Who's Stronger, Faster, and more durable? Wonder Woman or Martian Manhunter?

[MPagar]

Why do we need to ask Gail?  This is from a few pages later in the same issue:

For the record, this is also the second story where Gail emphasized her need to breath.

[fangirl101]

For the record, this is also the second story where Gail emphasized her need to breath.

For the record,who the fuck cares? She's talking about 30 seconds under the water. We've already seen WW under water for hours. We've moved on loser. We already know that the different writers view her breathing inconsistently. Does Superman need to breathe?

[Jonathanos]

For the record, this is also the second story where Gail emphasized her need to breath.

True, but what makes this instance particularly good is that it's from one of the issues fangirl cited in support of Wonder Woman not needing to "breath".

[Commander]

That's ownage in its purest form. Lol!

[fangirl101]

True, but what makes this instance particularly good is that it's from one of the issues fangirl cited in support of Wonder Woman not needing to "breath".

Hmm. WW talks about Genocide needing to breathe. And letting the water drown her. Now, I don't know about you but, I recall WW herself has been under water for hours. Soooooooooooo, Her saying she should let Genocide drown in a few seconds, doesn't sound like she would her self drown in a few seconds. Now tell me, Does Superman need to breathe.

[Jonathanos]

Hmm. WW talks about Genocide needing to breathe. And letting the water drown her. Now, I don't know about you but, WW herself has been under water for hours. Soooooooooooo, Her saying she should let Genocide drown in a few seconds, doesn't sound like she would her self drown in a few seconds. Now tell me, Does Superman need to breathe.

Wonder Woman didn't give a time frame in which Genocide would drown.

I don't know the context of the scan of Wonder Woman being in the water for hours, and I certainly won't take your word for it when you've posted everything from brief excursions into outer space to talking inside the Watchtower as references where Wonder Woman didn't need to breathe.

Your question about Superman has nothing to do with anything I've said.

[fangirl101]

Wonder Woman didn't give a time frame in which Genocide would drown.

I don't know the context of the scan of Wonder Woman being in the water for hours, and I certainly won't take your word for it when you've posted everything from brief excursions into outer space to talking inside the Watchtower as references where Wonder Woman didn't need to breathe.

Your question about Superman has nothing to do with anything I've said.

Just answer my question. Does Superman need to breathe? You see, there is a method to the madness. And refusal to answer the question, is very telling, that you might know where I"m headed. WW said that they all needed to breathe. Well shit, Martian Manhunter Breathes, Does he need a helmet in space?

[Jonathanos]

Just answer my question. Does Superman need to breathe? You see, there is a method to the madness. And refusal to answer the question, is very telling, that you might know where I"m headed. WW said that they all needed to breathe. Well shit, Martian Manhunter Breathes, Does he need a helmet in space?

Your question has nothing to do with what I've said.  My first post said things like this were often inconsistent.
 
All I'm taking issue with is how horrible you are at supporting your stances.  It's a constant thing in thread after thread.  You post images that are completely irrelevant or leave out pertinent information, meaning you're either ignorant of the context yourself or you're deliberately trying to deceive people.

[fangirl101]

Your question has nothing to do with what I've said.  My first post said things like this were often inconsistent.
 
All I'm taking issue with is how horrible you are at supporting your stances.  It's a constant thing in thread after thread.  You post images that are completely irrelevant or leave out pertinent information, meaning you're either ignorant of the context yourself or you're deliberately trying to deceive people.

Says the man who posted WW bleeding to death after being shot, and failed to post the pages and pages of her fighting being shot, AND then being kicked in the same spot. Oh and I bet you didn't know that her bracers magnify the dmg and energyout put of what ever hits them.

[Jonathanos]

Says the man who posted WW bleeding to death after being shot, and failed to post the pages and pages of her fighting being shot, AND then being kicked in the same spot. Oh and I bet you didn't know that her bracers magnify the dmg and energyout put of what ever hits them.

She was bleeding to death because of the hole in her gut, not because she was kicked.

And surely you aren't claiming the bullet hit the vambraces...

[fangirl101]

She was bleeding to death because of the hole in her gut, not because she was kicked.

And surely you aren't claiming the bullet hit the vambraces...

Sorry. Thought she's deflected into herself. But I do have the scans. She was NOT bleeding to death until AFTER Deva kicked her in the injured area. She even sustains other injuries after being shot and still fights. It's not until AFTER the Kick that she's down. The scan even gives a crack, denoting Deva breaking something in that area.

[The Ravager]

Diana is such a fragile flower for a top tier. 

[fangirl101]

Diana is such a fragile flower for a top tier. 

This, I think was pre-powerup.

[Jonathanos]

Sorry. Thought she's deflected into herself. But I do have the scans. She was NOT bleeding to death until AFTER Deva kicked her in the injured area. She even sustains other injuries after being shot and still fights. It's not until AFTER the Kick that she's down. The scan even gives a crack, denoting Deva breaking something in that area.

Uh-huh.  There's a sound effect when one character hits the other just as there is every other time...  There is no mention of any broken bones.  When talking about the injuries in the next issue, it's only about the bullet and the bleeding.

I mean, good grief, do you believe someone bleeds to death immediately?

[fangirl101]

Uh-huh.  There's a sound effect when one character hits the other just as there is every other time...  There is no mention of any broken bones.  When talking about the injuries in the next issue, it's only about the bullet and the bleeding.

I mean, good grief, do you believe someone bleeds to death immediately?

Good grief, you believe that she was bleeding to death and kicking Deva's ass? Fail.

[Jonathanos]

Good grief, you believe that she was bleeding to death and kicking Deva's ass? Fail.

No, I believe she was bleeding to death and being manipulated by Deva into using her lasso.  Because that's exactly what happened.

Do you even read the scans that you post?

[fangirl101]

No, I believe she was bleeding to death and being manipulated by Deva into using her lasso.  Because that's exactly what happened.

Do you even read the scans that you post?

No. She wasn't bleeding to death until AFTER the attacks from Deva. The first attack, she takes, and then she kicks Deva's ass. Deva says, I knew you wouldn't hit a child. Then she kicks Diana right where the bullet went. Fade to Diana doubling over in pain. It was the COMBINATION of events, on a WEAKER Diana, that lead to her nearly bleeding to death.

[Tony XerxēsTWD Stark]

There is blood flowing heavily from her ribs in the same scan where she gets shot.
And the one after that. And the one where she gets kicked.

[fangirl101]

There is blood flowing heavily from her ribs in the same scan where she gets shot.
And the one after that. And the one where she gets kicked.

Was it? She sure as hell didn't actually fall down, from the pain, until Deva kicked her where she was shot. As if it matters. Weaker WW. invalid.

[Tony XerxēsTWD Stark]

Was it?

Yes. You posted the scans. They're clear as day. Blood flowing out of the wound, over her hand and to the ground.

She sure as hell didn't actually fall down, from the pain, until Deva kicked her where she was shot.

Are you saying you're angry that Wonder Woman didn't immediately collapse? That's what it looks like.

Diana's tougher than you're giving her credit for. She has a gaping wound, but unless it's a head wound, someone like her is unlikely to collapse from something like that, so quickly.

As if it matters. Weaker WW. invalid.

Best of luck with that.

[fangirl101]

Yes. You posted the scans. They're clear as day. Blood flowing out of the wound, over her hand and to the ground.
 
Are you saying you're angry that Wonder Woman didn't immediately collapse? That's what it looks like.

Diana's tougher than you're giving her credit for. She has a gaping wound, but unless it's a head wound, someone like her is unlikely to collapse from something like that, so quickly.

Best of luck with that.

Because you don't like that she was weaker? You know I don't give two fucks. Shit, I don't give one fuck what luck, you wish me the best with.

[fangirl101]

Reading the Deva Story. Since I loathed the character, I never read them, She was stronger and faster than Diana. And she had the literal power to know how to kill any living thing. She also reinjures Diana in the same spot she kicked, later on. Giving validity to my earlier statement that she purposely reinjured that area. Damn WW haters on this board are hillarious.

[Jonathanos]

No. She wasn't bleeding to death until AFTER the attacks from Deva. The first attack, she takes, and then she kicks Deva's ass. Deva says, I knew you wouldn't hit a child. Then she kicks Diana right where the bullet went. Fade to Diana doubling over in pain. It was the COMBINATION of events, on a WEAKER Diana, that lead to her nearly bleeding to death.

A person doesn't bleed to death instantly.  Wonder Woman is bleeding profusely after the gunshot.  Getting kicked there hurt like hell and made Wonder Woman drop to her knees. 

She doesn't kick Deva's ass at all.  After shooting her, Deva goads her into attacking then feigns defeat so Wonder Woman will use the lasso on her.  It's right there in the scans you posted.  Read them.



She used the connection through the lasso to learn everything about Wonder Woman and, revealed a couple of issues later, to cloud Diana's mind.

[fangirl101]

A person doesn't bleed to death instantly.  Wonder Woman is bleeding profusely after the gunshot.  Getting kicked there hurt like hell and made Wonder Woman drop to her knees. 

She doesn't kick Deva's ass at all.  After shooting her, Deva goads her into attacking then feigns defeat so Wonder Woman will use the lasso on her.  It's right there in the scans you posted.  Read them.



She used the connection through the lasso to learn everything about Wonder Woman and, revealed a couple of issues later, to cloud Diana's mind.

I guess you are forgetting the part where DEVA had the power to know how to kill any living thing. She knew exactly where to shoot. And then how to keep REINJURING Diana in the same fucking spot over and over. Not that it matters. It was a lessor WW. It's like using a the gas station koing Superman'. Doesn't count. Weaker Superman.

[fangirl101]

WW was about to hurl an entire train into the sun, Until Deva Cut the chain. I'm almost sure, that not many top tiers can pull that off. I think she's stronger than MM by a fair amount.

[Tony XerxēsTWD Stark]

Isn't the spot to shoot Wonder Woman with a gun "anywhere on her body"?

[Ghost of glutton, son.]

Diana is such a fragile flower for a top tier. 

Hahahaha.

[Jonathanos]

I guess you are forgetting the part where DEVA had the power to know how to kill any living thing. She knew exactly where to shoot. And then how to keep REINJURING Diana in the same fucking spot over and over. Not that it matters. It was a lessor WW. It's like using a the gas station koing Superman'. Doesn't count. Weaker Superman.

I'm not forgetting Deva's power.  It simply has no bearing on what happened.

Wonder Woman continued blocking and dodging bullets after the Clayface encounter.

[Commander]

Basic thing I'm getting in here  is "The bullet did jack to Wonder Woman until the kick came."

[Jonathanos]

Basic thing I'm getting in here  is "The bullet did jack to Wonder Woman until the kick came."

Yep.  Despite the copious amount of blood, she's okay until Deva kicked her.

In WW #211, Wonder Woman collapses.  Now a rational person would think that her collapse is due to having had a sword run through her in the previous issue.  But according to fangirl's argument, that can't be the case.  After all, Diana continued to fight and didn't collapse until she reached the Themysciran embassy.

Conclusion: She wasn't critically injured until she rode the horse.

[Commander]

Ugh... I'm seeing another out-of-this-world reply

Where's fanboy now?

[skyrider]

so she cant breath underwater or in space, bullets hurt her. great to know

[Jonathanos]

Of course she can "breath" underwater and in space.  She lives on an island!

[..:skeletor:..]

LMAO...that's "pages and pages"? It's all of what, 3?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Rage.Of.Olympus]

Fangirl is going to have a mental breakdown soon.

[fangirl101]

Fangirl is going to have a mental breakdown soon.

Shut up. Thor collapsed from a bullet. Diana didn't collapse until after she'd been kicked. And even then, she still didn't black out. She calls the wound a flesh wound later on in the same story.

Here are a bunch of mercs shooting Diana in the back with machine guns. She's caused some pain but isn't bleeding to death. So yeah, Her upgrades did do something. So fuck you. No breakdown Thor fag.

[Commander]

Are you telling us that the 2nd panel is a result of gunfire??

[Ghost of glutton, son.]

Are you telling us that the 2nd panel is a result of gunfire??

I sense another Wonder lie about to be exposed.

[fangirl101]

I sense another Wonder lie about to be exposed.

What Wonder lie? It's obvious that they shot her in the back, She turns in anger and deflects more bullets.

[Commander]

I'm asking you, are you sure that the 2nd panel (WW's reaction) was due to gunfire??

This is the problem with you. You only look at what you want to see and ignore the rest of what has happened.

Tip: Go to page 19 (Taken from JLA #32).

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