those with growth.
Dr.Doom for example is now so much better than he was 50 years ago.
The same can be said for Magneto in how he was as he started out, and how he got developed under Claremont and others.

I agree, but Thanos isn't one of those characters who benefit from growth. He has no noble characteristics or redeemable qualities. He's a straight-up evil motherfucker, like the Red Skull.

Eh; Thanos screws himself out of power because he knows he's not worthy of it.  He's got a little more wiggle room there than The Red Skull.  But even the Red Skull has fantastically "mild"/tiny specks of humanity.  Stopped himself at the last second from killing his daughter because she wasn't a boy and than went on to use her in his various plans to kill and conquer.

Thanos's growth was more in the sense that he grew as a person and stopped being obsessed with a chick who didn't dig him in return more so than "becoming a good person".  Got some self-respect basically.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on June 20, 2017, 06:30:31 PM
Anyone keeping up with this series? I was wrong, it's pretty fucking groundbreaking.

Peep this. Thanos is dying, son. And he's losing all his power. But that's not good enough for his son, Thane, who wants to kill the old man himself. So Thane assembles a team of Starfox, Nebula and Tryco the Champion. His master plan? Get [insert cosmic MacGuffin] because even though Thanos is at death's door, a little more power can't hurt right? God damn, like father, like son.

Except... Holy shit! Thane steals [insert cosmic MacGuffin] and becomes even MORE of a threat than Thanos! He's omnipotent. And evil. I never saw that coming.

Looks pretty bleak for Starfox and company. They're sunk. But they decide to flip the script and team up with... Thanos! Fucking Thanos! Unbelievable! Can you say "face turn"?

But remember how I said that Thanos is about to die, and is powerless? And how Thane is now omnipotent? Seems pretty hopeless, old chums.  But sure enough, Thanos has a plan. He's going to... steal another [insert cosmic MacGuffin] and make himself more powerful than ever! A [insert cosmic MacGuffin] that no one's ever heard of, but conveniently grants unlimited power. Fucking hell. Thanos on a MacGuffin hunt. He truly is the master planner.

I really feel that this series is stretching the definition of what we call "comic books" and is taking Thanos is a completely new direction.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Propeus The Fallen on June 22, 2017, 02:36:08 AM
Actually, I'd argue the best "villains" are those with growth.
Dr.Doom for example is now so much better than he was 50 years ago.
The same can be said for Magneto in how he was as he started out, and how he got developed under Claremont and others.

I agree, but Thanos isn't one of those characters who benefit from growth. He has no noble characteristics or redeemable qualities. He's a straight-up evil motherfucker, like the Red Skull.

I disagree.

The dude is capable of love. I mean, yeah, he loves Death, but everything he did for a long time was for the woman he loved. The real reason he wanted the Infinity Gauntlet was to be worthy enough for her and make her happy.

He does show respect to worthy opponents. Heck, I liked in Thanos Quest when he meets the Gardner he appreciates his garden and tries to get the gem without killing him. He even shows remorse later about it.

I think just that later on Thanos was written as the boring "Me destroy everything!"

Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Red Exodus on June 22, 2017, 04:06:02 AM
Personally I would've preferred they left him dead after Annihilation.

In the end, he got exactly what he wanted. We see him standing there
happily with Death by his side.

It was the perfect time to retire the character at that point. But as usual,
we can't have nice things.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: Insane Titan on June 22, 2017, 05:52:30 PM
Lol @MTL the cunty little crying faggot.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: SmeaGog on June 22, 2017, 06:19:14 PM
Using his words, and whatnot, like a cuck.

Thanos would never do that.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: SmeaGog on June 22, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
Use his words like an adult, I mean. Obviously he's always been a cuck.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: JookDukem on June 23, 2017, 03:10:29 AM
Actually, I'd argue the best "villains" are those with growth.
Dr.Doom for example is now so much better than he was 50 years ago.
The same can be said for Magneto in how he was as he started out, and how he got developed under Claremont and others.

I agree, but Thanos isn't one of those characters who benefit from growth. He has no noble characteristics or redeemable qualities. He's a straight-up evil motherfucker, like the Red Skull.

I disagree.

The dude is capable of love. I mean, yeah, he loves Death, but everything he did for a long time was for the woman he loved. The real reason he wanted the Infinity Gauntlet was to be worthy enough for her and make her happy.

He does show respect to worthy opponents. Heck, I liked in Thanos Quest when he meets the Gardner he appreciates his garden and tries to get the gem without killing him. He even shows remorse later about it.

I think just that later on Thanos was written as the boring "Me destroy everything!"

You clearly dont understand psychopathy or inherent disregard for sentient life.

Thanos is a monster.

I love me some MTL, but his flip flopping is some faggot ass shit.

Sure, you can like the direction the character is heading, that's your perogotive.

However, it's still not true to the character. Thanos was my nigga when I actually followed comics. I know the character well.

This shit you're on about regarding love as a concept, albeit with death as a focus, does not invalidate the core character traits Thanos has had for the vast majoority of his career.

He's utterly and completely insane. A piece of shit, hyper intelligent murderer to the nth degree. Period.

The fact that the man is quite literally in love with death invalidates essentially everything you posted.

Your post is hilarious.

Understand basic psychology brother. Please.

The man writing this new Thanos doesn't understand a character who cares nothing about annhilating half of the sentient universe.

You can try to find "deeper" meaing in shit all you want but the truth is that comics are shallow short storiez built in and treated in a similar fashion to soap operas/young and the restless type shit.

But do you my nigga. Always.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: JookDukem on June 23, 2017, 03:14:33 AM
Thanos would love the chaos gods from WH40k far more than he would ever love Death from Marvel.
Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: MTL76 on June 23, 2017, 11:02:20 AM
mfw Jook doesn't get the sarcasm behind my last post.

I agree with your assessment of Thanos, though. Keep him evil. What's next, Slaanesh realizing the error of his ways and making peace with the Eldar?

Title: Re: Thanos Gets Another Ongoing Series
Post by: TURBODERP on June 23, 2017, 05:27:49 PM
Anyone keeping up with this series? I was wrong, it's pretty fucking groundbreaking.

Peep this. Thanos is dying, son. And he's losing all his power. But that's not good enough for his son, Thane, who wants to kill the old man himself. So Thane assembles a team of Starfox, Nebula and Tryco the Champion. His master plan? Get [insert cosmic MacGuffin] because even though Thanos is at death's door, a little more power can't hurt right? God damn, like father, like son.

Except... Holy shit! Thane steals [insert cosmic MacGuffin] and becomes even MORE of a threat than Thanos! He's omnipotent. And evil. I never saw that coming.

Looks pretty bleak for Starfox and company. They're sunk. But they decide to flip the script and team up with... Thanos! Fucking Thanos! Unbelievable! Can you say "face turn"?

But remember how I said that Thanos is about to die, and is powerless? And how Thane is now omnipotent? Seems pretty hopeless, old chums.  But sure enough, Thanos has a plan. He's going to... steal another [insert cosmic MacGuffin] and make himself more powerful than ever! A [insert cosmic MacGuffin] that no one's ever heard of, but conveniently grants unlimited power. Fucking hell. Thanos on a MacGuffin hunt. He truly is the master planner.

I really feel that this series is stretching the definition of what we call "comic books" and is taking Thanos is a completely new direction.

Giffen was the last good thing to happen to Thanos. Everything since Annihilation/Thanos Imperative (maybe) has been awful.