well looks like paul ryan going to be Mitt Romney running mate

[IamtheRock3]

least that what the news been saying

Well its bold at least

Going full Ayn Rand hu.

Oh well

[Bender]

Nothing like the person who was the face of the intransigent right in Congress from when it was at its most reviled to get people to like Romney.

It seems like the biggest thing keeping Romney from the presidency is his absolutely terrible judgement.

[Propeus The Fallen]

And he's a horrible politician, his horrible campain, his inablity to relate one iota to the middle class, not an elogant speaker, can't sing, can't debate, can't take credit for the one thing he did really well for the state he governed, this douchebag as his VP pick, Bain, him hiding his taxes, when his taxes come out and we see all the loopholes he's used...
Seriously, Sarah Palin may be and idiot...but at at least McCain picked a VP who had a soul.

[Panthergod]

Ballsy, but VERY stupid. Ryan is absolutely correct in his effective knowledge of basic mathematics and actually being a guy who actually advances the American philosophy of government and not soft-communism, but he's WAY to corny and sounds like Burt fucking Ward, instead of being able to speak emotionally and persuasively to people(especially selfish asshole Baby Boomer generation who got us into this mess) who aren't smart enough enough to comprehend or rational enough to care the fact that nothing will change for current seniors but only for young people in order to prevent America from economic collapse. Ryan's another corny rich white boy who can't relate emotionally.

[Panthergod]

Romney will almost certainly lose now, and the only way he doesn't is if he stops this bullshit hands off approach and pulls Barack Obama's card on everything he's ever done on the record on the merits, mercilessly.

[Panthergod]

A garbage truck?


REALLY?

[Propeus The Fallen]

My thoughts as listening and watching.

Yes, the failed leadership that has seen the death of our greatest enemy...

Darn. Who's your family! I can't tell!! It's a sea of white out there, you twit!!

Anyway, Romney's lost Florida thanks to Ryan wanting to gut social security and make turn medicare into vouchers. He needed Florida and he's not going to get it now.  And...

Now that I think about it has Romney told us anything specific about what he plans on doing for this country?

Ryan, you're nose stuck up...er, stopped up?

Um, what exactly about Obama's leadership has failed? I mean, if we're going to go Mr. Christian on Captain Bligh..

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!

I can think of better people prepared...principals? You don't watch the Daily Show, fella.

So far on the mintority crowd count: One asian woman.

WHAT? When did he pass every item in his first two years?! I thought his "If someone falls in a well, we should save them" Didn't pass the senate?

Yeah, I know teachers in Wisconsion are struggling to make ends meet.

A record of failure? Oh crap! ZOMBIE BIN LADDEN. RYAN'S RIGHT.

Yeah, you're all about screwing the current aging generation.

Um, am I the only one find work good now? I know my dad's working over...

Well, if he says things suck for everyone!

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BWWAAHHHAA Yeah, yeah, Urban and rural areas, yeah, I see you farming.

Am I the only one looking at this and thinking: Obama's going to crush Romney even worse.

Y'know what this speech needs at the end. Mitt slippping and making another bad joke just like the beginning.

Yep. Right steps, right track. 65 wait till 67 for the medicare voucher train!

If you made a C- on Economics, I'd be suprised.

Those are the only three to name.

The Olympics is a failing enterprise?

He also made Pre-Obamacare in Mass--oh, can't mention that.

Well, intergity if you don't count screwing over countless business, using loopholes to keep his money.

Or you can just lie and slander the other guy to get ahead.

You sound resentful. But the Koch brothers look recentful when a hobo has a penny in his pocket.

No specifics except Obama bad.

America is an idea. An idea is a noun! America is a noun. ...I think.

God loves us. Sorry other countries. We need it all.

Ah, we're at the portion where government is bad now, folks.

Get rid of the IRS!!! Wait, I can go with that one.

Yeah, how can we be free and secure when we're the land of opportunity?

Wave them flags!!

...Take responsiblity. Um, arent' you blaming Big Gov and Obama.

Not replace founding principles. SHHOOO. Worried for a second.

Yeah, choice. Team Romney Hood vs Team Obama and crazy white guy.

What are these solutions that need leadership.

The truth. Yeah, and Romeny will show his tax papers willingly.

Me too. I'll like making fun of you.

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Wait. That's it?

Cue Born Free as the ocean of white waves red, white and blue.

Okay minority count: Yeah, the asian lady.

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That's actually better than I thought.

[Rufio]

Ballsy, but VERY stupid. Ryan is absolutely correct in his effective knowledge of basic mathematics

 Yes, he's very good at making the cost of his increased tax rate and safety net cuts on the middle class directly proportionate to the cost of his effective tax rate cuts on the rich.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/middle-class-would-face-higher-taxes-under-republican-plan/2012/06/19/gJQAD4auoV_story.html

 He would not, of course, reduce debt. Debt would increase from its current level under his plan, even though the justification for the budget is the false claim that debt is the economy's big immediate problem.

[Bender]

I feel like the right, and Panthergod, have forgotten that the vision for America is very specifically not and single idea, and is implicitly the idea that different ideas should be able to coexist.

Also, Panthergod, you realize that Ryan was in congress through 5 of the Bush years and was a consistent vote for Bush. So are those Bush extensions of the debt ceiling and deficit spending wrong too and Ryan was wrong to support Bush? OR did he suddenly start finding those thing unacceptable and become willing to divebomb the economy when we were already hurting because a democrat was in office, and shouldn't we be mad that he did inflict that damage on the country for political reasons?

If I'm figuring it out right, Ryan voted to increase the debt ceiling with no plan  real offered to bring down the deficeit 2 times while the GOP ran all three branches of government.

[Bender]

Have I mentioned that Romney picking Ryan has been my favorite choice of the campaign season? 

[Propeus The Fallen]

 
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/79622.html?hp=t2_7

Is Romney's entire plan "Duh, Obama's bad. He's a bad leader. I gots good ideas. Ideas that I ain't telling. Vote Romney Nov 6."

He's going to have to give details.

[Mediocre Jack]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/paul-ryan-bills_n_1769816.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

[Mediocre Jack]

Ballsy, but VERY stupid. Ryan is absolutely correct in his effective knowledge of basic mathematics and actually being a guy who actually advances the American philosophy of government and not soft-communism, but he's WAY to corny and sounds like Burt fucking Ward, instead of being able to speak emotionally and persuasively to people(especially selfish asshole Baby Boomer generation who got us into this mess) who aren't smart enough enough to comprehend or rational enough to care the fact that nothing will change for current seniors but only for young people in order to prevent America from economic collapse. Ryan's another corny rich white boy who can't relate emotionally.

The problem with Ryan is that he appeals to the base and alienates the base at the same time.

[Propeus The Fallen]

Well, looks like his first polls as VP are:

* 2012: Paul Ryan - 39% excellent or pretty good / 42% fair or poor
* 2008: Sarah Palin - 46% excellent or pretty good / 37% fair or poor
* 2008: Joe Biden - 47% excellent or pretty good / 33% fair or poor
* 2004: John Edwards - 64% excellent or pretty good / 28% fair or poor
* 2000: Dick Cheney - 55% excellent or pretty good / 34% fair or poor
* 2000: Joe Lieberman - 53% excellent or pretty good / 28% fair or poor
 

Last person with worse in the last twelve years is Dan Quayle.

Plus...why do it on Sunday? The Olympics are still on. Plus the main one that all americans are interested in--USA vs Spain basketball was on and by the afternoon it was over for the Ryan buzz.

And two bills...well, it's something.
 

[IamtheRock3]

Promblem with Paul is we know to much about him

Those who LIKE his polices..probally voting for Romney

But he wont get the middle...cause Obama simply not as much to the left as Ryan is to the right

It may actully fire up Obama base..while Romney base was pretty fired up already


One thing to watch out for

he is a VERY good debater and has some charm. You may not like his ideas but he very good at arguing

But so is Biden. For all his gaffs..Biden pretty good at debating.


And it really hard to back a bill that lower taxes for the rich but raises it for the middle class

[Master]

The VP debates might actually be interesting this year. The last ones were Biden beating the shit outta Palin and Cheney making Edwards look like a sweaty moron.

[Bender]

I would really like to see an Obama Ryan debate. I feel like that's the real axis this election sits on.

Actually one of the things I like in the meta sense about the Ryan pick is it actually connects the race to who the GOP is now, I think that's necessary because while the election is about a single office, we need to talk about the larger picture and Ryan helps connect that larger picture to the presidential election.

[Pills]

boring. Romeny should have gone after Palin or Michelle Bachman

[Tony XerxēsTWD Stark]

I love how Paul Ryan has tried to claim President Obama is solely responsible for the rapid rise of partisanship in the United States.

[Mediocre Jack]

It really ramped up when the Republicans impeached Clinton and then the 2000 election.

[Tony XerxēsTWD Stark]

It really ramped up when the Republicans impeached Clinton and then the 2000 election.

He said this is by far the most partisan he's ever seen American politics after serving under 3 different administrations, and it's Obama's fault.

[Clock]

http://news.yahoo.com/presented-letters-ryan-admits-requesting-stimulus-cash-234025910--abc-news-politics.html

After repeated denials, Paul Ryan has admitted he requested stimulus cash even after sharply criticizing the program.

As recently as Wednesday in Ohio, Mitt Romney's running mate told ABC's Cincinnati affiliate, WCPO, he did not.

"I never asked for stimulus," Ryan said. "I don't recall… so I really can't comment on it. I opposed the stimulus because it doesn't work, it didn't work."

Two years ago, during an interview on WBZ's NewsRadio he was asked by a caller if he "accepted any money" into his district. Ryan said he did not.

"I'm not one [of those] people who votes for something then writes to the government to ask them to send us money. I did not request any stimulus money," the congressman answered.

But as we've now learned, Ryan did write letters. He did request stimulus funds.

"The Olympics may be over but Paul Ryan could have gotten a gold medal in hypocrisy," a senior administration official told ABC's Jake Tapper. "As someone who spends all day every day railing against government spending, but then secretly seeks millions in funds for pet projects, he is as Washington as it gets."

In 2009, Ryan wrote to Energy Secretary Steven Chu and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis asking for stimulus money to cover costs on two energy conservation projects in his home state of Wisconsin. In the letter, Ryan said the funds would help create jobs and reduce "energy consumption" in the state. At least one of the companies received the requested cash.

The letters were first obtained by The Wall Street Journal through the Freedom of Information Act back in early 2010. The Boston Globe turned them up for the first time during this campaign season Wednesday. At that point, a Ryan aide referred ABC News back to what a Ryan spokesman said when the letters first went public.

"If Congressman Ryan is asked to help a Wisconsin entity applying for existing Federal grant funds, he does not believe flawed policy should get in the way of doing his job and providing a legitimate constituent service to his employers," the spokesman told the Milwaukee (Wisc.) Journal Sentinel.

Thursday, Ryan responded to the questions himself.

"After having these letters called to my attention I checked into them, and they were treated as constituent service requests in the same way matters involving Social Security or Veterans Affairs are handled," Ryan said in a statement. "This is why I didn't recall the letters earlier. But they should have been handled differently, and I take responsibility for that.

"Regardless, it's clear that the Obama stimulus did nothing to stimulate the economy, and now the President is asking to do it all over again."

[IamtheRock3]

I love how Paul Ryan has tried to claim President Obama is solely responsible for the rapid rise of partisanship in the United States.

Has there ever been an election where they didnt say...THIS THE MOST MEANIE ELECTION...EVARRRRRRRR

[Tony XerxēsTWD Stark]

Has there ever been an election where they didnt say...THIS THE MOST MEANIE ELECTION...EVARRRRRRRR

That's usually pundits, not candidates.

[IamtheRock3]

I honestly think there not use to Dems swinging back so hard

[Bender]

yeah, I'm kind of amused by that as well. Last election cycle the GOP said Obama was a secret Muslim with a Kenyan value system totally at odds with the western concept of democracy. That he wasn't born in the US and that the Fist bump he was seen sharing with his wife was a sign of their terrorist sympathies.

But this election cycle guys, this is getting just mean, someone needs to reel the President in.

[IamtheRock3]

yeah, I'm kind of amused by that as well. Last election cycle the GOP said Obama was a secret Muslim with a Kenyan value system totally at odds with the western concept of democracy. That he wasn't born in the US and that the Fist bump he was seen sharing with his wife was a sign of their terrorist sympathies.

But this election cycle guys, this is getting just mean, someone needs to reel the President in.

Fuck even now there a commerical of Navy Seals agains Obama...a group of navy seals they around up..bitching about Obama taking to much credit. When Obama always gave the seals props

And worst let..if that raid went to shit he would get a 100 percent of the blame by republicans

and there also a commericals talking about Obama WAR ON RELEGION

Also in a recent speech Romeny refered to Obama as our corrupt president..they said he meant to say current..but that sounds like bullshit

so you fuck them for bitching about devisive politics

[Panthergod]

yeah, I'm kind of amused by that as well. Last election cycle the GOP said Obama was a secret Muslim with a Kenyan value system totally at odds with the western concept of democracy.

Well, that's a pretty flagrant lie.

Communism isn't  a Kenyan value system.

That he wasn't born in the US and that the Fist bump he was seen sharing with his wife was a sign of their terrorist sympathies.

But this election cycle guys, this is getting just mean, someone needs to reel the President in.

When did a modern Republican presidential candidate center an entire political identity around being uniquely honest, ethical and unifying like Obama did?

[Bender]

"I'm a unifier, not a divider"   or have we already forgotten "compassionate conservatism"

Also, Nixon.

[Propeus The Fallen]

Am I the only one waiting until the first debate to really pay attention to what anyone says about swing states on CNN or the other news network.

"Gee, Ryan is from Wisconsin so we'll flip that into undecided."

"Oh, this is bright blue before but now dark blue..."

"Red to tan"

Why not talk about how the republicans are trying really, really hard to cheat. I mean, they're not even trying to hide how unfair they're making voting this time in Ohio and Penn.

[Bender]

What got caught in Ohio got reversed, and it doesn't look like it'll be enough to swing PA, but that's 2 states.

[Propeus The Fallen]

Yeah, I seriously doubt Ohio or Penn were going to swing. I don't think Wisconsin either because Walker is really making everyone mad. I think Arizona could be interesting with the high hispanic population and Gov Brewer who seems to be insane.

[Bender]

Man oh man I wish she had run in the primaries.

[Propeus The Fallen]

I wish Trump had run, but Obama gave him the owning of all time. I mean, it was the single greatest moments of sweet revenge I've seen. It had everything, even cutting the guy's show off to tell how he got Bin Ladden.

Any guess what that jerk's gonna do at the Republican Convention. I'm guessing donating a kajillion dollars or proof that Obama isn't an American.

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please be the later.